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They Aren't Curves, They're Fat Rolls
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An obese person isn't "curvy". It's fat rolls. Tired of the political correctness and marketing ploys.
I'm still over-weight but used to be 30lbs heavier. I was FAT. Period! I'm still over-weight but getting there slowly but surely.
Let's stop lying and enabling and start being honest and do what we have to do. Let's call a duck a duck and stop dodging and ignoring the obesity problem we have here. A least in the US. Start helping out, which includes HONESTY.
I'm still over-weight but used to be 30lbs heavier. I was FAT. Period! I'm still over-weight but getting there slowly but surely.
Let's stop lying and enabling and start being honest and do what we have to do. Let's call a duck a duck and stop dodging and ignoring the obesity problem we have here. A least in the US. Start helping out, which includes HONESTY.
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Can you point out the fat rolls for me please:
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You consider yourself obese?1
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A person can be fat without having fat rolls. A person can be a healthy/normal weight with fat rolls.
I don't think anyone is dodging the truth. An obese person typically knows they are at an unhealthy weight and I don't think yelling "You're fat not curvy" at them solves the problem.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Start shouting that we need better nutrition information and to crack down on the BS from the weight loss industry. That's the real problem, not how someone refers to their body.52 -
Um, people can be fat and curvy at the same time. I know at least one woman who is substantially overweight and has a perfectly proportioned hour-glass figure. <shrug>15
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True. But fat is fat. Doesn't make them "Curvy" like the enabling industry would have us believe. Again, calling a duck a duck. And the sooner we start taking responsibility and stop making excuses then the healthier we'll become quicker.6
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True. But fat is fat. Doesn't make them "Curvy" like the enabling industry would have us believe. Again, calling a duck a duck. And the sooner we start taking responsibility and stop making excuses then the healthier we'll become quicker.
I don't think saying someone is curvy is making an excuse. You can be curvy without being fat and you can be curvy while fat. I think you are projecting.
The funny thing about this whole weight loss thing is that when we start making progress we suddenly think we can fix everyone else. Obesity is more complex than the label someone puts on their body. Even if we flat out called people fat it wouldn't fix it.
http://www.shiftn.com/obesity/Full-Map.html35 -
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.9 -
For the record, I didn't start this thread to start crap. I thought I was replying to the thread "What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?" I wondered why there was a field to add a title. Oops! :-(5
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For the record, I didn't start this thread to start crap. I thought I was replying to the thread "What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?" I wondered why there was a field to add a title. Oops! :-(
You can go reply to that one and report this thread to ask for it to be removed.3 -
For the record, I didn't start this thread to start crap. I thought I was replying to the thread "What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?" I wondered why there was a field to add a title. Oops! :-(
You can go reply to that one and report this thread to ask for it to be removed.
Good idea.1 -
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.
So you're saying that any overweight (or obese) person who doesn't consider themselves fat and ugly is in denial? And anyone who looks at them and sees something other than fat and ugly is an enabler?
I...can't even.20 -
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Packerjohn wrote: »
Yeah, I couldn't find a good one of her without the airbrushing. She still doesn't have rolls.3 -
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.
So you're saying that any overweight (or obese) person who doesn't consider themselves fat and ugly is in denial? And anyone who looks at them and sees something other than fat and ugly is an enabler?
I...can't even.
I didn't say ugly. That's your thinking, not mine.8 -
I mean, I do have to agree with this. Kinda goes hand in hand with the *unpopular fitness/health opinion" thread. A lot of people on there were saying the same thing.
Fat is fat, and the political correctness movement has everyone pandering to these people and encouraging them to remain the same and accept themselves instead of change unhealthy ways. I get it. Some people carry weight differently, and I agree with the statement that someone said earlier about fat people that are perfectly hour glass figured and healthy people who have fat rolls (HI! I am one of them!) However, if someone is obese, it should not be glorified. Good for them if they are happy with their appearance, but don't encourage others to be complacent and not live a healthier life.7 -
bigmuneymfp wrote: »
I'm pretty sure she's like 6' 2" or something, so she probably isn't obese.2 -
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.
So you're saying that any overweight (or obese) person who doesn't consider themselves fat and ugly is in denial? And anyone who looks at them and sees something other than fat and ugly is an enabler?
I...can't even.
I didn't say ugly. That's your thinking, not mine.
My mistake. Fat and lazy it is.0 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »I mean, I do have to agree with this. Kinda goes hand in hand with the *unpopular fitness/health opinion" thread. A lot of people on there were saying the same thing.
Fat is fat, and the political correctness movement has everyone pandering to these people and encouraging them to remain the same and accept themselves instead of change unhealthy ways. I get it. Some people carry weight differently, and I agree with the statement that someone said earlier about fat people that are perfectly hour glass figured and healthy people who have fat rolls (HI! I am one of them!) However, if someone is obese, it should not be glorified. Good for them if they are happy with their appearance, but don't encourage others to be complacent and not live a healthier life.
How is not saying anything or seeing them for more than their weight encouraging them to be complacent?
Also, you are saying that it is others responsibility to tell someone they are fat or unhealthy? Who exactly is responsible for an adult's weight and health other than them?10 -
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.
So you're saying that any overweight (or obese) person who doesn't consider themselves fat and ugly is in denial? And anyone who looks at them and sees something other than fat and ugly is an enabler?
I...can't even.
I didn't say ugly. That's your thinking, not mine.
My mistake. Fat and lazy it is.
I'm over-weight too. And I refuse to apply the same trickery to myself that I refuse to apply to others who are obese or over-weight. I couldn't lose weight until I finally faced the facts. I was fat (still over-weight), lazy and didn't give a crap. And people telling me "you're fine the way you are" was an extreme disservice, even if it was well meaning. We need to cut that out and try honestly on for size.
So you're saying that any overweight (or obese) person who doesn't consider themselves fat and ugly is in denial? And anyone who looks at them and sees something other than fat and ugly is an enabler?
I...can't even.
I didn't say ugly. That's your thinking, not mine.
My mistake. Fat and lazy it is.
Yes, I said I was fat and lazy. That's correct. And while not every who is fat is lazy, laziness often compounds the problem.4 -
She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
We're talking about fat, though, not fit. And honestly, I don't think we can deduce anyone's fitness by how their legs look.17 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
We're talking about fat, though, not fit. And honestly, I don't think we can deduce anyone's fitness by how their legs look.
Sure you can. The bumpy, lumpy skin on her thighs looks that way due to cellulite. Cellulite is fat. Stubborn fat that is distressingly easy to accumulate and distressingly difficult to shed but it's fat. My legs looked just like that when I was heavier (30%BF) and don't now that I'm fit (23%BF). You'll be hard pressed to find cellulite deposits on fit people.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
We're talking about fat, though, not fit. And honestly, I don't think we can deduce anyone's fitness by how their legs look.
Sure you can. The bumpy, lumpy skin on her thighs looks that way due to cellulite. Cellulite is fat. Stubborn fat that is distressingly easy to accumulate and distressingly difficult to shed but it's fat. My legs looked just like that when I was heavier (30%BF) and don't now that I'm fit (23%BF). You'll be hard pressed to find cellulite deposits on fit people.
We're talking about rolls.
I have cellulite when I am competition lean. I'm not the only one either.
She isn't fat:
Oh look, someone with visible abs, she must be fat:
Credit for image: https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/the-dirty-little-secret-of-the-female-athlete-cellulite31 -
To go back to the original post:
Does calling people fat help them be less fat?11 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
We're talking about fat, though, not fit. And honestly, I don't think we can deduce anyone's fitness by how their legs look.
Sure you can. The bumpy, lumpy skin on her thighs looks that way due to cellulite. Cellulite is fat. Stubborn fat that is distressingly easy to accumulate and distressingly difficult to shed but it's fat. My legs looked just like that when I was heavier (30%BF) and don't now that I'm fit (23%BF). You'll be hard pressed to find cellulite deposits on fit people.
Oh really? I have cellulite and I consider myself a very fit person. I also have pretty muscular legs and lower bodyfat. It has nothing do to with fitness.28 -
born_of_fire74 wrote: »born_of_fire74 wrote: »She's very pretty but those are not the legs of a fit person.
We're talking about fat, though, not fit. And honestly, I don't think we can deduce anyone's fitness by how their legs look.
Sure you can. The bumpy, lumpy skin on her thighs looks that way due to cellulite. Cellulite is fat. Stubborn fat that is distressingly easy to accumulate and distressingly difficult to shed but it's fat. My legs looked just like that when I was heavier (30%BF) and don't now that I'm fit (23%BF). You'll be hard pressed to find cellulite deposits on fit people.
Oh really? I have cellulite and I consider myself a very fit person. I also have pretty muscular legs and lower bodyfat. It has nothing do to with fitness.
Me too! ETA: The tan and lighting make it look better than it is.
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