Can you really eat whatever you want?
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It really is about how much and not as
much as what of. I went very low carb for a very long time but ate a lot of calorie dense fat (not saying fat is bad aha) but
dropped little. I now eat an abundance of carbs and other things within my limit
and I'm losing... happily
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For a recent potluck, I made mac'n'cheese that had 366 calories per serving (9x13" cake dish, cut 10), 19g protein (no meat BTW), 8g fiber, 82% RDA of vitamin A, . . . and I could go on with the nutrition. My non-weight-conscious friends loved it, judged by consumption, not just compliments. If eating that is wrong, I don’t want to be right.
@AnnPT77 would you mind posting your recipe in the Recipe section please. That sounds like something I’d like to make. Thanks!
I don't really use recipes, I just cook. I did put this in recipe builder, which is how I know the nutrients. I've PM-ed you the ingredient list. Hope that's an OK substitute. 3 -
Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?4 -
counting_kilojoules wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »I guess I could have said that it MIGHT not be healthy dependent on your diet but the point rings pretty much the same. Nitpicking over nothing.
Nitpicking over nothing? C'mon. You've been here since 2012. Surely you've seen the daily messages. "OMG, I just ate xxx and now I'll never lose weight." "My family avoids all sodium bicarbonate because it's used to strip paint and I don't want it in my body." (I'm not making that one up. I wonder about that woman sometimes during holiday baking season.) "I only eat chicken, broccoli, and cauliflower but I keep falling off the wagon. HALP!!" It's not nothing to say that a sustainable and healthy diet can include foods that aren't traditionally considered healthy. We all see too many people asking about it every day to consider it nothing.
I've had an account since 2012. I don't look at emails and I've literally never used the message boards or looked at them before two days ago. My friends were all people I know who just use this to log. C'mon.
Before I start posting in a new community I read a couple of weeks worth of posts first. Just to get a feel for the community and the types of things people are likely to say. Otherwise you risk coming across rather tone deaf through lack of knowledge even though your intent was to be helpful.
I'm so sorry I had THE GALL to comment on a thread that I didn't spend hours back tracking through first. Geez. I can't believe the fuss y'all are making about saying "probably shouldn't." [eyeroll]
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I started looking at the message boards as a potential community & support but I swear every one just jumps on every little thing you say that sounds wrong or isn't 100% clear.1
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WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.9 -
Jackibrazil wrote: »counting_kilojoules wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »I guess I could have said that it MIGHT not be healthy dependent on your diet but the point rings pretty much the same. Nitpicking over nothing.
Nitpicking over nothing? C'mon. You've been here since 2012. Surely you've seen the daily messages. "OMG, I just ate xxx and now I'll never lose weight." "My family avoids all sodium bicarbonate because it's used to strip paint and I don't want it in my body." (I'm not making that one up. I wonder about that woman sometimes during holiday baking season.) "I only eat chicken, broccoli, and cauliflower but I keep falling off the wagon. HALP!!" It's not nothing to say that a sustainable and healthy diet can include foods that aren't traditionally considered healthy. We all see too many people asking about it every day to consider it nothing.
I've had an account since 2012. I don't look at emails and I've literally never used the message boards or looked at them before two days ago. My friends were all people I know who just use this to log. C'mon.
Before I start posting in a new community I read a couple of weeks worth of posts first. Just to get a feel for the community and the types of things people are likely to say. Otherwise you risk coming across rather tone deaf through lack of knowledge even though your intent was to be helpful.
I'm so sorry I had THE GALL to comment on a thread that I didn't spend hours back tracking through first. Geez. I can't believe the fuss y'all are making about saying "probably shouldn't." [eyeroll]
You can say anything you like. You might not like the response. It's entirely up to you.5 -
Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
Why would hfcs be incredibly unhealthy?1 -
HFC is thought to enhance the appetite, therefore, it's why it is put in commercially prepared foods.
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I started my weight loss journey/life style change in about April. I did really well for the first few months through sticking to 1,200 calories a day, regular walks/jogs and low carbs.
But I fell of the wagon over summer when I went backpacking and struggled to sort myself out when I got back...but I'm now on week 2 back at it!
Is that all you have been eating? That is lower than my basal metabolic rate (bmr), which is the amount of calories I need to eat just to function with no extra activity, etc. You need to work out your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) and work out how many lbs per week you need to lose. If you use the MFP way, then you need to eat back the exercise calories on top of the 1200, because that is the lowest a woman should be eating to lose or maintain. Even then a slightly active small female would need way more than 1200 to maintain...
You are hungry cos you need more food. Also low carb does not help you lose weight any faster (maybe water weight/glycogen stores, but not actual fat, unless you are really, really lean already, but that is another topic altogether)....
Long story short, you can eat whatever you like so long as you hit your calories and macros for the day. Protein and fat help satiation. For most peeps. Oh and if you try to restrict things you enjoy (cake, chocolate, sweets, crisps, etc) then you are going to crave them and probably binge at some point. Psychology. I have lost almost 30 pounds eating all the things and fitting them into my calorie and macro count.
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OP as others have said, you can indeed eat any food you enjoy, within the context of a calorie deficit, and be successful losing weight. Low carb does not provide long term weight loss advantage, though some people find a quicker initial loss due to water weight/glycogen - but long term it evens out with any other approach. Some people find low carb to be helpful if it helps them adhere to a calorie deficit because they find the food satiating, but it really is a matter of preference.
How much weight are you trying to lose?
What rate of loss did you choose?
What are your stats: height, weight, age?
1200 is the lowest recommended calorie target and it's a NET target meaning that when you exercise, you should be eating more.
Finding an appropriate calorie deficit for your goals may help you not feel so deprived and in addition, may help with preserving lean body mass as you lose weight.
PS I lost >30 lbs and am now a few years into maintenance - we had an appetizer smorgasbord last night for dinner: wings, queso dip, pretzels, etc. No impact on my weight this morning and will not be an issue long term.2 -
HFC is thought to enhance the appetite, therefore, it's why it is put in commercially prepared foods.
It's put in commercially prepared foods because it is super cheap and easier to use in that context than sugar because it's liquid. There's no indication that it's more of an appetite enhancer than sucrose.
I rarely eat anything containing it because they tend not to be as tasty IME as higher quality sweets or home made (yes, I'm a food snob but I'm really not obnoxious off-line, just choosy), but I am highly skeptical of the claim that HFCS is meaningfully different from sugar.
And re sucrose, of course excessive consumption of sweet treats does not make for a good diet, but that doesn't mean a piece of chocolate or occasional bowl of ice cream = excessively unhealthy.10 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »HFC is thought to enhance the appetite, therefore, it's why it is put in commercially prepared foods.
It's put in commercially prepared foods because it is super cheap and easier to use in that context than sugar because it's liquid. There's no indication that it's more of an appetite enhancer than sucrose.
I rarely eat anything containing it because they tend not to be as tasty IME as higher quality sweets or home made (yes, I'm a food snob but I'm really not obnoxious off-line, just choosy), but I am highly skeptical of the claim that HFCS is meaningfully different from sugar.
And re sucrose, of course excessive consumption of sweet treats does not make for a good diet, but that doesn't mean a piece of chocolate or occasional bowl of ice cream = excessively unhealthy.
From a quick search it seems that your skepticism is well placed.
sucrose: 50% glucose and 50% fructose
HFCS: 45% glucose and 55% glucose
It's really nothing more that liquid table sugar with a slight shift in the ration of glucose and fructose. It's just created out of a different raw material than sucrose.
I don't really understand why people feel the need to fear monger about something that is treated in exactly the same way as common table sugar (or heck even starches once those have been broken down to disaccharides) in the small intestines.4 -
Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?3 -
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russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.8 -
counting_kilojoules wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »counting_kilojoules wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »I guess I could have said that it MIGHT not be healthy dependent on your diet but the point rings pretty much the same. Nitpicking over nothing.
Nitpicking over nothing? C'mon. You've been here since 2012. Surely you've seen the daily messages. "OMG, I just ate xxx and now I'll never lose weight." "My family avoids all sodium bicarbonate because it's used to strip paint and I don't want it in my body." (I'm not making that one up. I wonder about that woman sometimes during holiday baking season.) "I only eat chicken, broccoli, and cauliflower but I keep falling off the wagon. HALP!!" It's not nothing to say that a sustainable and healthy diet can include foods that aren't traditionally considered healthy. We all see too many people asking about it every day to consider it nothing.
I've had an account since 2012. I don't look at emails and I've literally never used the message boards or looked at them before two days ago. My friends were all people I know who just use this to log. C'mon.
Before I start posting in a new community I read a couple of weeks worth of posts first. Just to get a feel for the community and the types of things people are likely to say. Otherwise you risk coming across rather tone deaf through lack of knowledge even though your intent was to be helpful.
I'm so sorry I had THE GALL to comment on a thread that I didn't spend hours back tracking through first. Geez. I can't believe the fuss y'all are making about saying "probably shouldn't." [eyeroll]
You can say anything you like. You might not like the response. It's entirely up to you.
I could understand people not liking what I said and presenting an argument, but most of you guys are condescending and patronizing. It's really sad.
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Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Then you had a professor pushing an agenda. HFCS is processed just like any other sugar in the body.5 -
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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Then you had a professor pushing an agenda. HFCS is processed just like any other sugar in the body.
I'd be asking for a class refund.
Prof Lustig has plenty to say in 'Sugar, The Bitter Truth'
Well worth a watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
I would suggest he knows a bit about the subject14 -
Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Ok, so what specifically are you concerned about with HFCS? As mentioned above, it is not significantly different in composition than other types of sugar - it is liquid and fairly cheap to use in mass production - but what are your specific concerns that you think anything with it is inherently unhealthy?
You have gotten pretty defensive about the comments you're receiving but you come onto the boards guns blazing in several threads, making sweeping generalizations and vague insinuations, tout being a "bio major" yet you haven't really delved into any scientific discussions or clarified your stance when people are asking for more details. Telling me that a lecture from freshmen biology is the reason for your perspective on HFCs doesn't actually explain WHY you think it's a concern. And don't worry about getting too technical, I have a chemistry degree.13 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Ok, so what specifically are you concerned about with HFCS? As mentioned above, it is not significantly different in composition than other types of sugar - it is liquid and fairly cheap to use in mass production - but what are your specific concerns that you think anything with it is inherently unhealthy?
You have gotten pretty defensive about the comments you're receiving but you come onto the boards guns blazing in several threads, making sweeping generalizations and vague insinuations, tout being a "bio major" yet you haven't really delved into any scientific discussions or clarified your stance when people are asking for more details. Telling me that a lecture from freshmen biology is the reason for your perspective on HFCs doesn't actually explain WHY you think it's a concern. And don't worry about getting too technical, I have a chemistry degree.
watch the lecture I posted then tell me if you are unconcerned by HFCS
I also have a chemistry degree but that is utterly irrelevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM 13 -
Rickster1967 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Ok, so what specifically are you concerned about with HFCS? As mentioned above, it is not significantly different in composition than other types of sugar - it is liquid and fairly cheap to use in mass production - but what are your specific concerns that you think anything with it is inherently unhealthy?
You have gotten pretty defensive about the comments you're receiving but you come onto the boards guns blazing in several threads, making sweeping generalizations and vague insinuations, tout being a "bio major" yet you haven't really delved into any scientific discussions or clarified your stance when people are asking for more details. Telling me that a lecture from freshmen biology is the reason for your perspective on HFCs doesn't actually explain WHY you think it's a concern. And don't worry about getting too technical, I have a chemistry degree.
watch the lecture I posted then tell me if you are unconcerned by HFCS
I also have a chemistry degree but that is utterly irrelevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
The poster I was responding to has been flouting her educational experience to appeal to authority.
I've watched that video. You should give this a read...
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/9 -
I'm not gonna watch your woo-tastic advocacy video.9
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Rickster1967 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Ok, so what specifically are you concerned about with HFCS? As mentioned above, it is not significantly different in composition than other types of sugar - it is liquid and fairly cheap to use in mass production - but what are your specific concerns that you think anything with it is inherently unhealthy?
You have gotten pretty defensive about the comments you're receiving but you come onto the boards guns blazing in several threads, making sweeping generalizations and vague insinuations, tout being a "bio major" yet you haven't really delved into any scientific discussions or clarified your stance when people are asking for more details. Telling me that a lecture from freshmen biology is the reason for your perspective on HFCs doesn't actually explain WHY you think it's a concern. And don't worry about getting too technical, I have a chemistry degree.
watch the lecture I posted then tell me if you are unconcerned by HFCS
I also have a chemistry degree but that is utterly irrelevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7QXFJNKWXs 4 -
LOL @ LOLstig
LOLstig: Fructose is toxic to the liver like alcohol
Skeptic: But, what about fruit?
LOLstig: Oh, fruit is ok because it has fiber
Skeptic: So I can drink all the alcohol I want to if I just add Metamucil(fiber) to it and it won't damage my liver?
LOLstig: Uh, *derp* next question please10 -
Rickster1967 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »russelljam08 wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Jackibrazil wrote: »Why can't people just drop it already. I'll re-state. If anything means continuously eating unhealthy then you probably shouldn't. My original one line statement was that you can eat anything you want and lose weight as long as you're consuming less than you burn but for health you probably shouldn't. Key word was ANYTHING. Because it's open to interpretation. You probably shouldn't eat just anything you want if it's in excess or incredibly unhealthy.
I didn't really think that statement would be such a huge deal to so many.
If you're eating anything in excess, then it already violates the parameters put forth that a person is within their calories.
Name a food that is incredibly unhealthy?
Pretty much anything containing high-fructose corn syrup is the first thing I think of. I really don't need people to keep trying to make me feel stupid though.
HFCS, what "health" blog or Instagram page did you get this info from? Did they have a PhD in Youtube and a doctorate in social media?
I got it from my freshman year biology class.
Ok, so what specifically are you concerned about with HFCS? As mentioned above, it is not significantly different in composition than other types of sugar - it is liquid and fairly cheap to use in mass production - but what are your specific concerns that you think anything with it is inherently unhealthy?
You have gotten pretty defensive about the comments you're receiving but you come onto the boards guns blazing in several threads, making sweeping generalizations and vague insinuations, tout being a "bio major" yet you haven't really delved into any scientific discussions or clarified your stance when people are asking for more details. Telling me that a lecture from freshmen biology is the reason for your perspective on HFCs doesn't actually explain WHY you think it's a concern. And don't worry about getting too technical, I have a chemistry degree.
watch the lecture I posted then tell me if you are unconcerned by HFCS
What about the video makes you think there's a meaningful difference between HFCS and sugar?
Hint: Lustig would claim sugar is as bad.
Also, the focus on fructose would point the finger at fruit (which Lustig does not do, but people taking his stuff out of context sometimes do), and fruit might well have a similar glucose/fructose breakdown as HFCS in many cases.
The thing that Lustig has a point on is that many children consume diets that are far too high in sugar (and low in other things and high in calories) for health. But the idea that HFCS is uniquely the devil (or that sugar is) lacks any meaningful support, especially if we are talking (as we are) about moderation and in the context of a healthful diet.
If you disagree, I'd like a specific reason as to why HFCS (and not sugar) is very bad for you within the context of a healthy and calorie appropriate diet.5 -
Also, I took college biology (and AP bio in high school before that), and I don't recall either talking about debates regarding human nutrition really, especially not HFCS. Seems an odd topic to get into, so I also suspect it may have been the prof going off about some idea.
Back in jr high I had a science teacher who would say some whacky things which I repeated to my dad (who was an engineer) and he (not being very tactful, my dad), would say "that's stupid." Amusingly, one of the things I recall was that people like football players who get big muscles end up fat because the muscle turns to fat.4 -
I started my weight loss journey/life style change in about April. I did really well for the first few months through sticking to 1,200 calories a day, regular walks/jogs and low carbs.
But I fell of the wagon over summer when I went backpacking and struggled to sort myself out when I got back...but I'm now on week 2 back at it!
Basically I'm trying the low carbs combined with general healthy eating thing again. Mainly, because it makes it easier to maintain my calorie deficit and protein makes me feel fuller...
But every so often I find myself craving hot wings from the chicken shop (lol), popcorn, burgers and cake....
So what I want to know is...does it matter what you eat, if you can fit it under your calorie count? Will I still lose weight if were to, for example, eat a bag of popcorn for dinner if it fit in my daily calorie consumption? Does low carbs make you lose weight faster?
I think it depends on what one wants. In my case I no long want food containing any added sugar or any form of any grain so I can stay stuffed and maintain my weight loss and have improving health markers.
Now changing my wants turned out to be the hard part for the first two weeks to two months of eating LCHF but three years later the success is still awesome so I still want to keep eating this way at age 66.
I do encourage younger people to find the way that gives you the best long term health gains like I had wished I had done but at least at 66 health is finally improving after years of going in the wrong direction.2
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