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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Heather4448 wrote: »I'm watching my grandfather do that to himself right now. He's just not getting enough protein or iron and that one bad fall on the horizon will be his curtain call. Super hard to get someone in their 90's to change life long patterns tho.
@Fyreside
A lot of people that age have the “doctor worship” mentality. If that is the case for your Grandfather, use it to your advantage. I once accompanied a client to a MD appt and had her write several “prescriptions.” Among them were, “Shower twice a week” and “Drink one chocolate ensure at bedtime.” It might be worth a try.
More than once I've found myself thinking his doctor is a little blasé. He seems quick to say, oh your just getting old. Which is valid, sure. But not specifically a reason to not investigate a medical complaint IMO. But Granddad does think the world of him so I definitely will contact him and see if he will play ball. I can only ask.
Good suggestion thanks. 3 -
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myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?5 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?
I've never heard of someone having an allergy to something like that (aspartame), but I'm very familiar with people having meat, dairy and nut allergies.0 -
myheartsabattleground wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?
I've never heard of someone having an allergy to something like that (aspartame), but I'm very familiar with people having meat, dairy and nut allergies.
I think people can be allergic to a huge range of things, really. There are people who are allergic to water. I recently found out that celery is a common allergen, I had no idea.0 -
I'm allergic to celery, it makes my mouth itch like crazy I'm ready to climb the walls. I didn't know that until a few years ago when I tried celery (not a common food here, had to hunt it down). It was funny because you never know what you're allergic to until you try it.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?
I've never heard of someone having an allergy to something like that (aspartame), but I'm very familiar with people having meat, dairy and nut allergies.
I think people can be allergic to a huge range of things, really. There are people who are allergic to water. I recently found out that celery is a common allergen, I had no idea.
I still wonder how people with a water allergy don't die.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?
I've never heard of someone having an allergy to something like that (aspartame), but I'm very familiar with people having meat, dairy and nut allergies.
I think people can be allergic to a huge range of things, really. There are people who are allergic to water. I recently found out that celery is a common allergen, I had no idea.
I still wonder how people with a water allergy don't die.
Weirdly, the story I read about the woman with the water allergy stated she "cannot drink water, juice, tea or coffee, opting for diet cola instead."
Cue the "diet soda doesn't count as water" statements. And I really wouldn't know how to answer it...0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »myheartsabattleground wrote: »
My nephew is allergic to nuts. What's your point?
I've never heard of someone having an allergy to something like that (aspartame), but I'm very familiar with people having meat, dairy and nut allergies.
I think people can be allergic to a huge range of things, really. There are people who are allergic to water. I recently found out that celery is a common allergen, I had no idea.
I still wonder how people with a water allergy don't die.
Weirdly, the story I read about the woman with the water allergy stated she "cannot drink water, juice, tea or coffee, opting for diet cola instead."
Cue the "diet soda doesn't count as water" statements. And I really wouldn't know how to answer it...
Sounds legit. Because it’s not like diet cola isn’t 99% water or anything.
The derp some people believe/come up with is mind-boggling sometimes.0 -
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...also, holy moly that is a long article. That I didn't read, because gremlins.1
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myheartsabattleground wrote: »
I did read it. The woman who's interviewed isn't allergic to water, by her own account. She has a dermatological disease that's aggravated by exposure to water. She mentions someone else who allegedly can't drink water, but can drink diet cola. Both anecdotal, but the latter hearsay as well.
Yeah, i know . . . but I read fast.
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cmriverside wrote: »...also, holy moly that is a long article. That I didn't read, because gremlins.
The rules are so simple. NEVER feed them after midnight.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »...also, holy moly that is a long article. That I didn't read, because gremlins.
The rules are so simple. NEVER feed them after midnight.
And don’t get them wet. And bright light will kill them.3 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »...also, holy moly that is a long article. That I didn't read, because gremlins.
The rules are so simple. NEVER feed them after midnight.
And don’t get them wet. And bright light will kill them.
But they do put on one heck of a musical.1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »...also, holy moly that is a long article. That I didn't read, because gremlins.
The rules are so simple. NEVER feed them after midnight.
And don’t get them wet. And bright light will kill them.
But they do put on one heck of a musical.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/diet-soda-makers-sued-over-misleading-ads/
I have some unpopular opinions for the people filing suit...5 -
byustrongman wrote: »https://www.cbsnews.com/news/diet-soda-makers-sued-over-misleading-ads/
I have some unpopular opinions for the people filing suit...
Oh, isn't that the one where one of the lawyers who filed the lawsuit couldn't even spell aspartame correctly?7 -
It’s click bait0
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*sigh* I was in the company of some folks yesterday who I had not seen in a while, and they noticed I had lost weight. That led to an in-depth discussion with one gentleman on weight loss methods, and revealed to me that apparently, my opinion that when a person does a low carb diet like the Atkins diet and goes into ketosis, that the body simply switches from using carbs to using stored fat, releasing ketones,and that whether you are doing high carb or low carb, that energy balance and CICO were what caused a person to lose weight, not necessarily what they were fueling their bodies with - I mistakenly made the claim that even if you are doing the paleo or Atkins diets, you still had to watch the calories in verses calories out in order to lose weight. He actually made the claim that when you are doing low carb and are in ketosis, you could eat a million calories a day and would lose weight!
Amazing! And here I thought that the point was energy balance, whether I was using glucose or ketones to power my body, when all along, it wasn't necessary at all to count calories and watch my intake! Well, at least I know it now before the holidays! *note: that was stated VERY tongue in cheek......*10 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »*sigh* I was in the company of some folks yesterday who I had not seen in a while, and they noticed I had lost weight. That led to an in-depth discussion with one gentleman on weight loss methods, and revealed to me that apparently, my opinion that when a person does a low carb diet like the Atkins diet and goes into ketosis, that the body simply switches from using carbs to using stored fat, releasing ketones,and that whether you are doing high carb or low carb, that energy balance and CICO were what caused a person to lose weight, not necessarily what they were fueling their bodies with - I mistakenly made the claim that even if you are doing the paleo or Atkins diets, you still had to watch the calories in verses calories out in order to lose weight. He actually made the claim that when you are doing low carb and are in ketosis, you could eat a million calories a day and would lose weight!
Amazing! And here I thought that the point was energy balance, whether I was using glucose or ketones to power my body, when all along, it wasn't necessary at all to count calories and watch my intake! Well, at least I know it now before the holidays! *note: that was stated VERY tongue in cheek......*
This just in: prolonged ketosis leads to death from starvation!
The dude didn't really think his argument through there.4 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »*sigh* I was in the company of some folks yesterday who I had not seen in a while, and they noticed I had lost weight. That led to an in-depth discussion with one gentleman on weight loss methods, and revealed to me that apparently, my opinion that when a person does a low carb diet like the Atkins diet and goes into ketosis, that the body simply switches from using carbs to using stored fat, releasing ketones,and that whether you are doing high carb or low carb, that energy balance and CICO were what caused a person to lose weight, not necessarily what they were fueling their bodies with - I mistakenly made the claim that even if you are doing the paleo or Atkins diets, you still had to watch the calories in verses calories out in order to lose weight. He actually made the claim that when you are doing low carb and are in ketosis, you could eat a million calories a day and would lose weight!
Amazing! And here I thought that the point was energy balance, whether I was using glucose or ketones to power my body, when all along, it wasn't necessary at all to count calories and watch my intake! Well, at least I know it now before the holidays! *note: that was stated VERY tongue in cheek......*
And how much weight had he lost so far, on those million calories or thereabouts?
Perhaps he's been successful on low carb - many here on MFP are, of course. But people I've had the analogous conversation with in real life have, to the last woman, been contrasting their I'm-stlll-overweight book-learnin' with my actual 50-plus-pounds-lost thin self standing right in front of them. "You can't lose weight eating carbs." Incredible.
(Jeez, used up my whole day's hyphen budget, and its only 1:30. ) 9 -
stevencloser wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »*sigh* I was in the company of some folks yesterday who I had not seen in a while, and they noticed I had lost weight. That led to an in-depth discussion with one gentleman on weight loss methods, and revealed to me that apparently, my opinion that when a person does a low carb diet like the Atkins diet and goes into ketosis, that the body simply switches from using carbs to using stored fat, releasing ketones,and that whether you are doing high carb or low carb, that energy balance and CICO were what caused a person to lose weight, not necessarily what they were fueling their bodies with - I mistakenly made the claim that even if you are doing the paleo or Atkins diets, you still had to watch the calories in verses calories out in order to lose weight. He actually made the claim that when you are doing low carb and are in ketosis, you could eat a million calories a day and would lose weight!
Amazing! And here I thought that the point was energy balance, whether I was using glucose or ketones to power my body, when all along, it wasn't necessary at all to count calories and watch my intake! Well, at least I know it now before the holidays! *note: that was stated VERY tongue in cheek......*
This just in: prolonged ketosis leads to death from starvation!
The dude didn't really think his argument through there.
No, no: You just don't understand! His keto remakes the body into the perfect machine: Able to thrive at ideal weight on as much or little as you choose to feed it.
Darn science freaks just don't get it. 10 -
somebody needs to go back and read their own keto literature, because I haven't ever heard any such nonense, even from people like Mark Sisson.
A lot of them say that you don't have to count calories, but their reasoning is that if you follow their plan you'll only CRAVE the amount of calories you need, or slightly less.
Hell, if anything you have to count MORE diligently on a strict keto diet, because you have to watch for every gram of carbohydrate you can.
I've also never seen somebody advocate staying on a keto diet indefinitely. Most of them are pitched as specifically temporary diets to "retune" your body, woo or not.5 -
It's really common to hear claims that one can lose regardless of calories on keto. And even if they don't directly claim it or back down/hedge when pressed, that's clearly the concept behind all the "calories don't matter" assertions from diet gurus of all stripes (not just keto). Similarly, the "it's insulin, not calories" thing. On the whole MFP low carber/ketoers don't seem to buy into that koolaid, but you see it among some percentage of newbies who show up here and the occasional drive-by ketoevangelist who pops in to tell us all how to do it.
I've also seen plenty of people pushing keto as a good way to eat indefinitely (and I have no problem with that, if that's how someone likes eating). Tim Noakes is one example or even Phinney and Volek, who discuss keto as a way to eat, not just a way to diet. I listen to some keto podcasts (sometimes, I listen to vegan ones too), where the hosts are all about eating keto while training and so on, and not for weight loss specifically.
(I'm sure Jimmy Moore is also pushing keto for life, and while I have issues with him, since I find it bizarre he's supposed to be a diet expert, I suspect he may be responsible for a high percentage of newbie keto-ers, however much I don't get it. He seems popular and gets referenced a lot among newbies, including his over-the-top warnings about too much protein.)1 -
I don't think yoga is real exercise or actually burns any calories.17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybxJ6g5oVgY
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