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Dr Jason Fung - The Useless Concept of Calories
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There is some guy who has a blog and says he cured his cancer with green juice. He says he was diagnosed, refused treatment, drank this specific green juice blend, and went back to the doctor and got confirmation he was cancer free. But here's the thing - he's a random guy on the internet. I don't know if anything he said was true (though based on my limited knowledge about cancer and nutrition, I feel pretty confident it's not). So if a woman who had cancer and was working with specialists at a cancer center was posting that green juice does not cure cancer, and posting links to the American Cancer Society debunking the green juice cure, I wouldn't argue with her based on this random dudes blog and suggest people just give a try.
And I'd like to whole-heartedly participate in the re-rehijacking, so...
Reminds me of this
http://time.com/4960515/australia-belle-gibson-fined-lying-cancer/1 -
There is some guy who has a blog and says he cured his cancer with green juice. He says he was diagnosed, refused treatment, drank this specific green juice blend, and went back to the doctor and got confirmation he was cancer free. But here's the thing - he's a random guy on the internet. I don't know if anything he said was true (though based on my limited knowledge about cancer and nutrition, I feel pretty confident it's not). So if a woman who had cancer and was working with specialists at a cancer center was posting that green juice does not cure cancer, and posting links to the American Cancer Society debunking the green juice cure, I wouldn't argue with her based on this random dudes blog and suggest people just give a try.
And I'd like to whole-heartedly participate in the re-rehijacking, so...
Cancer: Spontaneous remission is a thing. A rare thing. The ones who drank the kool-aid . . . er, the green juice, and died anyway? They don't write blogs.
Signed,
Happy 17-year survivor of advanced cancer, thanks to Big Pharma's "poison" chemotherapy
Oh, and also a vegetarian, so I'll throw in this contribution in lieu of kebab . . . or for alongside:
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stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
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Perfect!2 -
So combining all topics (well, meatfree eating and doner kebabs), I decided to try to find a photo of Donermen (which I still have not gone to), and instead found them thanking Chicago's Christkindlmarket for tweeting about them (yes, we are in an era where Christkindlmarkets tweet). After my search of a photo of them at the market failed (Donermen Christmas brings up lots of Dobermans in Christmas sweaters, which is its own special thing), I happened upon this review of Donermen at Chi City Vegan:
http://www.thechicityvegan.com/2015/02/guest-post-5-donermen-food-truck.html
"As we approached the Christkindlmarket on the day before Thanksgiving for our annual gluhwein treat, my partner asked me what I was going to eat at the market. “French fries, fried potatoes, and maybe some potato pancakes if they don’t have egg,” I said. I said it with a poke and wink, but I wasn’t entirely joking. We like to go to festival/fair events, but the vegan pickings are typically slim, and often the potato is all that stands between me and starvation.
Time Out Chicago had ranked the eleven best things to eat or buy at the Christkindlmarket, including one food booth’s curry wurst. The words “curry” and “sausage” are like catnip to my partner, so he beelined for it while I took care of the alcohol purchase. When he returned, wurst in hand, he said, “Guess what they have?”
And that is how I discovered Dönermen, a food truck, caterer, and events booth. They are inspired by, and indeed named after, traditional Turkish/German meat kebabs, or döner. However, from the beginning, they’ve offered a vegan sausage, which they can use in any of their dishes.
For Shawn Podgurski, the CEO of Dönermen, the option was prompted by personal experience. He’d had a number of vegan friends, and found that it was often challenging for them to find good food options when they were out and about. Those friends also noted to him that it would be such a simple fix for places to offer vegan fare, so when he began his food truck, the direction seemed clear. With the limited space of a food truck, Shawn figured out ways to minimize the amount of product he needs to produce. For example, rather than having a curry that uses animal broth for the traditional currywurst and a separate one for the vegan druidwurst, they just make one vegan curry sauce, “and we make it really good.”...
At Christkindlmarket, I enjoyed the druidwurst, that is, the vegan version of the currywurst. It was an excellent sausage and I can vouch for the fact that the curry sauce is as delicious as Shawn said. I look forward to visiting the truck sometime, as I’m always delighted to look out for businesses that look out for me."
I may have to go get a druidwurst at Christkindlmarket this year.4 -
I'm surprised that you've got the word Christkindlmarket.0
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(I picked quite a thread to reappear in, right?
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I always assumed that it was because Chicago historically has a large German population (my own neighborhood used to be largely German), but apparently the tradition is much newer. http://www.christkindlmarket.com/history-tradition/
"Chicago’s Christkindlmarket was first conceptualized in 1995. The German American Chamber of Commerce of the Midwest Inc. (GACC Midwest) was seeking alternative ways to promote bilateral trade between the USA and Germany. Peter Flatzek, former Vice President of GACC Midwest, and Ray Lotter, then Manager of Commercial Services for GACC Midwest, initiated the partnership with city officials of Nuremberg, Germany. Mr. Lotter invited companies from Germany and the Chicago area to participate in the first Christkindlmarket Chicago in 1996. The market was an instant success and continues to flourish through the work of GACC Midwest’s subsidiary, German American Events, LLC."
I was here in '96, but somehow did not register/remember that it was new then.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »It's a way of trying to stop responses, or I guess just letting a few hash it out without subjecting everyone else to it. It should just be closed.
Agreed.
Closed, yes, but not deleted.
It has always infuriated me how MFP would (at least used to) nuke threads full of heartfelt, insightful posts so the same topic would consistently reappear later where everyone started from square one again. I understand the business implications...and how the effort to clean a thread like this would be resource expensive...but infuriating nonetheless.
(Maybe things are different now though. There's a mod actually engaged in this thread and it still lives, so I have hope.)0 -
How is someone who doesn't have BED, claiming he cured his overeating which is not BED with LC and IF, helpful to people who have BED??? For the millionth time, BED is not a problem with overeating, it is a psychological disorder. I honestly am not sure if you are being purposefully argumentative, or are just ignoring the stuff you don't want to acknowledge.
No one here is disagreeing with the idea that some people who have chronically overeaten can improve by doing LC or IF. I wholly support someone who struggles to eat the right calories to try LC or IF, they are legit ways of eating and help many people. I have slowly wandered into IF myself on and off.
I do not support someone claiming an undiagnosed ED and then preaching the cure. That's it. That is literally all we were saying, before you tried to turn Gale's argument into fighting the good fight for low-carb.
Gale has alternately claimed all sorts of things have "cured" him of various health ailments he thinks cause his weight problems. Including some protein granules he spent several months spamming the forum about. Now he is saying it was BED cured by LCHF. Whatever, I'm out. I'm going to go to sleep and have nightmares about Fung
For the millionth time, I talked about a lady with diagnosed BED being helped with IF! Why do you ignore what I say? I'm not a low carber. I don't like that WOE. Doesn't mean it can't help some people. And I didn't say it or IF cures people. I said it may help. Are you not interested in something that may help?
Objection, hearsay!8 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
10/10 would eat*
(*minus the lettuce. I really don't like lettuce, especially with hot foods.)0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
10/10 would eat*
(*minus the lettuce. I really don't like lettuce, especially with hot foods.)
Hihi. Ended up braving the snow to go get myself one of those for dinner
+ extra lettuce. I love lettuce! 0 -
I am intrigued by the concept of this druidwurst, even though I doubt I could eat it with my stupid food sensitivities. That's awesome of that food truck to provide for a niche customer base like that, though.1
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
10/10 would eat*
(*minus the lettuce. I really don't like lettuce, especially with hot foods.)
10/10 would eat that, minus the meat!1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I am intrigued by the concept of this druidwurst, even though I doubt I could eat it with my stupid food sensitivities. That's awesome of that food truck to provide for a niche customer base like that, though.
I'll report back (I suspect it does have gluten).0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I am intrigued by the concept of this druidwurst, even though I doubt I could eat it with my stupid food sensitivities. That's awesome of that food truck to provide for a niche customer base like that, though.
I'll report back (I suspect it does have gluten).
Most vegan meat subs are either gluten or soy based. I can't have either. Cue sad trombone music.
There's a very limited range of meat sub products that I can eat and I really only use one of them. It's made with pea protein.
It's a shame, because I really do love tofu. I was looking at that picture Kimny posted and thinking how tasty that pineapple kebab skewer would be with marinated tofu. Sadly, no can do.2 -
I didn't realize you couldn't do soy. That's a hassle.1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I didn't realize you couldn't do soy. That's a hassle.
It took me a while to realize it, but yeah.
And I love edamame so.
Soy is more an intolerance that has very sad consequences for me.
I'm beginning to come to the same conclusion about tree nuts, but I'm kicking and screaming on that one.2 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
10/10 would eat*
(*minus the lettuce. I really don't like lettuce, especially with hot foods.)
The crunchy freshness adds to it, really. You should try.1 -
stevencloser wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
Okay.. lets recap the conversation, okay?
We we are all in here talking about donairs and kebabs and stuff.
Can we go back to that?
10/10 would eat*
(*minus the lettuce. I really don't like lettuce, especially with hot foods.)
The crunchy freshness adds to it, really. You should try.
Have tried. And I understand why it should work in theory. But in practice, the lettuce is so often wilted by the heat that I just automatically forego it entirely.1
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