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Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?1 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.2 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
I'm 5'3" and about 120 pounds and I regularly burn 2200-2300 calories a day. And that's being over 40 with a desk job.7 -
kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.18 -
Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?0 -
Mouse_Potato wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
I'm 5'3" and about 120 pounds and I regularly burn 2200-2300 calories a day. And that's being over 40 with a desk job.
Are you including BMR in that number? and I think I just found some ones1 -
Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
Yay for exercise calories!
At 5'2", @WinoGelato is an inch shorter than you and maintains on 2200 calories because she's active. I find her story about how she gradually increased her activity level and was able to lose weight without deprivation inspirational.14 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.12 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
Yay for exercise calories!
At 5'2", @WinoGelato is an inch shorter than you and maintains on 2200 calories because she's active. I find her story about how she gradually increased her activity level and was able to lose weight without deprivation inspirational.
I'm 4'11" and I maintain on 2000 a day, she is inspiring.3 -
Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.
Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise. In fact, I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.
Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?6 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.
Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise. In fact, I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.
Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
I work full time and have a busy life but I make the time. Most people find the time to watch TV or sit at their computers/on their phone for hours a day but claim not to have time to exercise. I also said I walk around 4mph. My average is slightly over that. I don't walk to and from work every day though.
Yes, I decided to give ballpark numbers and not exact amounts; my apologies. Some days my workouts are only 45 minutes. The distance from work is also a slight bit under 5 miles but it's easier to round.
Anyway, I definitely don't think my calorie burn and activity level are the average for my size. Most people aren't as active and that's okay. They drive everywhere and have desk jobs. They can lose their weight on 1200 to 1500. I prefer an active lifestyle. I'm no longer in the weight loss phase, rather, I'm trying not to be. However, in comparison to a man who is over 6 feet and over 200 pounds, as the OP is, my calorie burn is most likely less, which is why I found it odd that the OP isn't losing on that amount.15 -
Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.
Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise. In fact, I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.
Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
I work full time and have a busy life but I make the time. Most people find the time to watch TV or sit at their computers/on their phone for hours a day but claim not to have time to exercise. I also said I walk around 4mph. My average is slightly over that. I don't walk to and from work every day though.
Yes, I decided to give ballpark numbers and not exact amounts; my apologies. Some days my workouts are only 45 minutes. The distance from work is also a slight bit under 5 miles but it's easier to round.
Anyway, I definitely don't think my calorie burn and activity level are the average for my size. Most people aren't as active and that's okay. They drive everywhere and have desk jobs. They can lose their weight on 1200 to 1500. I prefer an active lifestyle. I'm no longer in the weight loss phase, rather, I'm trying not to be. However, in comparison to a man who is over 6 feet and over 200 pounds, as the OP is, my calorie burn is most likely less, which is why I found it odd that the OP isn't losing on that amount.
Do you think that anyone who spends less than three hours a day on exercise is simply lazy and sitting around doing nothing but watching television? That anyone who does less than you do is inactive or doesn't have an active lifestyle?
You really seem to be implying that anyone who doesn't spend as much time as you do exercising is simply lazily watching television all day.1 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.
Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise. In fact, I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.
Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
I work full time and have a busy life but I make the time. Most people find the time to watch TV or sit at their computers/on their phone for hours a day but claim not to have time to exercise. I also said I walk around 4mph. My average is slightly over that. I don't walk to and from work every day though.
Yes, I decided to give ballpark numbers and not exact amounts; my apologies. Some days my workouts are only 45 minutes. The distance from work is also a slight bit under 5 miles but it's easier to round.
Anyway, I definitely don't think my calorie burn and activity level are the average for my size. Most people aren't as active and that's okay. They drive everywhere and have desk jobs. They can lose their weight on 1200 to 1500. I prefer an active lifestyle. I'm no longer in the weight loss phase, rather, I'm trying not to be. However, in comparison to a man who is over 6 feet and over 200 pounds, as the OP is, my calorie burn is most likely less, which is why I found it odd that the OP isn't losing on that amount.
Do you think that anyone who spends less than three hours a day on exercise is simply lazy and sitting around doing nothing but watching television? That anyone who does less than you do is inactive or doesn't have an active lifestyle?
You really seem to be implying that anyone who doesn't spend as much time as you do exercising is simply lazily watching television all day.
No, I don't and I wasn't intending to imply such. My sister has MS and has no choice but to live a sedentary lifestyle so I don't automatically assume that people who are less active are lazy. The reason I framed my responses as such is because from your very first reply to me, you seemed to be trying to call me out on BS for my TDEE. I could be wrong in my interpretation of that though.
In further posts you seemed to want to delve more into my routine. I gave you approximations and you tried to pick them apart. First you stated that most people don't have time because they work full time, which could be taken as you implying I must not do so. That's why I commented back about those who claim they have no time but honestly just don't make the time. Let's face it, many people don't make exercise a priority.
I also said that I realize most people aren't as active and that's okay. I don't know how that implies I think anyone else is lazy or inactive or that anyone who does less than me isn't active. For as active as I am, there are many people twice as active as I am. For me, the walks I take aren't exercise. Sure I'm burning calories but I do it because I enjoy it, not because I consider it part of a three hour exercise routine. Walking is actually my time to destress after a hard day. I've stated several times that I don't even walk to and from work every day either.
I don't know what it was about my initial post that seemed to hit a sore spot for you but the only reason I mentioned losing on 2000 calories at my size was to give the OP some perspective that 2000 should be enough for him to lose given his stats. I didn't expect to derail his topic. My apologies, OP.40 -
Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
She walks up to 20,000 steps and exercises up to an hour per day.
Thank you for this! Yes, that's what I usually do. I feel like people really underestimate the power of being active. They see exercise calories as a bad thing and think they have to eat so little to maintain their weight.
How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?
Well, the hour of exercise, I do that in the morning before work. I walk around 4 miles per hour and usually walk the 5 miles to and from work every day so that's another 2 hours. If I don't walk to and from work I still walk there from the train station that's 2 miles away. I'm also on my feet at work all day. I have a TDEE of 2400 calories on average.
Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise. In fact, I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.
Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
I work full time and have a busy life but I make the time. Most people find the time to watch TV or sit at their computers/on their phone for hours a day but claim not to have time to exercise. I also said I walk around 4mph. My average is slightly over that. I don't walk to and from work every day though.
Yes, I decided to give ballpark numbers and not exact amounts; my apologies. Some days my workouts are only 45 minutes. The distance from work is also a slight bit under 5 miles but it's easier to round.
Anyway, I definitely don't think my calorie burn and activity level are the average for my size. Most people aren't as active and that's okay. They drive everywhere and have desk jobs. They can lose their weight on 1200 to 1500. I prefer an active lifestyle. I'm no longer in the weight loss phase, rather, I'm trying not to be. However, in comparison to a man who is over 6 feet and over 200 pounds, as the OP is, my calorie burn is most likely less, which is why I found it odd that the OP isn't losing on that amount.
Do you think that anyone who spends less than three hours a day on exercise is simply lazy and sitting around doing nothing but watching television? That anyone who does less than you do is inactive or doesn't have an active lifestyle?
You really seem to be implying that anyone who doesn't spend as much time as you do exercising is simply lazily watching television all day.
No, I don't and I wasn't intending to imply such. My sister has MS and has no choice but to live a sedentary lifestyle so I don't automatically assume that people who are less active are lazy. The reason I framed my responses as such is because from your very first reply to me, you seemed to be trying to call me out on BS for my TDEE. I could be wrong in my interpretation of that though.
In further posts you seemed to want to delve more into my routine. I gave you approximations and you tried to pick them apart. First you stated that most people don't have time because they work full time, which could be taken as you implying I must not do so. That's why I commented back about those who claim they have no time but honestly just don't make the time. Let's face it, many people don't make exercise a priority.
I also said that I realize most people aren't as active and that's okay. I don't know how that implies I think anyone else is lazy or inactive or that anyone who does less than me isn't active. For as active as I am, there are many people twice as active as I am. For me, the walks I take aren't exercise. Sure I'm burning calories but I do it because I enjoy it, not because I consider it part of a three hour exercise routine. Walking is actually my time to destress after a hard day. I've stated several times that I don't even walk to and from work every day either.
I don't know what it was about my initial post that seemed to hit a sore spot for you but the only reason I mentioned losing on 2000 calories at my size was to give the OP some perspective that 2000 should be enough for him to lose given his stats. I didn't expect to derail his topic. My apologies, OP.
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
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Oh how I wish I had 3 free hours a day to exercise, the food I'd eat9
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
It didn't seem at all to me @Maxematics was judging anyone. They were just talking about their choices. It does seem as though you're picking apart their posts and lifestyle because you're frustrated about yours. Sorry you don't have as much free time as you wish, but there's no reason to take that out on someone else.
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
It didn't seem at all to me @Maxematics was judging anyone. They were just talking about their choices. It does seem as though you're picking apart their posts and lifestyle because you're frustrated about yours. Sorry you don't have as much free time as you wish, but there's no reason to take that out on someone else.
Thanks. I don't get the free time comments either. I've stated so many times that I don't walk to and from work every day yet it's emphasized that I exercise for three hours every day when I don't. I do an hour workout five days a week. My steps come from longer walks and day to day life. I have a full time job in which I'm on my feet most of the day, I have family members to take care of, errands to run daily, housework to do. All of this is part of one's activity level, yet I'm perceived to have this crazy amount of free time because I burn off more calories than the average person my size due to my lifestyle and therefore have a higher calorie allowance. I honestly don't understand the hostility.24 -
Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
It didn't seem at all to me @Maxematics was judging anyone. They were just talking about their choices. It does seem as though you're picking apart their posts and lifestyle because you're frustrated about yours. Sorry you don't have as much free time as you wish, but there's no reason to take that out on someone else.
Thanks. I don't get the free time comments either. I've stated so many times that I don't walk to and from work every day yet it's emphasized that I exercise for three hours every day when I don't. I do an hour workout five days a week. My steps come from longer walks and day to day life. I have a full time job in which I'm on my feet most of the day, I have family members to take care of, errands to run daily, housework to do. All of this is part of one's activity level, yet I'm perceived to have this crazy amount of free time because I burn off more calories than the average person my size due to my lifestyle and therefore have a higher calorie allowance. I honestly don't understand the hostility.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I have a full time job and two toddlers. Free time is certainly not something I have a lot of. I still average just under 20,000 steps/day. Making the time to do that is a choice (and, to some degree, the result of a semi-active job and happenstance like my parking spot being clear across campus from my office). I prioritize taking my kids to the park. My husband and I like to go for walks. I chase kids a lot.
Not everyone can (or even wants to) make those choices, but there's no need to attack those who can.20 -
SusanMFindlay wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
It didn't seem at all to me @Maxematics was judging anyone. They were just talking about their choices. It does seem as though you're picking apart their posts and lifestyle because you're frustrated about yours. Sorry you don't have as much free time as you wish, but there's no reason to take that out on someone else.
Thanks. I don't get the free time comments either. I've stated so many times that I don't walk to and from work every day yet it's emphasized that I exercise for three hours every day when I don't. I do an hour workout five days a week. My steps come from longer walks and day to day life. I have a full time job in which I'm on my feet most of the day, I have family members to take care of, errands to run daily, housework to do. All of this is part of one's activity level, yet I'm perceived to have this crazy amount of free time because I burn off more calories than the average person my size due to my lifestyle and therefore have a higher calorie allowance. I honestly don't understand the hostility.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I have a full time job and two toddlers. Free time is certainly not something I have a lot of. I still average just under 20,000 steps/day. Making the time to do that is a choice (and, to some degree, the result of a semi-active job and happenstance like my parking spot being clear across campus from my office). I prioritize taking my kids to the park. My husband and I like to go for walks. I chase kids a lot.
Not everyone can (or even wants to) make those choices, but there's no need to attack those who can.
People are just jealous. I'm one of those people who has free time because I'm a SAHM actually, and my kids are in school... but you know what... all the other stay at home parents I know still don't get as many steps as I do, because they just can't be bothered. So sure, I do have the time, but I'm not looking down on people who don't, and I'm not going to be felt bad either because I do make the choice every day to use that time to be active instead of watching TV on the couch - and believe me... I don't know many people who choose to do that.
OP, I'm not sure how long you've been dieting but I'd agree with dropping 100 calories a day and see from there. Loose skin really does change things, you could have 5 lbs of it, and that would impact your TDEE estimations.7 -
Maxematics wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Good to know that you aren't judging by defining people who exercise one or two hours each day as not having active lives, and that you haven made any assumption that they don't enjoy exercise either.
I'd love to have as much free time to do the activities I love as you have to do yours. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to come first. I'll be very happy if after all the chores are done today, I get two hours to go cycling. Because that's more free time than I usually get.
It didn't seem at all to me @Maxematics was judging anyone. They were just talking about their choices. It does seem as though you're picking apart their posts and lifestyle because you're frustrated about yours. Sorry you don't have as much free time as you wish, but there's no reason to take that out on someone else.
Thanks. I don't get the free time comments either. I've stated so many times that I don't walk to and from work every day yet it's emphasized that I exercise for three hours every day when I don't. I do an hour workout five days a week. My steps come from longer walks and day to day life. I have a full time job in which I'm on my feet most of the day, I have family members to take care of, errands to run daily, housework to do. All of this is part of one's activity level, yet I'm perceived to have this crazy amount of free time because I burn off more calories than the average person my size due to my lifestyle and therefore have a higher calorie allowance. I honestly don't understand the hostility.
I commute an hour to work each day, driving. I think a lot of people put in that kind of time. If I could walk to work in that time I would definitely do it. You've found a way to incorporate activity into your daily life. I'm jealous that you can do that, I don't resent the fact that you do. Yay you!16
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