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@sardelsa @SezxyStef @quiksylver296 I absolutely have done and currently do yoga. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's your body cooling down. I think my definition of real exercise is when my heart rate goes up, I'm out of breath, and I feel like I really worked. I do know yoga is work but it just doesn't feel the same, it does not give me that same sense of accomplishment or make me feel like there's going to be any sort of calorie deficit when I'm done.8
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Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I hate bikram. I don't feel like I get a good workout in it, either. Some good vinyasa class, though?!? Yeah, baby.8 -
Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I get what sweating is...but I also know this.
That I lift weights...heavy weights and can bench press my body weight and I am not strong enough yet to get into a lot of the yoga poses out there and hold them...so when you can and you believe those aren't real exercise or burns calories (btw just laying burns calories) come talk to us.
ETA these images...for example...tell me that these are not exercise...
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@sardelsa @SezxyStef @quiksylver296 I absolutely have done and currently do yoga. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's your body cooling down. I think my definition of real exercise is when my heart rate goes up, I'm out of breath, and I feel like I really worked. I do know yoga is work but it just doesn't feel the same, it does not give me that same sense of accomplishment or make me feel like there's going to be any sort of calorie deficit when I'm done.
Well sounds like we have a different definition of exercise. My heart rate doesn't go up that much and I am not out of breath when I am in the gym.. and my exercise actually does not put me in a calorie deficit. To me, exercise has nothing to do with calorie burn.20 -
@sardelsa @SezxyStef @quiksylver296 I absolutely have done and currently do yoga. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's your body cooling down. I think my definition of real exercise is when my heart rate goes up, I'm out of breath, and I feel like I really worked. I do know yoga is work but it just doesn't feel the same, it does not give me that same sense of accomplishment or make me feel like there's going to be any sort of calorie deficit when I'm done.
Well sounds like we have a different definition of exercise. My heart rate doesn't go up that much and I am not out of breath when I am in the gym.. and my exercise actually does not put me in a calorie deficit. To me, exercise has nothing to do with calorie burn.
Co-signed.11 -
@sardelsa @SezxyStef @quiksylver296 I absolutely have done and currently do yoga. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's your body cooling down. I think my definition of real exercise is when my heart rate goes up, I'm out of breath, and I feel like I really worked. I do know yoga is work but it just doesn't feel the same, it does not give me that same sense of accomplishment or make me feel like there's going to be any sort of calorie deficit when I'm done.
Well sounds like we have a different definition of exercise. My heart rate doesn't go up that much and I am not out of breath when I am in the gym.. and my exercise actually does not put me in a calorie deficit. To me, exercise has nothing to do with calorie burn.
Totally agree with that.
I can do a 5k run and not be out of breath or "feel" like I have worked...I can squat 140lbs x12 and be fine to.
Exercise for me is something you do to increase your fitness level and aid in being healthy...
calorie burns just mean I can eat more food...so yah no deficit after exercise.2 -
@sardelsa @SezxyStef @quiksylver296 I absolutely have done and currently do yoga. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's your body cooling down. I think my definition of real exercise is when my heart rate goes up, I'm out of breath, and I feel like I really worked. I do know yoga is work but it just doesn't feel the same, it does not give me that same sense of accomplishment or make me feel like there's going to be any sort of calorie deficit when I'm done.
Well sounds like we have a different definition of exercise. My heart rate doesn't go up that much and I am not out of breath when I am in the gym.. and my exercise actually does not put me in a calorie deficit. To me, exercise has nothing to do with calorie burn.
I respect that.0 -
Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I get what sweating is...but I also know this.
That I lift weights...heavy weights and can bench press my body weight and I am not strong enough yet to get into a lot of the yoga poses out there and hold them...so when you can and you believe those aren't real exercise or burns calories (btw just laying burns calories) come talk to us.
ETA these images...for example...tell me that these are not exercise...
Good for you. I'll stick with what another person wrote, we have a different definition of exercise. It would also appear that our goals are very different as well.2 -
Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I get what sweating is...but I also know this.
That I lift weights...heavy weights and can bench press my body weight and I am not strong enough yet to get into a lot of the yoga poses out there and hold them...so when you can and you believe those aren't real exercise or burns calories (btw just laying burns calories) come talk to us.
ETA these images...for example...tell me that these are not exercise...
Good for you. I'll stick with what another person wrote, we have a different definition of exercise. It would also appear that our goals are very different as well.
I agreed with it as well...but still not sure how you can say those images are not exercise...but hey you have at.3 -
@quiksylver296 Vinyasa you say? I'll look into that, thank you!1
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Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I get what sweating is...but I also know this.
That I lift weights...heavy weights and can bench press my body weight and I am not strong enough yet to get into a lot of the yoga poses out there and hold them...so when you can and you believe those aren't real exercise or burns calories (btw just laying burns calories) come talk to us.
ETA these images...for example...tell me that these are not exercise...
Good for you. I'll stick with what another person wrote, we have a different definition of exercise. It would also appear that our goals are very different as well.
I agreed with it as well...but still not sure how you can say those images are not exercise...but hey you have at.
Flexibility, balance and strength wrapped up in one pose. IKR2 -
Yes I have done yoga, thank you. I love bikram but I don't think it's a fat burning exercise as much stretching. And sweating a lot is not a gauge of how many calories you're burning, it's our bodies cooling down.
I get what sweating is...but I also know this.
That I lift weights...heavy weights and can bench press my body weight and I am not strong enough yet to get into a lot of the yoga poses out there and hold them...so when you can and you believe those aren't real exercise or burns calories (btw just laying burns calories) come talk to us.
ETA these images...for example...tell me that these are not exercise...
Good for you. I'll stick with what another person wrote, we have a different definition of exercise. It would also appear that our goals are very different as well.
I agreed with it as well...but still not sure how you can say those images are not exercise...but hey you have at.
Flexibility, balance and strength wrapped up in one pose. IKR
I am in awe of these people..and those that do the transitions etc...amazing...
cody is one I think who does amazing transitions etc.
if I ever get into yoga...yah I am all over it.4 -
@quiksylver296 Vinyasa you say? I'll look into that, thank you!
You'll have to come back and tell us whether that changes your opinion of yoga.2 -
when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.3 -
when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
The exercise is patience.14 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
The exercise is patience.
Touche!3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.4 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.
I want to get into yoga as well...I Have never done it really...
I have tried a few of what people would call harder poses for a beginner flamingo I think was one...and I could do it..but my thing is the drive to go do it just isn't there...
I don't want it bad enough apparently.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.
I want to get into yoga as well...I Have never done it really...
I have tried a few of what people would call harder poses for a beginner flamingo I think was one...and I could do it..but my thing is the drive to go do it just isn't there...
I don't want it bad enough apparently.
The same with me. As a recovering alpha-male I have never felt that yoga had any role in my fitness plan, but I have started to prioritize flexibility and feel that yoga would be beneficial. But I haven't bought in to the extent that I have taken the step to actually show up at a yoga class, lol.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.
I want to get into yoga as well...I Have never done it really...
I have tried a few of what people would call harder poses for a beginner flamingo I think was one...and I could do it..but my thing is the drive to go do it just isn't there...
I don't want it bad enough apparently.
when I was 22 and fresh out of active duty I lived 2 blocks from the best yoga studio in Baltimore, and being a healthy young man with a single track mind, I figured it would be a great way to meet women. (it was).
I stopped going a few years later when I moved to New York. Coincidentally, that's also when I started piling on weight like a bear before winter.2 -
I was same way about yoga, i always poopoo’d it. But I read an article along these lines (see link)and it got me thinking about my flexibility and balance. Ugh
https://www.prevention.com/fitness/fitness-tips/stand-sit-test-predicts-longevity1 -
My cooldown stretches incorporate a few yoga stretches: child's pose, sphinx, downward dog. One of the interval workouts I do once in a while when I feel like a change includes sun salute. I have noticed a couple of things that tell me they accomplish something.
1) Judaism isn't big on prostration in prayer, except for during part of the Rosh Hashannah service. (It's optional, but many do.) In years past, getting up again was always a bit of an effort. But the prostration is pretty close to child's pose and after about 4-5 months of doing that three times a week, this year it wasn't a problem.
2) It took months, but I can actually get my heels on the ground during downward dog.
So maybe not burning many calories, but flexibility has improved.9 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.
I want to get into yoga as well...I Have never done it really...
I have tried a few of what people would call harder poses for a beginner flamingo I think was one...and I could do it..but my thing is the drive to go do it just isn't there...
I don't want it bad enough apparently.
...You've never really done yoga but you can sit there and say to me to 'come talk to us' when I can do certain poses, poses you yourself can't do and from what you say, you don't really try to do anyway? That's rich.13 -
Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?8
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?
Oh no, you're ABSOLUTELY right, they don't. I never said or implied that was necessary. It was her snide comment in her original post with the photos that got me. 'Come talk to us.' Who is the 'us' since it can't be you because you don't even do yoga. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read it but I let it go initially until she said she doesn't even do it.5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »when I was doing yoga, many years ago, I tried many different kinds.
Vinyasa (which means "flow") Yoga is all about movement, and is very taxing on the muscles.
There was another form that the studio called "zen" yoga, which was entirely stretching and holding poses for long time. It was intentionally not strenuous, and probably didn't burn hardly any calories. In fact, it might even burn fewer calories than normal activity, because it''s a lot of sitting very still and focusing on breathing, relaxing, and lowering the heart rate. Which would slow down your metabolic function.
I've just started doing a little zen yoga. It is so hard for my Type A personality! LOL When I actually quit trying to push each exercise to my limits and actually relax into the practice, it is SO GOOD. I feel so relaxed and energized afterwards. I do, however, agree that there is probably no "exercise" in zen yoga.
I really need to start doing yoga again, but it would be hard to fit into my schedule, and I'm till much heavier than I was back when I did it regularly, so my vanity is an impairment. But sooner or later I should start doing it again so i can regain that level of mobility.
I want to get into yoga as well...I Have never done it really...
I have tried a few of what people would call harder poses for a beginner flamingo I think was one...and I could do it..but my thing is the drive to go do it just isn't there...
I don't want it bad enough apparently.
...You've never really done yoga but you can sit there and say to me to 'come talk to us' when I can do certain poses, poses you yourself can't do and from what you say, you don't really try to do anyway? That's rich.
She simply said once you could do those poses then try to say it isn't exercise, but she never claimed she could do them herself. I personally can't do any of those poses either but it is fairly obvious that it would take a ton of strength, coordination, and balance to perform them which lends support to the idea that it is exercise. The pictures were posted to refute your claim that yoga is not exercise so I would take a step back down off of your high horse for a second and maybe try to see her point which you clearly missed.4 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?
Oh no, you're ABSOLUTELY right, they don't. I never said or implied that was necessary. It was her snide comment in her original post with the photos that got me. 'Come talk to us.' Who is the 'us' since it can't be you because you don't even do yoga. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read it but I let it go initially until she said she doesn't even do it.
I interpreted the "come talk to us" about it not being exercise, not come talk to us yogis.1
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