carbs...are they the enemy?
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I stick to 20 grams of carbohydrates I add more fat11
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I was eating more than 200g of carbs a day and had no issues losing weight or fat. I am eating more than than now and maintaining my weight and still losing some fat.9
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The healthiest populations in the world (blue zones) tend to have high carb diets.
The fattest populations in the world have the highest calorie intakes.
Food for thought? (Pun intended.)28 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »No, carbs aren't the enemy...there are all kinds of highly nutritious carbohydrates...veggies are carbs, fruit is carbs, beans and lentils are carbs, potatoes and sweet potatoes and other starchy root vegetables are carbs...etc,
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb10 -
I stick to 20 grams of carbohydrates I add more fat
It's great that you've found something that's clicked with you, but while fat is satiating for you, different macro ratios/foods have different satiation levels for different people. Fat does absolutely nothing for me and I do much better on a high carb plan. A typical day for me is 800-100 grams of veggies and fruit, 5-6 servings of whole grains, a serving of beans, 3-4 ounces of salmon or chicken breast, and then 2-3 servings of low fat dairy and 1 tsp of olive oil a day, (I follow a modified DASH diet protocol, which is heralded as one of the healthiest ways to eat). High carb, moderate protein, low fat. This is what clicks with me and makes it easy for me to hit my goals.
Op-for weight loss you need to be focusing on your calorie intake. Everything else is background noise. Experiment with different foods and see what clicks with you
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Carbs are not my enemy because I know it is too many calories that cause weight gain and don't feel the need to demonize specific foods.7
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Fung is a salesman.14 -
I went from 296 lb to 240 lb in 9 months eating 20 gram of carbs or less. I eating around 2000 to 2500 cal. A day never felt better. I was able to get off all of med's my macros were 5 % carbs 20 % protein 75 % fat. I highly recommend the low carb lifestyle. Here's a cool article on an athlete who eats low carb
http://www.mensfitness.com/training/endurance/zach-bitter-100-mile-american-record-holder-he-also-eats-almost-no-carbs
And Tour de France riders eat thousands of calories a day in carbs - which is slightly more relevant (but still close to being virtually irrelevant!) to the general population than one ultra marathon runner.
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/this-is-what-you-have-to-eat-to-compete-in-the-tour-de-france-1827755 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »No, carbs aren't the enemy...there are all kinds of highly nutritious carbohydrates...veggies are carbs, fruit is carbs, beans and lentils are carbs, potatoes and sweet potatoes and other starchy root vegetables are carbs...etc,
Not really sure what the point is here...
You should google "blue zones"...healthiest populations in the world...relatively high carbohydrate. There is absolutely not reason to do Keto other than you want to...even if you have health conditions for which carbohydrates should be monitored, keto isn't necessary. My dad was a type II and easily controlled his diabetes with his diet and was nowhere near keto.
I have no health conditions which would warrant something as radical and restrictive as keto...
ETA: when I was losing weight (and if/when I need to cut weight) I typically lower my carbs...but that is only because my protein and fat remain relatively constant regardless of whether I'm losing or maintaining so I flex the carbs...when I'm losing weight I'm typically between 130-150 grams of carbs per day and had zero issue losing weight at a steady clip...6 -
I can't eat less than 150 g of carbs per day. If i do, i will loose ability to think straight, concentrate on more complex problems, sometimes even get a decent headache. Most days i try to keep my carb intake between 150-200 g, but sometimes it gets higher than that. Has not hindered my weight loss in any way though.6
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cwolfman13 wrote: »No, carbs aren't the enemy...there are all kinds of highly nutritious carbohydrates...veggies are carbs, fruit is carbs, beans and lentils are carbs, potatoes and sweet potatoes and other starchy root vegetables are carbs...etc, etc, etc...
Yes, exactly.
For an illustration:
100 g of broccoli (roughly, a serving) is nearly 7 g carbs.
100 g of brussels sprouts is 9 g of carbs.
50 g of kale is over 4 g of carbs.
That's 20 g -- clearly if one wants to eat 8+ servings of vegetables, which I aim to do, it's tough to fit it in on very low carb unless you are unnecessarily restrictive with the veg you eat (sad with the abundance at this time of year). Add on maybe a serving or 2 of fruit, and say some beans or nuts or dairy or some sweet potato, let alone some whole grains (including corn, which is in season right now), you could easily go way over it, and still have an extremely healthy diet. I don't think it's possible for me to get adequate vegetables on 20 g (even if that's net).
OP, if you find that you are having trouble keeping to your calorie goal, reducing carbs and increasing protein may be something to try (also increasing carbs for some, increasing fiber, eating more satiating individual foods, playing around with meal timing, etc.). But carbs are absolutely not the enemy and I think some of them are important to have in a healthy diet (and others are great if you enjoy them).
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I didn't say anything about carbs being the reason. I said and keep a deficit.RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Which you would also see if your carbs were higher.
Calories are what matter for weight loss.
I didn't say anything about carbs being the reason. I said and keep a deficit.
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stevencloser wrote: »
Fung is a salesman.
They all are.3 -
It depends, carbs from veggies, not so much. Carbs from donuts...I like to consider them my frenemy.5
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I've eaten carbs from donuts frequently in the last 9 months and either lost the 10lbs I wanted, or stayed weight stable (the last 2 months)...even those aren't the devil if they fit into your allowance for the day3
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I'm insulin resistant so I'm tracking my calories and my carbs. Not strict but keep them between 50-100. If you're insulin resistant or think you may be, it wouldn't hurt to track them.5
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deannalfisher wrote: »
Lol...I'm so glad I'm not a donut guy. I'd be about 800 Lbs I think. I have one a few times per year...usually father's day with my kids because that's their father's day thing they came up with somehow and then I get some random craving for one a couple other times...usually a chocolate covered with red chile and bacon from Rebel.5 -
I lost 95 pounds and I ate carbs. I think it's because I ate EVERYTHING in moderation and correct portions that I was able to succeed. In the past, when I drastically reduced or eliminated a certain food or food group, that is what led to my multiple failures.
Except all this talk of donuts.......
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