June 2017 Running Challenge
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@PastorVincent I don't know what you are talking about, I always breath two in two out....except when I don't. Honestly I'm usually 3 in 2 out but it's not like I get really bored and start counting my breathing patterns or anything.
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Hmm. I like to breathe in on left foot, out right out left, or maybe it's right in, left out, right out... Crap. I just know I'm doing it wrong.1
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@MobyCarp you rock! I really should have gotten the WWMCD? on the back of my Embrace the Suck shirt!
The great thing about the course for my upcoming 5k is it's basically a route I run all the time. It's a state park 15 min from me that is a big lake, with a nice, paved path all the way around it, which is almost exactly 3 miles long. Tons of runners in my area go there for their training, because there's also an outer ring road with more elevation gain, so there are different options for how much distance and how many hills you want. It's my go-to location for when I'm adding distance to my long runs, and I don't want hills too, lol.
And it's true, the course isn't 100% perfectly flat. But I think my familiarity and comfort with the location will really help in this instance. It's also a women-only race, with self-placing corrals, and they're hoping to reach 1,000 participants, though some of those will be doing the walk, not the run, so it shouldn't be too difficult to deal with initial crowding. We'll see what happens!
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Sometimes, in the middle of the day, you come to a terribly obvious conclusion that you already KNEW, but were letting pride get in the way of..... Today's example courtesy of MNLittleFinn and his bruised ego:
I set my Garmin back to alerting me whenever I am out of z2. I will use this while I am road running, as I am planning on my trail runs to be "hard" days anyway, with all the elevation. I came to this conclusion for two *kitten* obvious reasons:
1: I've been running too hard on ALL of my runs, and need to get back to having more time spent in E, I'll still be too high (probably), because I'm always out of E average on trail for some reason. Hopefully though, this way I'll at least control for it and get my E time back to a more reasonable range.
2: This one should have been obvious too. Because I run too fast, I'm spending LESS TIME ON FEET! Since I'm trying to transition to Trail/ultra training, I need to spend MORE time running, not LESS... Duh!
Looking at cut off times for my upcoming "races" I have it in quotes because I'll be running 2/3 just for fun/experience/training.
Eugene Curnow Marathon: 22 min/mile
Ely Marathon: 18 min/mile
Wild Duluth: 17 min/mile
Now, this is overall times and, obviously, aid station stops on the 2 trail races will add time, but there are only 7 and 8 aid stations respectively.
So Assuming I even spend 5 minutes at each (that would be a LOT) That maxes out at 40 minutes, which takes 1:15 per mile off of my allowable average pace on the ultra, dropping it to 14:45/mile I'd need to move, which, oddly enough, is what the McMillan Calculator gave me for a pace (Using a horribly incompatible 5 mile time, but hey, it's my delusions, right?).......
.... So, what's all that saying? Not much to you guys, but it says to me: STOP WORRYING ABOUT YOUR RUN TIMES AND GET TIME ON FEET YOU NEED A DIFFERENT MINDSET YOU DOLT!
Sorry for the insane rambling.... it was, once again, more stream of thought typing...3 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
06/01/17 :::: 2.4 :::: 2.4
06/02/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 2.4
06/03/17 :::: 8.4 :::: 10.7
06/04/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 13.9
06/05/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 17.2
06/06/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 20.7
06/07/17 :::: 5.0 :::: 25.7
06/08/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 25.7
06/09/17 :::: 3.6 :::: 29.3
06/10/17 :::: 7.8 :::: 37.0
06/11/17 :::: 7.5 :::: 44.5
06/12/17 :::: 2.8 :::: 47.4
06/13/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 51.4
06/14/17 :::: 2.6 :::: 53.9
06/15/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 57.2
06/16/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 57.2
06/17/17 :::: 8.5 :::: 65.7
06/18/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 69.0
06/19/17 :::: 3.4 :::: 72.4
06/20/17 :::: 5.6 :::: 77.9
06/21/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 80.9
06/22/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 80.9
06/23/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 84.0
06/24/17 :::: 3.2 :::: 87.1
06/25/17 :::: 8.0 :::: 95.2
06/26/17 :::: 2.5 :::: 97.7
06/27/17 :::: 4.9 :::: 102.5
06/28/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 105.6
06/29/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 108.7
Goal = 100 miles
And one more day of "better run while the running is good" - so this will probably be my last June run and I'll take my rest day tomorrow. Which puts me at 108.7 out of my goal of 100! Woohoo! This is actually my second highest month as last August during my summer training for my HM I peaked at 110 miles. Which means this training cycle I should be in good shape to top that by a bit.
Not sure how I'll set my July goal. I'll have to do some calculation as I will have some travel in there (to the always hot and humid midwest).
Good luck finishing up your month everyone!
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I'm back home (early) after that issue with my back-packing trip in Glacier National Park. I don't plan to run today or tomorrow... I'm going to try to rest up and figure out what is next. I'm not sure whether it's another half marathon or trying to train for a full marathon. The first thing is to start eating better again, but not sure what after that.
Also, here is a panorama pic from the Glacier National Park Half Marathon course:
6/1 - 5.20 miles (also starting a diet change to increase carbs slightly)
6/2 - rest
6/3 - 9.00 painful and slow miles in sweltering heat with the sun beating down
6/4 - rest
6/5 - 5.25 miles not as hot as Sat., but still hot (need to stop making excuses for slow pace)
6/6 - 5.37 miles - early am, so started out dark, but nice and cool out
6/7 - 5.00 miles (early am, nice and cool again... had to add some distance to get up to the full 5 miles)
6/8 - 13.18 miles (started out 3am and tired along with GI distress, terrible pace but stuck with it - improved as I got to the last few miles - average total pace 11:13)
6/9 - rest (backpacking in evening, not counting non-running miles)
6/10 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/11 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/12 - 6.60 miles, fairly warm, totally new area while traveling for work, slow average pace
6/13 - 6.93 miles, still warm, new area (paved trails mostly today), slow - need to work on that speed
6/14 - 6.12 miles, not quite as warm, but 74% humidity still was tough - still slow
6/15 - rest
6/16 - rest
6/17 - 14.30 miles... hot, slow pace. Stopped and re-filled my water bottle 3 times.
6/18 - rest
6/19 - 6.19 miles - plan was for 7 miles, but got started late because I woke up with low BG (46 mg/dl). Still could have done 7 miles, but ended early because the stuff I ate for the low BG was causing some issues.
6/20 - 6.83 miles. Good pacing, so almost no walking. Still slower than I want, but at least kept pace more even.
6/21 - Unplanned rest day. Plan was for 7 miles on a traveling (driving) day. Fell behind on driving schedule and not feeling well anyway. Stomach upset due to poor nutrition on the road and dehydration (worsened by sickness).
6/22 - 3.07 miles. Got up before sunrise and banged out some miles on the dreadmill. Not enough, so I'm still behind schedule a bit. I need about 2 more miles + the HM on Sat. to reach goal (no running after the HM because I'll be backpacking).
6/22B - 3.03 miles on a trail. Not high quality miles... still nutritional issues.
6/23 - Rest
6/24 - Glacier National Park Half Marathon (2:10:07)
6/25 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park 18.2 miles 3K+ elevation up, 3K+ elevation down)
6/26 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, 11.3 miles)
6/27 - Rest
6/28 - Rest
6/29 - Rest
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@midwesterner85 I kind if had to chuckle at your 2 "rest" days after your HM.... backpacking is hard work!1
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@MNLittleFinn No doubt... the first day was a very long and tough day because of the distance and elevation - and a few snow fields were not so bad to be terribly more difficult hiking, but at 7,600 ft. and snow reflecting sun, I got a bit of a burn despite wearing sunscreen. On the 2nd day, it was especially difficult because I was so dehydrated and struggling to inconveniently get water wherever I could through my backup Life Straw.
TMI on the dehydration:On that 2nd day where I decided to hike out early to the nearest trailhead, I was sweating so much that I lost everything I was drinking through sweat. I only urinated once all day. In fact, in the evening I finally got back to my car and went out to a convenience store where I bought 2L of water and 1L of diet soda. I drank all of the water and 1/2 of the soda that evening and yet I still wasn't able to pee until the next morning.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »@MNLittleFinn No doubt... the first day was a very long and tough day because of the distance and elevation - and a few snow fields were not so bad to be terribly more difficult hiking, but at 7,600 ft. and snow reflecting sun, I got a bit of a burn despite wearing sunscreen. On the 2nd day, it was especially difficult because I was so dehydrated and struggling to inconveniently get water wherever I could through my backup Life Straw.
TMI on the dehydration:On that 2nd day where I decided to hike out early to the nearest trailhead, I was sweating so much that I lost everything I was drinking through sweat. I only urinated once all day. In fact, in the evening I finally got back to my car and went out to a convenience store where I bought 2L of water and 1L of diet soda. I drank all of the water and 1/2 of the soda that evening and yet I still wasn't able to pee until the next morning.
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KatieJane83 wrote: »I've heard of all this breathing pattern stuff. I used to think I should look into it and try to figure it out. Then I thought, well, I'm running...and I'm breathing....and I'm not dying...so, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, lol.
I saw a comment the other day that runners should only ever practice breathing through their noses and not through their mouths as you get more oxygen that way. I haven't yet got my head around that.1 -
6/01 - 7.02 miles @ 9:53
6/03 - 10k Race - 50:56 - 8:14
6/03 - 5k Race - 27:06 - 8: 35 (back to back with 10k, 7 mins rest between)
6/05 - 6.51 miles @ 10:31
6/06 - 6.02 miles @ 9:39
6/07 - 6.02 miles @ 9:30
6/08 - 7.01 miles @ 9:37
6/10 - 15 miles @ 10:46
6/11 - 9.01 miles @ 10:36 - 90+ degree weather, ran slow to compensate
6/12 - 8.01 miles @ 10:38 - 90+ degree weather, ran slow to compensate
6/13 - Thinderstorms forced rest day
6/14 - 10 miles @10:50 w/ 894' evevation - very humid could not maintain pace
6/14 - 5 miles @11:06 - second run later in day when not as hot
6/15 - 9 miles @ 10:58
6/16 - 12 miles @ 10:46
6/17 - Rest day
6/18 - forced rest day due to thunderstorms
6/19 - 13 miles - "long run with fast finish"
6/20 - 8 miles - moderate run - Low zone 2
6/21 - 6.55 miles @ 9:43 pace
6/22 - 2.5 miles @ Zone high zone 2, then 4 miles zone 3 and 4
6/23 - Planned rest
6/24 - unplaned rest
6/25 - 19 miles easy pace
6/26 - 6.11 miles recovery pace
6/27 - 6.55 miles @ Avg 9:24 pace
6/28 - 7 miles@ 9:32 pace
6/29 - 6 miles - Threshold pace
Summer Goal: Get my marathon pace below 9 minutes.
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
07/28/17 - Liberty Mile - 1 mile race just to see what a short run really is
10/14/17 - Stop, Drop, and Run - Fireman style obstacle course - 5km
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
So today's run was an accident. I started out okay, but a mile or so in was gettin reports from my Apple Watch that my HR was in zone 3, and breaking into zone 4. Ops. So I did the only sensible thing, I sped up and held that pace best I could. By 53 minutes I was out of steam and had lost like 2+ minutes on my pace. I had only a little be left to reach 6 miles, so pushed through it best I could and then stop and walked for like a 1/2 mile to let my heart rate fall back to normal levels.
Also, I saw this frog. Up on top of a gate. Just chilling. No idea how he got up there.
Was there when I headed out, and still there when I got back. *shrugs* Everyone has to have a place to chill I guess.6 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »6/24 - Glacier National Park Half Marathon (2:10:07)
6/25 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park 18.2 miles 3K+ elevation up, 3K+ elevation down)
6/26 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, 11.3 miles)
@midwesterner85 this is obviously some definition of "rest" I wast not previously aware of.
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Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Jun 04 5.0 5.0 Jun 05 3.6 8.6 Jun 07 3.7 12.3 Jun 09 3.6 15.9 Jun 10 5.1W 21.0 Bare Cove Jun 11 5.1 26.1 Jun 13 3.7 29.8 Jun 14 3.7 33.5 Jun 17 6.2 39.7 Jun 20 3.7 43.4 Jun 24 3.7 47.1 Jun 25 5.1 52.2 Jun 27 3.7 55.9 Jun 29 4.3 60.2
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girlinahat wrote: »I saw a comment the other day that runners should only ever practice breathing through their noses and not through their mouths as you get more oxygen that way. I haven't yet got my head around that.
Yep. "In twice through the nose, out once through the mouth" is what I was taught at one point. Never actually tried it though.0 -
Got hot and humid earlier today (despite being up north) so just did 10 easy miles. Legs felt off at the end and I still had a swim & bike ride left on the schedule for today so I left it at 10 debating just running to/from tomorrow's baseball game after doing an AM 13 mile run to reach my number. I'll play it by ear.
6/1 - 2 miles
6/3 - 3.5 miles
6/4 - 13 miles (1:36 run @ IM Raleigh 70.3)
6/6 - 3 miles
6/7 - 7 miles
6/8 - 3.5 miles (post ride)
6/10 - 10 miles
6/11 - 12 miles
6/12 - 11 miles
6/13 - 9 miles
6/14 - 1 mile (post ride)
6/15 - 10 miles
6/17 - 13 miles
6/18 - 11 miles
6/21 - 3 miles
6/23 - 2 miles
6/25 - 13 miles
6/26 - 5 miles
6/28 - 11.5 miles
6/29 - 10 miles
Total: 153.5 miles
Goal: 180 miles
Remaining: 26.5 miles
2017 Race Schedule:
1/29 - Chilly Willy Duathlon (1:07:48 - 20:05 1st 5K/21:16 2nd 5K - 1st AG, 3rd Amateur)
2/5 - Best Damn Race 1:50 pacer
5/5 - Pittsburgh Marathon (withdrew at mile 16 - 1:32 split @ 13.1)
6/4 - Ironman 70.3 Raleigh - 4:43/1:36 run - Qualified for Ironman 70.3 World Championships
8/25 - Ironman Coeur D'Alene
9/10 - Ironman 70.3 World Championships3 -
@Ohhim I am always amazed at thr numbers you put up, especially combined with the cycling and swimming. With how you train, I can't wait to see how you do at thr IMWC 70.3 in November. You make my numbers loom puny, but that's fine with me, you're a beast!0
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1---5.06
3---6.31
4---6.29
6---3.69 walk
7---4.37
9---3.76
10---6.34
11---5.19
13---3.64
15---3.56
16---mtn bike 4.95 miles
17---2.5 walk
18---2.04 run +7.8 mile bike
20---3.14 walk
21---3.22 walk
23---3.41
24--- 3.26 run, 4.53 hike
25---2.77 run, 4.18 walk
28---3.44
29---2.98
83.59/70
Upcoming races
AIM for the Cure- 5K, virual run
July 8- XTERRA Jurassic Trail Run, 5K. Glen Rose,TX
Dec 2- POOP trail run, Hoping for a half! Norman OK.
Pre-op PR's
1 mile 8:27 5k 24:42. 10k 1:00.52. HM 2:17.28
Post-op Training PR's
1 mile 10:11 5k 34.27 10k 1:20.252 -
@Stoshew71, I really hate it when my uterus falls out.
@MNLittleFinn, wow!
As to breathing, my (80 year old) dad told me to breathe in for two counts, out for two. Oh, yeah, he was Army and ran in the Los Angeles marathon back in the day. Ha, it's all I can do not to trip over my own feet. Count? Who needs it?4 -
My Garmin sometimes annoys me on the treadmill. Like today, it was way behind my actual pace. I did 6.25 miles but Garmin only said 5.8. Silly Garmin.
And with today's run, I have officially reached my goal with room to spare. 102.2 total miles for June. Won't get to run tomorrow, so there's where it will stand.
Not sure what goal to set for July. I'm moving in the middle of the month so there will be a full weekend with no running. Plus my hip continues to bug me from time to time so I'd like to try to rest it a bit. July will definitely be lower mileage than most months.5 -
I saw a comment the other day that runners should only ever practice breathing through their noses and not through their mouths as you get more oxygen that way. I haven't yet got my head around that.
"Mouth breathing is by far the best way to breath while running, largely because it brings in more oxygen than breathing through the nose. It get's better: Forcing air through the nostrils can tighten your jaw and other facial muscles, and tension is never good for running."
From a google search with runnersconnect as the source. Other articles say the same and I also read the same on forums, you should breathe through your mouth.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »I saw a comment the other day that runners should only ever practice breathing through their noses and not through their mouths as you get more oxygen that way. I haven't yet got my head around that.
Yep. "In twice through the nose, out once through the mouth" is what I was taught at one point. Never actually tried it though.
A runner has to be able to breathe out through the nose. Otherwise, it wouldn't be possible to fire a proper snot rocket. And you aren't really a distance runner until you can launch a good snot rocket.8 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
So I have a cousin who knew I was running a lot and told me that he started running.
Great I said. he's a total beginner. Then he started talking about how he is practicing his breathing patterns. I told him, don't worry about the way you breath, just breath natural. And just worry about running at a conversational pace for now. He gave me this dirty look.
Tell him he has to run left right left right, and if he runs right left right left he will serious stunt himself as a runner and to just focus on getting that right for now.
Which one of these is the "lmao" button? Oh wait, we don't have one. But we got this 'woo' button.
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(By the way, you know there is someone lurking and trying to decide if they want to join this Challenge or not and saw the breathing jokes and got offended and we will never know.)
You mean there are still people who can get offended and NOT let people know???
And @PastorVincent - I am extrapolating here, coming from a state that is a bit short on frogs.... but I always got told if you see a turtle on a fence post, you may not know how it got there, but you can be damn sure it had help.... less certain on the frog on a fence thing...4 -
@Stoshew71 ok ok I get it. The plan I found and was going to use may be good for someone else but in your option it is stupid. I have enough speed. I could run a ppl at the pace I want to run the marathon, I need to build endurance. How does one do that, longer runs and more time on feet and miles. I need to build that endurance with a careful plan that does not add too much too fast. Hill work might do me some good and cross training is in addition to running not instead. I'll note a few things. 1. I ran my half last Saturday and my training was goid enough that not only was I happy with my time but it's not a week since and I feel great. 2. I ran 19 miles at a 9:05 pace I could have gone further if I had enough water and I wanted to be foolish. So I think I am in a good place to train for a full marathon for October with the simple goal of sub 4 hours.3
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June Running Totals (miles)
6/1 – 8.25 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/2 – rest day
6/3 – 12.18 solo + group run
6/4 – 7.21 easy with fast finish
6/5 – 7.07 easy
6/6 – 11.05 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/7 – 7.38 group run
6/8 – 5.33 warm up, easy speed work, cool down
6/9 – 3.01 warm up + McMullen Mile
6/10 – 15.01 group run 6 + solo run 9
6/11 – 10.01 hot and sunny
6/12 – 10.06 hot with hills
6/13 – 8.64 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/14 – 10.04 easy
6/15 AM – 5.05 easy with rain
6/15 PM – 4.88 commute, time trial, cheering laps
6/16 – rest day
6/17 – 13.32 paced run for 8 + extra miles
6/18 – 12.03 warm up, race, easy run
6/19 – 9.77 easy
6/20 – 8.38 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/21 – 10.22 easy
6/22 – 0.86 aborted warmup and easy run test
6/23 – rest day
6/24 – 10.62 paced run, easy run test
6/25 – 8.01 easy 60 minutes
6/26 – 8.00 easy
6/27 – 8.38 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/28 – 6.57 group run
6/29 – 11.28 warm up + long intervals
6/30 – rest day
June total – 232.61
Nominal Challenge Goal – 230 miles
Real Goals: Stay healthy. Train toward Rochester Marathon. Run McMullen Mile in under 5:50 on June 9. [Done, 5:44.9] Run Medved 5K to Cure ALS in under 20:00 on June 18. [Done, 19:32]
Today's notes – The assignment on the marathon training plan was 800 at T, 3x2000 at T, and 4 laps stride the straights. It was 79º F (26º C) with 65% relative humidity, with the saving grace that there is plenty of shade in the evening. Of course, I was dripping with sweat after the 2+ mile warmup.
Did the revised drills that focus on injury prevention. Even though the drills are largely focused on preventing high hamstring and groin issues, somehow they got the blood flowing so my Achilles (which had muttered a bit during the warmup) went silent. Then I thought about the workout proper.
Coach had put several alternate workouts on the board. The one labeled as "Boilermaker or marathon" was 20 minutes at E, 20 minutes at T, 30 minutes at E. I thought about it, and decided to swap out the marathon plan workout for this one. My reasoning was, I'm concerned about being kind to my right calf and Achilles till it feels more robust. Even though this workout is more distance than the one in plan + 2 mile cool down, there is less time at T intensity. (I estimate 3x2000 at T would have me doing 24 minutes of T, plus another minute and a half or so for the 800.) I can run the easy on nice soft trails, and the T on the Erie Canal path. Out on the trails I won't be a slave to holding a precise T pace like I would be on the track. And in the back of my mind, I remember that one of the risks for Achilles tendinities is always running the same direction on a track. My Achilles grabbed my attention a week ago, the day after a workout featuring 2x600 at R on the track. I took some extra rest, cut distance, quieted it down . . . and it spoke up again yesterday after Tuesday's 3x600 at R on the track.
Call me paranoid, but I wanted my tempo to be off the track today.
So I ran a bit of road and a lot of trail to get to the Erie Canal path. Finished the easy 20, and ran the path to the next lock, back to the slow pedestrian area, turn around and start back at T level of effort. Finish that 20 minutes, and run easy to a trail I haven't run often, then take that back to where I have to watch traffic to cross Monroe Avenue and pick up a very familiar trail back to base. Got back to base all of 30 seconds early, so I had one loop of the parking lot to get my 70 minute workout in.
Along the way, I got to run some soft trails, and perhaps a half mile of a moderately technical trail with patches of mud that were dry the last time I ran it. Thought about cross training and working different muscle groups than road running, and decided this was good for being kind to my Achilles. I was rewarded with a calf and Achilles that felt no worse after 11.28 total miles than they did when I started, and a totally silent Achilles after I stretched.
Tomorrow is a rest day, so the book is closed on June running miles.
June performance versus goals: Exceeded the mileage goal by a narrow margin. This is pure blind luck; I set that goal by adding the old, higher training plan goals and knocking off a fudge factor for Life Happens or my body saying it didn't like running that many miles. As June turned out, my body *did* say it didn't like running that many miles, and I chopped some out plus revised the targets downward.
Stay healthy, B-. I've had that Achilles niggle, and I'm doing what I understand about it. I hasn't prevented me from running, but it has made me adjust my plans for running. As of today, I am cautiously optimistic that I can train through it, if I'm smart enough about how I train and when I back off. I am happy that I recognized it early and took action to mitigate/prevent damage rather than running through the discomfort.
Train toward Rochester Marathon, A-. The Achilles niggle has got me to take some hills out of my running, and Rochester has a lot of up and down. Other than that, the mileage is going well and the cardio is fine. I could run 20 minutes at T today, and I didn't even think about 3x2000 at T giving me rest breaks. (Coach mentioned it, or it wouldn't have even occurred to me that the rest breaks could be a consideration.)
Run McMullen Mile in under 5:50, check.
Run Medved 5K to Cure ALS in under 20 minutes, check.
Based on HR data and how I felt afterward, I think I *could* have run both McMillan and Medved faster than I did. But I didn't need to run them any faster than I did, and I got through them healthy. I'm happy with that. I don't need to feel like puking at the end of every race.
I'm content with my performance versus goals for June. Now I need to think about July goals.
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 40:04
May 27, 2017 Canandaigua Classic Half Marathon (Canandaigua, NY) finished in 1:33:06
June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 5:44.90, PR for mile
June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) finished in 19:32
July 4, 2017 Firecracker Four Mile (Fairport, NY)
July 15, 2017 Shoreline Half Marathon [1:40 pacer] (Hamlin, NY)
July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY)
September 3, 2017 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY)
September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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cburke8909 wrote: »@Stoshew71 ok ok I get it. The plan I found and was going to use may be good for someone else but in your option it is stupid. I have enough speed. I could run a ppl at the pace I want to run the marathon, I need to build endurance. How does one do that, longer runs and more time on feet and miles. I need to build that endurance with a careful plan that does not add too much too fast. Hill work might do me some good and cross training is in addition to running not instead. I'll note a few things. 1. I ran my half last Saturday and my training was goid enough that not only was I happy with my time but it's not a week since and I feel great. 2. I ran 19 miles at a 9:05 pace I could have gone further if I had enough water and I wanted to be foolish. So I think I am in a good place to train for a full marathon for October with the simple goal of sub 4 hours.
Get the 80/20 book
Though to run my first marathon I used Hal's Novice 1 plan
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51137/Marathon-Novice-1-Training-Program
No idea if it is any good, but got me from struggling 10-mile race to the full marathon with nothing inbetween.2 -
And @PastorVincent - I am extrapolating here, coming from a state that is a bit short on frogs.... but I always got told if you see a turtle on a fence post, you may not know how it got there, but you can be damn sure it had help.... less certain on the frog on a fence thing...
@hanlonsk Yeah, I considered that. Does not seem to be any other way to explain it.0 -
June 28, 2017 10:06PM
6/1- REST
6/2- 5.2 Miles
6/3- 19
6/4- 4.3
6/5- 4.2
6/6- 3.2
6/7- 8.0
6/8- REST
6/9- 3.2
6/10- 9
6/11- REST
4/12- 4.0
6/13- REST
6/14- 5
6/15- REST
6/16- 3.1
6/17- 26.2
6/18- REST
6/19- REST
6/20- REST
6/21- 5.1
6/22- 5.1
6/23- REST
6/24- 8.7
6/25- 5
6/26- REST
6/27- 5.5
6/28- 3.3
6/29- 6.1
Total: 133.6
Goal for June. Finish Marathon training well, taper well and run Grandma's well
Nominal mileage goal: 100
Today's notes: Today called for 6 easy miles. I ended up with 6.1 and a stop at the grocery store. I slowed down quite a bit tonight, my first run in a long time that was slower than 10min/mile. But that's ok, between keeping my HR at 158 or lower and carrying 2 full 20oz bottles (and an 8 pack of burritos the last 0.75 miles), I still managed to keep my avwrage HR at 153 with 78% of the run in z2/1. Ill be working on getting my HR down more and relearning eawy running.
Interesting thing... even though I don't place any stock in it, Garmin gave me the same recovery time for today's 6bmiles as yesterday's 3..... my watch must think I took it a lot easier....
With tomorrow being a rest day, this was my last run of the month. Pretty happy with my mileage, I just need to keep on working I learning when to cut back and take it easy.
Hope you all had a runderful day!
2017 Races Scheduled
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon 4:24:06
7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 50k
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot1 -
June Goal: Goal? We don't need no stinkin goal.....
6/1 nothin
6/2 4.00
6/3 4.00
6/4 4.00
6/5 rest
6/6 3.87
6/7 4.13
6/8 3.50
6/9 rest
6/10 6.12
6/11 3.50
6/12 4.00
6/13 rest
6/14 4.00
6/15 3.70
6/16 4.13
6/17 rest
6/18 6.40
6/19 snorkel 3 hours
6/20 4.70
6/21 3.50
6/22 DAMWORK
6/23 DAMWORK
6/24 3.40
6/25 3.25
6/26 My hips hurt! (wimped out)
6/27 snorkel 3.5 hours (including a 1/2 mile rough-water swim)
6/28 6.25 (with a personal best!)
6/29 3.06
Total 79.51
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
@Elise4270 : that was some nasty burn! Steve's pic in the pool was taken in August. In Phoenix. In the middle of the day--he suffered a terrible burn. We were young and stupid. My mommy guilt trip/angst tells me that's when it started....
@girlinahat: I had read that about those starfish before, and yet in 12 years of at least bimonthly snorkeling, it's the first I've seen.
@KatieJane83 I'm late, but great run and race report!
Steve says: "Wear your sunblock and join our virtual run!"
upcoming races:
Fun in the Sun Virtual 10k 6/28/17
Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »I've been running too hard on ALL of my runs
@MNLittleFinn I've noticed you say you ran too hard after pretty much every run.
It's been happening so long I've lost the plot now and can't work out if 80/20 is too hard for anyone to follow, or if you're worrying too much, or if you really are overreaching.
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1/6 - 3.6
2/6 - 4.9
3/6-5.6
4/6 -REST
5/6-3.9
6/6-4.7
7/6-3.1
8/6-4.3
9/0 -REST
10/6-3.8
11/6-6.5
12/6-REST
13/6-3.7
14/6-5.2
15/6-6.0
16/6-REST
17/6-5.1
18/6-5.1
19/6-3.4
20/6-3.4
21/6-REST
22/6 - 4.0
23/6-3.6
24/6-REST
25/6-7.2
26/6-4.6
27/6-3.8
28/6-REST
29/6-3.3
Total - 98.8/90 Miles3
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