October 2017 Running Challenge
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@LaurenFOB2301 Everyone's different, so it's going to be next to impossible to predict how much and how quickly you'll improve. Rest assured though that you're doing incredibly well, and you should continue to see improvements as long as you keep things sensible and don't try to do too much too soon.
As an anecdote, I started out about 15 months ago, and was running with a pace that was over 12:00 min/mi. Over the months, I've watched my pace slowly increase, along with my endurance, to the point where I ran a marathon earlier this month with an average pace of 8:03. While YMMV, lots of mileage will definitely help.
That's great to hear. Thanks for sharing your own personal experience -- how amazing you went from doing 12 minute miles to running a marathon. I'm thinking about signing up for a 5ks next month or 10ks (eventually).
I'm worried about being consistent as I head into colder months (I live in Chicago) and that my mileage will suffer. but I'm trying to stay positive and reminding myself that running in all types of weather conditions will only make me stronger.
Today, temps were near perfect, in the mid 50s, but it was raining hard all morning. I still managed to run a few miles at the high school track. I enjoy running in the rain. Not sure how I feel about running in the snow yet!3 -
@LaurenFOB2301 I’m still running 12-13minute miles.
I read that if you run further, you will gradually increase your speed. That hasn’t happened for me, I can just run further.
What are your goals? Do you want to be a speedy runner? If so I guess speedwork is the best thing once you’ve got some solid distance and consistency under your belt. Or do you want to run trails, run long, run high or run extreme? I’ve had to learn the hard way that being willing to adjust my goal is the most important thing. Speed won’t necessarily come.1 -
October 1 - 16 km
October 2 - 16 km
October 3 - 16 km
October 4 - 16 km
October 5 - 16 km
October 6 - 16 km
October 7 - rest day
October 8 - 21 km
October 9 - 16 km
October 10 - 16 km
October 11 - 16 km
October 12 - strength training/stairmarster
October 13 - 16 km
October 14 - strength training/stairmarster
October 15 - 18.5 km
October 16 - rest day
October 17 - 16.5 km/ stairmarster
October 18 - 16 km run /strength training
October 19 - raining no run
October 20 - 16.5 km run
October 21 - 11.5 km run / strength training
October 22 - 5 km run joined local running group
October 23 - 19.5 km long run
October 24 - 11.5 km run
Total km - 296 km out of 350 km4 -
Yay!
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6 miles some easy last 2 with some pick up. Too muggy and 68 degrees, where is fall?
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@PastorVincent what surprise is showing up at your door??0
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Runningmischka wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »Anyone ever get in a funk after an accomplishment because you didn't know what to do next? Yeah, that's where I'm at. Weird feeling.
There is always the Ironman
If Only I could swim well enough...
another ultra seems to be in my future though
You can just go full on crazy and do this.....
http://www.badwater.com/event/badwater-135/
When I was stationed at 29 Palms, one of the instructors used to run this every year. 135 miles through Death Valley. That's enough of a challenge to test anybody 2 -
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PastorVincent wrote: »
Nice!! You'll be happy with it I've been looking at upgrading from my 235. Let me know what you think of it. 1 -
dudasd1973 wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »Runningmischka wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »Anyone ever get in a funk after an accomplishment because you didn't know what to do next? Yeah, that's where I'm at. Weird feeling.
There is always the Ironman
If Only I could swim well enough...
another ultra seems to be in my future though
You can just go full on crazy and do this.....
http://www.badwater.com/event/badwater-135/
When I was stationed at 29 Palms, one of the instructors used to run this every year. 135 miles through Death Valley. That's enough of a challenge to test anybody
Respect! I've been to Death Valley; it's an amazing place. I was exhausted just from hiking every day. Can't imagine what those runners are feeling.0 -
dudasd1973 wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »Runningmischka wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »Anyone ever get in a funk after an accomplishment because you didn't know what to do next? Yeah, that's where I'm at. Weird feeling.
There is always the Ironman
If Only I could swim well enough...
another ultra seems to be in my future though
You can just go full on crazy and do this.....
http://www.badwater.com/event/badwater-135/
When I was stationed at 29 Palms, one of the instructors used to run this every year. 135 miles through Death Valley. That's enough of a challenge to test anybody
Badwater is a bucket list race for me. It's been on my radar for a while. I'll probably go for a 100 mile next year as my next big goal. 24+ hours of running/hiking will be a heck of an experience.2 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »
Respect! I've been to Death Valley; it's an amazing place. I was exhausted just from hiking every day. Can't imagine what those runners are feeling.
Yeah, having been there through the summer and having to get up at 4AM just to go run for PT I can only imagine putting in any serious distance. Having been fresh off of 3 marathons he was really trying to talk me into getting out there if I stuck around after MOS school. Lucky for me I ended up going to Okinawa LOL 0 -
@MNLittleFinn I do believe that Badwater definitely falls into the "you gotta want it" category when it comes to pushing through.0
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How in the world do you find time to TRAIN for 100 mile run? I struggle to find time for long runs in the Marathon plans.
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@MNLittleFinn as ever sir you are a beast! Love the RR and I totally agree that ultras expose your weaknesses hard. P.S. I fully expect you to come to Alberta for this suffer series
http://www.canadiandeathrace.com/sinister_triple.php
@kgirlhart my baby sister loves Zombies Run too! She's doing some 5 and 10k event with them next month I think?
@Runningmischka your list of pros is awesome (way to celebrate the day!) and your daughter is beautiful!
@juliet3455 how is your back doing today buddy?
@ctlaws44 I am in love with that medal
. Way to go man!
@HonuNui you didn't run through them for me?!
@skippygirlsmom hold on to your hat but I've actually paid over $300 for a race before . My A race in 2018 will be about $200 after tax.
@PastorVincent guys attempt to pace match me all the time and one of two things happens; either they are way faster than me and are gone in a blink or they fade off within a km or two. I think I'd really running with someone who could accurately pace with me honestly!
Good run this morning for speed work. Half split was (just barely lol) sub 1:40. PRed my 5k at 18:48 but the utter suck of running it that fast made me so damn glad I don't race 5k- I'd wreck myself and I still wouldn't stand a chance of winning
. Competitive female problems hahaha!
Going back and forth over whether or not to throw in for 100 this weekend. I mean, will I even die? LOL
October 1- 28+7
October 2- 18
October 3- 20
October 4- 15
October 5- 18
October 6- Off
October 7- 32
October 8- 18
October 9- 13
October 10- 8
October 11- 12
October 12- Off
October 13- Off
October 14- 86
October 15- Off
October 16- Off
October 17- Off
October 18- 15
October 19- 16
October 20- 17
October 21- 34
October 22- 18
October 23- Off
October 24- 23
398/450km
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PastorVincent wrote: »How in the world do you find time to TRAIN for 100 mile run? I struggle to find time for long runs in the Marathon plans.
um.... most 100 mile training isn't much heavier than marathon training. a lot of plans max out at like 70MPW for a week or 2. A very few max out higher. In reality, with all the hiking, if you can build the cardio for a marathon, you can do a 100 mile... it's a heck of a lot more mental than physical.1 -
@JessicaMcB I don't know if I could get the time to do the triple.... I want to do CDR at some point though, and Sinister 7 looks sweet.0
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JessicaMcB wrote: »@PastorVincent guys attempt to pace match me all the time and one of two things happens; either they are way faster than me and are gone in a blink or they fade off within a km or two. I think I'd really running with someone who could accurately pace with me honestly!
Was not intentional, if she was much faster, or slower, it would not have been an issue. But being just slightly faster, I unconsciously matched her pace. I know female runners have problems with creepy guys and really did not want to be one.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »How in the world do you find time to TRAIN for 100 mile run? I struggle to find time for long runs in the Marathon plans.
um.... most 100 mile training isn't much heavier than marathon training. a lot of plans max out at like 70MPW for a week or 2. A very few max out higher. In reality, with all the hiking, if you can build the cardio for a marathon, you can do a 100 mile... it's a heck of a lot more mental than physical.
I do 50 MPW now in my "off season" - but the problem is the long run. So for a slowpoke like me, running 20-25 miles means planing at least 4-5 hours gone from a day. That is hard to find.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »How in the world do you find time to TRAIN for 100 mile run? I struggle to find time for long runs in the Marathon plans.
um.... most 100 mile training isn't much heavier than marathon training. a lot of plans max out at like 70MPW for a week or 2. A very few max out higher. In reality, with all the hiking, if you can build the cardio for a marathon, you can do a 100 mile... it's a heck of a lot more mental than physical.
I do 50 MPW now in my "off season" - but the problem is the long run. So for a slowpoke like me, running 20-25 miles means planing at least 4-5 hours gone from a day. That is hard to find.
Is getting up earlier on long run day a possibility? I train slightly above where most people will mileage wise and I find it easier against 3AM to log substantial miles before anyone is even awake and needing me. I feel like ultra training is doable for more people than we realize if they are willing to suffer a little (and that willingness is helpful for the suffer fest of race day ) 1 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »How in the world do you find time to TRAIN for 100 mile run? I struggle to find time for long runs in the Marathon plans.
um.... most 100 mile training isn't much heavier than marathon training. a lot of plans max out at like 70MPW for a week or 2. A very few max out higher. In reality, with all the hiking, if you can build the cardio for a marathon, you can do a 100 mile... it's a heck of a lot more mental than physical.
I do 50 MPW now in my "off season" - but the problem is the long run. So for a slowpoke like me, running 20-25 miles means planing at least 4-5 hours gone from a day. That is hard to find.
Is getting up earlier on long run day a possibility? I train slightly above where most people will mileage wise and I find it easier against 3AM to log substantial miles before anyone is even awake and needing me. I feel like ultra training is doable for more people than we realize if they are willing to suffer a little (and that willingness is helpful for the suffer fest of race day )
This is pretty much it for me. a 24 mile run will take me around 5-6 hours, with hiking hills, going ultra mode. in reality, I know a guy who has completed several 100 mile races on 35mpw....0 -
@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety
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JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
LOL... that's because you're competitive... us mere mortals are mostly just going for a finish....2 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
hah! I mean I can probably WALK a 100miles, but run it? I would think I would want at least a 50mile run under my belt... and that is almost twice as far as my PR for distance (27.2).
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10/1 rest
10/2 5.5miles 50m:22s
10/3 5miles 45m:30s
10/4 9miles 1h:24m:02s
10/5 6miles 55:m:30s
10/6 11miles 1h:45m:40s
10/7 4miles 38m:39s
10/8 rest
10/9 6.56miles 61m:30s
10/10 5miles 47m:01s
10/11 7miles 1h:06m:10s
10/12 4.42miles 48m:00s
10/13 12miles 1h:53m:24s
10/14 5miles 48m:31s
10/15 rest
10/16 5.8miles 55m:37s
10/17 7miles 64m:13s
10/18 9miles 1h:20m:51s
10/19 5miles 46m:17s
10/20 12miles 1h:51m:25s
10/21 5miles 48m
10/22 rest
10/23 6.6miles 1h:01m:37s
10/24 5miles 50m:35s
Felt like I was dragging lead weights for legs... so a slow run with a bit of walking. I think I’ll go to bed early tonight. Today is a sad day for us.
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PastorVincent wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
hah! I mean I can probably WALK a 100miles, but run it? I would think I would want at least a 50mile run under my belt... and that is almost twice as far as my PR for distance (27.2).
A lot of 100 mile runs have a 20min/mile pace cut off.... of course that includes Aide Station stops, etc... There's a reaso they are called endurance races, unless you're a top competitor, it's all about avoiding the DNF and that's it.3 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
hah! I mean I can probably WALK a 100miles, but run it? I would think I would want at least a 50mile run under my belt... and that is almost twice as far as my PR for distance (27.2).
A lot of 100 mile runs have a 20min/mile pace cut off.... of course that includes Aide Station stops, etc... There's a reaso they are called endurance races, unless you're a top competitor, it's all about avoiding the DNF and that's it.
I doubt many people actually RUN the whole length of a 100 mile race.....1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
hah! I mean I can probably WALK a 100miles, but run it? I would think I would want at least a 50mile run under my belt... and that is almost twice as far as my PR for distance (27.2).
A lot of 100 mile runs have a 20min/mile pace cut off.... of course that includes Aide Station stops, etc... There's a reaso they are called endurance races, unless you're a top competitor, it's all about avoiding the DNF and that's it.
Did you find that people stopped for long at the Aide Stations at Duluth? Were they hella cool? I meant to ask you that the other day! LSU100 plays up their Aide as a selling point and I think that is super cool but I also spent all of maybe 1 minute all in at Aide for all of Whistler.0 -
girlinahat wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »@MNLittleFinn the thought of trying to go into a 100 miler competitively on 35 mpw is giving me anxiety lol
hah! I mean I can probably WALK a 100miles, but run it? I would think I would want at least a 50mile run under my belt... and that is almost twice as far as my PR for distance (27.2).
A lot of 100 mile runs have a 20min/mile pace cut off.... of course that includes Aide Station stops, etc... There's a reaso they are called endurance races, unless you're a top competitor, it's all about avoiding the DNF and that's it.
I doubt many people actually RUN the whole length of a 100 mile race.....
Yeah basically only the elites will run the whole thing continuously because they are animals 1
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