October 2017 Running Challenge
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Well @MNLittleFinn according to Garmin you'd destroy me on the full
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PastorVincent wrote: »
So I am curious about this as my results too are way over estimated. Do I have a setting incorrect such as my HR? My Zones? etc. Or is this just the way it is?
Well Garmin says...For the most accurate estimate, complete the user profile setup , and set your maximum heart rate.
Your device uses the VO2 max. estimate and published data sources to provide a target race time based on your current state of fitness. This projection also presumes you have completed the proper training for the race.
So there you go. Now you know. Oh how does it get VO2 you ask? Well...VO2 max. is the maximum volume of oxygen (in milliliters) you can consume per minute per kilogram of body weight at your maximum performance. In simple terms, VO2 max. is an indication of athletic performance and should increase as your level of fitness improves. The Forerunner® device requires wrist-based heart rate or a compatible chest heart rate monitor to display your VO2 max. estimate. The device has separate VO2 max. estimates for running and cycling. You must run either outside with GPS or ride with a compatible power meter at a moderate level of intensity for several minutes to get an accurate VO2 max. estimate.
VO2 max. data and analysis is provided with permission from The Cooper Institute®. For more information, see the appendix, and go to www.CooperInstitute.org.
So does that clear it up?
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PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »
So I am curious about this as my results too are way over estimated. Do I have a setting incorrect such as my HR? My Zones? etc. Or is this just the way it is?
Well Garmin says...For the most accurate estimate, complete the user profile setup , and set your maximum heart rate.
Your device uses the VO2 max. estimate and published data sources to provide a target race time based on your current state of fitness. This projection also presumes you have completed the proper training for the race.
So there you go. Now you know. Oh how does it get VO2 you ask? Well...VO2 max. is the maximum volume of oxygen (in milliliters) you can consume per minute per kilogram of body weight at your maximum performance. In simple terms, VO2 max. is an indication of athletic performance and should increase as your level of fitness improves. The Forerunner® device requires wrist-based heart rate or a compatible chest heart rate monitor to display your VO2 max. estimate. The device has separate VO2 max. estimates for running and cycling. You must run either outside with GPS or ride with a compatible power meter at a moderate level of intensity for several minutes to get an accurate VO2 max. estimate.
VO2 max. data and analysis is provided with permission from The Cooper Institute®. For more information, see the appendix, and go to www.CooperInstitute.org.
So does that clear it up?
Um sure...Makes complete sense now ...I wasn’t measuring in milliliters!1 -
Also IF I ever get to the predicted times for HM or Full as stated today, it will only then adjust my estimates to even more crazy numbers that I will say are inconceivable That said, If in two years I am running a 3:15 Full I will believe everything and anything my garmin wishes tells me. 1
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So for kicks, Iooked at my HR data for the last year in Apple Health. My highest recorded HR is 212! So I guess that is probably my "real" max heart rate?0
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Ummmm so... between the process that running currently is -ankle brace, no treadmill, stop if it even niggles, etc orders still in place... schedule... and the fact that running buddy and I are fair weather runners at best, and she is single momming it currently with a hubby in ND... so we are fair weather runners with a good excuse now (not dragging little kids out in this, right???) yeah, not even going to make the pitiful 15 mile goal....
but...in other news... Bench 5x5@100, squat 5x5 @ 115, and deadlift 5x5 @185 (this means I have a bodyweight+ lift even at my current, fluffier, non running weight!!!) So, not running, but I have been doing stuffs, kind of.
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6.7 night time miles on urban trails while my son had basketball practice. This was a solo run so my rest day tomorrow will likely turn into a 4 or 5 mile run to get Kody some work.
The worst part of the run was when I went to take a shower. I wasn't careful taking off my tights and ended up ripping them. Dangit!!! Off to find another pair!
81.9 miles out of a 110 mile goal2 -
October 27th — 4.25 miles
October 28th — off
October 29th — skipped planned long run to go shopping with my Mom (totally worth skipping a run)
October 30th — 4.14 miles
October total 72.46/75 miles
So I skipped another long run (for me this means 90 minutes or longer), but I got to hang out with my Mom so it was worth it. Very close to my mileage goal, but meeting it requires either running after dark tomorrow on Halloween and potentially scaring kids with my stompy clomping or running on the treadmill for 2.54 miles and neither sounds particularly appealing. So it looks like I’ll probably miss my goal by about 2.5 miles. I’m okay with that.
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October Goal met: got thru the Aim At Melanoma run without losing it.....
10/1 rest
10/2 4.20
10/3 4.10
10/4 5.30
10/5 rest
10/6 4.40
10/7 6.10
10/8
10/9
10/11
10/12
10/13
10/14 3.1
10/15 6.50
10/16 snorkel 6 hours
10/17 rest
10/18 9.75
10/19 4.43
10/20 4.33
10/21 rest
10/22 5.06
10/23 5.75
10/24 rest
10/25 5.81
10/26 3.50
10/27 just couldn't
10/28 7.12
10/29 4.50
10/30 3.20
10/31 no run tomorrow 'cause I'll be dodging sharks and fishermen....
Total: 87.15
@WandaVaughn I'm so sorry to hear about your friend...my condolences.
@7lenny7 : thanks for the Kody medal pic-my day is complete!
@othersupthere ..... happy birthdays, and PR congrats and awesome bling pics....and stuff that I'm too lazy to go back and look up....
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
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October 2017
08 Oct – 4 km
10 Oct – 5.6 km
15 Oct - Melbourne Half Marathon Run 4 Refugees – 21.1 km
19 Oct – 3 km
21 Oct – 10.6 km including Ballarat parkrun
24 Oct – 9 km
26 Oct – 10.3 km
27 Oct – 5 km Hawaiians Love S.P.A.M.
28 Oct – 5 km parkrun
29 Oct – 13 km
31 Oct – 6.7 km
Total: 93 km
Goal: Complete upcoming events.
Oct 14 – Hawaiians Love S.P.A.M. (Skin Protection Against Melanoma) Virtual 5K Walk/Run. DONE!
Oct 15 – Melbourne Half Marathon Run 4 Refugees – 21.1 km. DONE!
Nov 5 – The Bloody Long Walk 35 km
T'was a good month, event-wise, if not distance-wise.
Did parkrun at 3 different venues, plus will do another different one this coming Saturday.2 -
so I'm at 55.5 miles out of 60 for the month....
right now I'm wondering whether I have it in me to double dip and put in the 4.5miles tonight to reach the goal.
having set the clocks back last weekend it's now dark when I get home and cold and ra-ra-ra-ra-ra.......1 -
@dudasd1973 - shoes have a way of jumping in my bag and even more so in my online shopping cart. It’s a mystery.
I've become way too friendly with the UPS man. Wait ... not like that.
@7lenny7 - That’s so great about your son doing a DUNK! Awesome. And only in 10th grade! Oh, nice run and pictures! Kody.
@wandavaughn - Earlier this year a running friend (47) and a cycling friend (50) both had heart attacks within a month of each other. It freaked me out because they were both in pretty good shape. So I went to cardiologist to get checked out and I was fine. I'm sure they wrote "hypochondriac" on my file when I explained I was there because 2 friends had heart attacks.
Last run with Benny, the Golden, this morning. He goes home tonight. Son and DIL arrive back from their vacation in Ireland. It was fun running with him after about .5 miles. He gets so excited that he pulls at first but then we were in a groove. And the weather this morning!!! 50F and absolutely perfect.
10/1 - 33 miles cycling; 1 mile run
10/2 - rest day
10/3 - 5.6 miles - birthday run!
10/4 - strength training
10/5 - 3.5 cut short by rain.
10/6 - strength training
10/7 - 44 miles cycling
10/8 - 45 miles cycling
10/9 - 4 miles
10/10 - strength training
10/11 - 4 miles
10/12 - Strength training - tabatas - push ups/pull ups/sit ups and wall squats
10/13 - rest day
10/14 - 9 miles on bike - rained out… AIM at Melanoma 5K!
10/15 - 48 miles cycling
10/16 - 3 miles
10/17 - rest day/surgery
10/18 - 4.3 miles
10/19 - 4.1 sluggish miles
10/20 - strength training
10/21 - 43 miles cycling
10/22 - 66 miles cycling — 1 short of 100 for the weekend!
10/23 - 3.7 miles
10/24 - 4 miles + strength training/tabatas
10/25 - 4.1 miles
10/26 - 5 miles
10/27 - let’s make it a rest day!
10/28 - 53 miles cycling
10/29 - 4 miles with grandDog
10/30 - 4 miles with grandDog
10/31 - 4 miles with grandDog - he goes home tonight.
NYC Central Park - Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K - 11/4
I/ITSEC 5K in Orlando - 11/29
Daytona Beach HM - 2/4/192 -
@dudasd1973 - shoes have a way of jumping in my bag and even more so in my online shopping cart. It’s a mystery. I've become way too friendly with the UPS man. Wait ... not like that.
ah, maybe you can answer something then ......so UPS have trademarked the colour brown it seems, and their uniform including socks is brown. So, er, is ALL of their clothing brown I want to know? I'm too scared to ask the UPS man but since you have such a CLOSE relationship..... 2 -
Final tally for October is 85 miles. Very happy with my progress. Goal for November will be 95 miles and I've signed up for an 8 mile Turkey Trot.
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1/10-6.5
2/10-10.1 (longest run to date, first time in double figures!)
3/10-REST
4/10-3.1 (running club)
5/10-6.0
6/10- T25 workout
7/10-5.2 (parkrun)
8/10-5.0
9/10-REST
10/10-4.5
11/10-7.2 (running club)
12/10-4.5
13/10-6.6
14/10-5.6
15/10-REST
16/10-6.5
17/10-4.0
18/10-3.4
19/10-REST
20/10-5.1
21/10-3.4 (parkrun)
22/10-1.2 (parkrun with daughter) & 6.8
23/10-REST
24/10-3.4
25/10-5.1
26/10-8.5
27/10-REST
28/10-5.8 (Race - beachy head 10k)
29/10-6.4 (Race - Crawley 10k)
30/10-REST
31/10-5.6
Total - 129.2/120 Miles
Yay I met my goal!!2 -
@PastorVincent , it's normal for a Garmin GPS watch to take a long time to acquire satellites for the first time or at a new location. You should see that the next time will be much quicker (it also helps to stay still until acquisition is complete). If you use it at least every few days, and also let it sync (so that keeps the lockup tables for satellites up-to-date), as long as you run in the same area, it should only take 10 seconds or so in the future. Whenever I travel overseas, I try to remember to get a new GPS lock at the first opportunity (that also automatically puts me in the correct time zone), I don't like standing infront of my hotel at 6am waiting for my GPS watch to get a signal
I'd like to hear about your HRM experience - that, and the reduced weight, would be two reasons that could tempt me to upgrade from my no-HRM Fenix 3, although I also like the looks of the Suunto Spartan Sport series...0 -
tomaattikastike wrote: »@PastorVincent I'd like to hear about your HRM experience - that, and the reduced weight, would be two reasons that could tempt me to upgrade from my no-HRM Fenix 3, although I also like the looks of the Suunto Spartan Sport series...
I have spoken at length in another month running challenge thread about the optical wrist-based heart rate monitors. I will summarize...
1) If worn properly (snug against skin) they are accurate and trustworthy.
2) If worn in such a way as they can move around or wiggle while you run - they will give bad readings and be untrustworthy
3) Big disadvantage they have is in cold weather you have to put your clothing layers over the watch making it hard to look at while you run - because the optical sensor must sit flush against your flesh. Garmin 935 has spoken prompts which should mitigate this issue, once I figure out how to get them working.
I think that about covers it.0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »tomaattikastike wrote: »@PastorVincent I'd like to hear about your HRM experience - that, and the reduced weight, would be two reasons that could tempt me to upgrade from my no-HRM Fenix 3, although I also like the looks of the Suunto Spartan Sport series...
I have spoken at length in another month running challenge thread about the optical wrist-based heart rate monitors. I will summarize...
1) If worn properly (snug against skin) they are accurate and trustworthy.
2) If worn in such a way as they can move around or wiggle while you run - they will give bad readings and be untrustworthy
3) Big disadvantage they have is in cold weather you have to put your clothing layers over the watch making it hard to look at while you run - because the optical sensor must sit flush against your flesh. Garmin 935 has spoken prompts which should mitigate this issue, once I figure out how to get them working.
I think that about covers it.
That's why I switch over to my chest HRM in the winter. Only time I really wear it. I like being able to see my watch, since I pretty much hate anything talking at me while I run, except other runners.0 -
Not that I'm doing much cardio but what's up with this recovery heart rate?
Once in a while my Garmin says recovery heart rate is 85bpm. That's the HR I'm looking for when I wake up, right? Awfully high since my resting rate is 55ish. I can't say I've ever seen it that high. So what am I missing?0 -
Not that I'm doing much cardio but what's up with this recovery heart rate?
Once in a while my Garmin says recovery heart rate is 85bpm. That's the HR I'm looking for when I wake up, right? Awfully high since my resting rate is 55ish. I can't say I've ever seen it that high. So what am I missing?
recovery HR is just the HR the garmin records 3 minutes after you finish a workout. I don't know what it's used for.2 -
10/1 rest
10/2 5.5miles 50m:22s
10/3 5miles 45m:30s
10/4 9miles 1h:24m:02s
10/5 6miles 55:m:30s
10/6 11miles 1h:45m:40s
10/7 4miles 38m:39s
10/8 rest
10/9 6.56miles 61m:30s
10/10 5miles 47m:01s
10/11 7miles 1h:06m:10s
10/12 4.42miles 48m:00s
10/13 12miles 1h:53m:24s
10/14 5miles 48m:31s
10/15 rest
10/16 5.8miles 55m:37s
10/17 7miles 64m:13s
10/18 9miles 1h:20m:51s
10/19 5miles 46m:17s
10/20 12miles 1h:51m:25s
10/21 5miles 48m
10/22 rest
10/23 6.6miles 1h:01m:37s
10/24 5miles 50m:35s
10/25 7miles 1h:07m:32s
10/26 4miles 38m:44s
10/27 14miles!!! 2h:11m:18s
10/28 5miles 46m:50s
10/29 rest
10/30 7miles 1h:01m:49s
10/31 7miles 1h:04m:31s
A easy 7 this morning. Chilly, but great for running.
This puts me at 179.88miles for the month- 6.88miles over my goal! Definitely a monthly mileage PR!1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »Not that I'm doing much cardio but what's up with this recovery heart rate?
Once in a while my Garmin says recovery heart rate is 85bpm. That's the HR I'm looking for when I wake up, right? Awfully high since my resting rate is 55ish. I can't say I've ever seen it that high. So what am I missing?
recovery HR is just the HR the garmin records 3 minutes after you finish a workout. I don't know what it's used for.
It is a measure of how fast you recover after a strenuous workout:If you are training with wrist-based heart rate or a compatible chest heart rate monitor, you can check your recovery heart rate value after each activity. Recovery heart rate is the difference between your exercising heart rate and your heart rate two minutes after the exercise has stopped. For example, after a typical training run, you stop the timer. Your heart rate is 140 bpm. After two minutes of no activity or cool down, your heart rate is 90 bpm. Your recovery heart rate is 50 bpm (140 minus 90). Some studies have linked recovery heart rate to cardiac health. Higher numbers generally indicate healthier hearts.
TIP: For best results, you should stop moving for two minutes while the device calculates your recovery heart rate value. You can save or discard the activity after this value appears.2 -
That's weird because mine [pops a recovery time within seconds of completing an activity.0
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Recovery time and recovery HR are 2 different metrics with the forerunners. Recovery time gives you an estimate of how long it will take your body to recover from your workout.... Recovery HR is what @PastorVincent listed above, though I never actually looked that up before he posted it...he's more inquisitive than me.dudasd1973 wrote: »That's weird because mine [pops a recovery time within seconds of completing an activity.
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10/1 - rest (walk)
10/2 - rest (yoga)
10/3 - 4.1km
10/4 - cross training (workout dvd)
10/5 - 4.8km + a really wimpy strength workout
10/6 - rest
10/7 - 4.0 km
10/8 - cross training (walk)
10/9 - yoga
10/10 - 6.0 km
10/11 - rest
10/12 - 4.0 km
10/13 - rest
10/14 - 6.1 km
10/15 - rest
10/16 - rest
10/17 - unplanned rest (weather apocalypse)
10/18 - 5.1 km
10/19 - rest
10/20 - 4.0 km
10/21 - rest (travel)
10/22 - rest
10/23 - rest
10/24 - 5.5km Dreadmill
10/25 - rest
10/26 - rest
10/27 - rest
10/28 - 7.6 km
10/29 - rest
10/30 - rest
10/31 - 4.1 km
Total 49.2/55 km
Dragged myself out of bed and went for a 6 AM run before work. The snow was just starting to pick up as I got back home. I wore too heavy of a top layer and forgot my gloves, so too cold and too hot at the same time. It was one of those runs where I feel like a total badass while I'm out there thanks to a good soundtrack on spotify so all in all I'd call it a success.
Now there's almost 2" of snow on the ground so I'm glad I went when I did!
Upcoming Races:
9/24 Heartbeat Run 10K 1:24:44 (11.1km)
1/1/18 Resolution Run 5K
4/8/18 Jasper Half Marathon
8/18/18 Edmonton Marathon 10K
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Date Miles today - Miles for October
10/1 REST DAY
10/2 8 miles - 8
10/3 9 miles - 17
10/4 4 miles - 21
10/5 9 miles - 30
10/6 4 miles - 34
10/7 12 miles - 46
10/8 REST DAY
10/9 REST DAY
10/10 10 miles - 56
10/11 REST DAY (alarm never went off and work was busy all day)
10/12 9.5 miles - 65.5
10/13-18 REST DAYs
10/19 7.5 miles - 73.1
10/20-23 more non running
10/24 6.2 miles - 79.3
10/25 6.2 miles - 85.5
10/26 9.5 miles - 95
10/27 6.2 miles - 101.2
10/28 10.5 miles 111.7
10/29 REST DAY
10/30 8 miles - One Nineteen point seven
10/31 8.5 miles - 128.2
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (unofficial) - 1/21 << 1:46:48 2 OA
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (rescheduled) - 2/18 << 1:41:04 1 in AG & 24 OA
Kentucky Derby Festival Marathon - 4/29 << 4:09:59
Upcoming races:
Oak Barrel Half Marathon - 4/7/18
Well short of my goal for the month, again. Onto November.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »
Recovery time and recovery HR are 2 different metrics with the forerunners. Recovery time gives you an estimate of how long it will take your body to recover from your workout.... Recovery HR is what @PastorVincent listed above, though I never actually looked that up before he posted it...he's more inquisitive than me.dudasd1973 wrote: »That's weird because mine [pops a recovery time within seconds of completing an activity.
AHHHHH, nuances of reading what is written properly 1 -
No run today. My psoriasis is giving me a difficult time especially when it comes to sleeping. I have not slept well in a week. I am giving in and making an appointment with my dermatologist to get some relief. Worst month in quite some time. Looking forward to November.
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@cburke8909 I hope you get relief. My husband has it too and it has also flared up with the drier weather. In true male fashion, he won't see the dermatologist.0
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Update on my running friend (who did not die!) - He had 100% blockage of the circumflex artery. They put a stent in yesterday and he should be able to go home today.
Somebody mentioned a McMullen Mile race or some such? McMullen was my maiden name. I don't see that name much around here. 5
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