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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,576 Member
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    tomteboda wrote: »
    I went and looked at the details of that Nielson report. "Screen time" was not limited to off-work time, it included time on the internet at work. It also oddly included all time listening to radio no matter where you go. So today I had a total of 40 minutes commuting. The radio was on the entire time. Therefore, that was 40 minutes of "screen time" according to this study. Radio alone accounted for more than 20% of the time Americans spent consuming media. They also included time listening to online radio and music through your PC, television or smartphone. All of this makes the study make a whole lot more sense and be dramatically less alarming.

    Overall they said the "average time" spent watching TV or movies or browsing the internet was about 4.3 hours a day, not 7, which was really the "time spent consuming media in all its forms", and even that wasn't exclusive use of media (whole attention). Talk about misleading headlines.

    In fact, if you walk listening to a radio or streaming audio, or even listening to mp3s on your cell phone; or work out in a gym with a TV or radio on, congratulations, 100% of that time was "screen time" the way this silly news article was written.

    Including radio/music would definitely sever any link between screen time and lack of exercise. I suppose the statistic would still have some value but it would say nothing about time for exercise.
  • MsHarryWinston
    MsHarryWinston Posts: 1,027 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    tomteboda wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.

    I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.

    My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.

    It's all about prioritization.

    The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/

    Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.

    How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.

    Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.

    People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.

    I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.

    And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.

    LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.

    My life isn't sad.

    *blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
    Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
    Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol

    I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.

    Hahaha yes there is sex but no it's not soft core porn. It's wonderfully complex, but I also read the books long before the tv show came out. But yeah, if you're not into historical fantasy then it's understandable it wouldn't be your thing. Like, I'm not a RealHousewives, or Kardashians type person so I've never watched those shows because I'm not into that kind of drama, but I know they're insanely popular, just not for me. *shrug*

    I'm with you on all of this. Its also nice to have a show that others watch to talk about, since common shows are less common now than they used to be. (Also agree on Housewives, etc., except even though they are popular no one I know watches them -- they do watch some other shows I haven't gotten to yet, like Fargo and Saul).

    Game of Thrones is what, 10 hours of a year, so I can't imagine it is anyone's reason for not exercising, although it personally would not be my choice for treadmill watching! ;-) We always have a Game of Thrones themed meal at least once during a season too -- there's a restaurant here that does one that I'd like to go to this coming year if they redo it, but I'm a geek. I read all the books on the L when going to work, so did it by multitasking!

    I'm really not sure what the point is of the "Americans have a lot of screen time so have time to exercise." I haven't noticed one person in this discussion, not one, claiming that he or she lacks time to exercise the recommended amount per week. Didn't it start because someone said her TDEE was reasonably high for her size and then what struck me as judgy comments were made about the time she must spend on exercise.

    That's so cool about the meal! For the show premier my husband and I made this huge date night of it and we cooked meat and potatoes (hearty food) and made proper mulled wine, and found chalices to drink it in while we watched episode 1. It was awesome, lol. When we first started dating he said to me "These are my favorite books so you have to read these books otherwise we are breaking up." Hahaha so I read them and ended up loving them. We are both HUGE book nerds so I found the threat hilarious. I haven't convinced him to read Outlander yet but he's agreed to watch the tv show.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    tomteboda wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.

    I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.

    My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.

    It's all about prioritization.

    The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/

    Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.

    How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.

    Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.

    People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.

    I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.

    And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.

    LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.

    My life isn't sad.

    *blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
    Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
    Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol

    I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.

    Hahaha yes there is sex but no it's not soft core porn. It's wonderfully complex, but I also read the books long before the tv show came out. But yeah, if you're not into historical fantasy then it's understandable it wouldn't be your thing. Like, I'm not a RealHousewives, or Kardashians type person so I've never watched those shows because I'm not into that kind of drama, but I know they're insanely popular, just not for me. *shrug*

    I'm with you on all of this. Its also nice to have a show that others watch to talk about, since common shows are less common now than they used to be. (Also agree on Housewives, etc., except even though they are popular no one I know watches them -- they do watch some other shows I haven't gotten to yet, like Fargo and Saul).

    Game of Thrones is what, 10 hours of a year, so I can't imagine it is anyone's reason for not exercising, although it personally would not be my choice for treadmill watching! ;-) We always have a Game of Thrones themed meal at least once during a season too -- there's a restaurant here that does one that I'd like to go to this coming year if they redo it, but I'm a geek. I read all the books on the L when going to work, so did it by multitasking!

    I'm really not sure what the point is of the "Americans have a lot of screen time so have time to exercise." I haven't noticed one person in this discussion, not one, claiming that he or she lacks time to exercise the recommended amount per week. Didn't it start because someone said her TDEE was reasonably high for her size and then what struck me as judgy comments were made about the time she must spend on exercise.

    That's so cool about the meal! For the show premier my husband and I made this huge date night of it and we cooked meat and potatoes (hearty food) and made proper mulled wine, and found chalices to drink it in while we watched episode 1. It was awesome, lol. When we first started dating he said to me "These are my favorite books so you have to read these books otherwise we are breaking up." Hahaha so I read them and ended up loving them. We are both HUGE book nerds so I found the threat hilarious. I haven't convinced him to read Outlander yet but he's agreed to watch the tv show.

    That sounds fun! Hope he likes Outlander too.
  • xmichaelyx
    xmichaelyx Posts: 883 Member
    edited May 2017
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    tomteboda wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.

    I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.

    My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.

    It's all about prioritization.

    The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/

    Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.

    How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.

    Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.

    People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.

    I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.

    And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.

    LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.

    My life isn't sad.

    *blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
    Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
    Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol

    I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.

    The books were really fantastic, but there are over 1000 characters! I've never bothered with the series because so much has to be cut out that it doesn't seem worth it.

    More on topic:

    I don't get how people can commute for a long time, sit at a desk all day, and NOT work out. Lifting after working all day is the key to sanity and not feeling like crap.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    CSARdiver wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    tomteboda wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.

    I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.

    My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.

    It's all about prioritization.

    The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/

    Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.

    How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.

    Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.

    People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.

    I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.

    And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.

    LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.

    My life isn't sad.

    *blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
    Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
    Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol

    I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.

    Hahaha yes there is sex but no it's not soft core porn. It's wonderfully complex, but I also read the books long before the tv show came out. But yeah, if you're not into historical fantasy then it's understandable it wouldn't be your thing. Like, I'm not a RealHousewives, or Kardashians type person so I've never watched those shows because I'm not into that kind of drama, but I know they're insanely popular, just not for me. *shrug*

    I'm with you on all of this. Its also nice to have a show that others watch to talk about, since common shows are less common now than they used to be. (Also agree on Housewives, etc., except even though they are popular no one I know watches them -- they do watch some other shows I haven't gotten to yet, like Fargo and Saul).

    Game of Thrones is what, 10 hours of a year, so I can't imagine it is anyone's reason for not exercising, although it personally would not be my choice for treadmill watching! ;-) We always have a Game of Thrones themed meal at least once during a season too -- there's a restaurant here that does one that I'd like to go to this coming year if they redo it, but I'm a geek. I read all the books on the L when going to work, so did it by multitasking!

    I'm really not sure what the point is of the "Americans have a lot of screen time so have time to exercise." I haven't noticed one person in this discussion, not one, claiming that he or she lacks time to exercise the recommended amount per week. Didn't it start because someone said her TDEE was reasonably high for her size and then what struck me as judgy comments were made about the time she must spend on exercise.

    Just hoping there's no Red Wedding themed meals...although that could be interesting. Steak tartare, blood pudding, blood orange mojitos...

    Heh.

    Actually, here's one of the restaurant ones: https://www.eater.com/2015/4/30/8520477/elizabeth-chicago-menu-game-thrones-video

    I couldn't do a Red Wedding one, since I knew it was coming, but not everyone did!
  • Packerjohn
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    tomteboda wrote: »
    @Packerjohn that time was nor exclusive, though. Having the tv on in the morning while getting the kids ready for school, packing lunches, eating breakfast etc counts. Even though most wouldn't be vegged out on the couch.

    It's fine if you question the time in the analysis. My point is, IMO, Americans are spending a significant amount of time in front of a screen doing nothing other that watching it (or interacting with it via a keyboard, game controller, etc).

    Also IMO, the vast majority of people who say they don't have 30 minutes for exercise a day could carve that out of their exclusive screen time.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?

    Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.

    My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?

    Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.

    My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.

    You are arguing against things that no one here said. It gives the impression that you are lambasting us for things that were not said and did not read the discussion. There are 6 pages, but not of people saying "oh, I can't get in 30 minutes of exercise a day."
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,576 Member
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?

    Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.

    My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.

    This is certainly true. I do find it amusing that you never seen anyone complain that people spend too much time reading when they could be exercising.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,970 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?

    Plenty of people have said they "don't have time" to exercise. I don't know if any of them said exactly how much time they don't have.
  • moonstroller
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    I found I had plenty of time to watch TV, eat pizza, chips, and drink beer. I just switched that time to working out, and it's still less time than I spent watching TV.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?

    Plenty of people have said they "don't have time" to exercise. I don't know if any of them said exactly how much time they don't have.

    I actually don't think so. One poster was saying she didn't have time to exercise more than 60-90 minutes a day. I don't think one person said "no time to exercise" or "no time to do 30 minutes a day."
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    Here's the post that started this:
    Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?

    The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.

    Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.

    Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
  • kshama2001
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    Peter Dinklage sums up 'Game of Thrones' in under a minute

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyJny1A-_I
  • aylajane
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    Maxematics wrote: »
    savithny wrote: »
    Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.

    But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?

    Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?

    I'm 5'3" and about 120 pounds and I regularly burn 2200-2300 calories a day. And that's being over 40 with a desk job.

    Yep - 5'5, 135 pounds, size 6... can eat 2500 regularly and maintain... at 45 years old. MUSCLE is the key to a happy life eating :)