Bullies

Just_Mel_
Just_Mel_ Posts: 3,992 Member
edited December 2017 in Chit-Chat
Has anyone seen the video going around about the young boy Keaton Jones who asked his mom to pick him up from school because he was afraid to be bullied at lunch?

https://youtu.be/kz1xzBYppW8

It's absolutely heartbreaking.
We need to be better parents and just better people in general. Even on here. I'm honestly sick of seeing all the negative crap and internet bullying. It's bad enough when kids do it, but pretty sad and pathetic when grown ups still do it.

Let's be kind y'all. Seriously. We have no clue what people are struggling with.
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  • Just_J_Now
    Just_J_Now Posts: 9,551 Member
    UGH...so very sad. :'(
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    edited December 2017
    I can't even watch it, I can tell by the cover pic that it will break my heart. I whole heartedly agree, lead by example. And by working with families daily, I can say that parenting has become way too lax and too many parents are afraid of being disliked by their kids. Again lead be example, be a kind person. Don't let your kids be a-holes.
  • PAFC84
    PAFC84 Posts: 1,871 Member
    edited December 2017
    True. Kids can be especially cruel, although as adults we're often not much better. I think kids having access to social media has made the problem worse. It used to be that when you got home you were safe, but now the bullying can follow you into the "safety" of your own room.

    Parents too often have no idea what is going on in their kids' lives and whilst when they are at school that is unavoidable to an extent, I would urge parents to place more restrictions and emphasis on monitoring kids' screen time.

    It's good that celebrities like Chris Evans have replied to him and offered him and his mum tickets to the Avengers Premiere next year.
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  • Just_J_Now
    Just_J_Now Posts: 9,551 Member
    Oh goodness. I hope I've never hurt anyone's feelings unless of course they deserved it. I was tagged in the "intimidated" thread and it makes me wonder how I come across. If I'm being honest though, I never did understand how adults can let themselves be bullied on the internet and MFP of all places. *shrugs*
  • browneyedgirl749
    browneyedgirl749 Posts: 4,984 Member
    It's hard to not come across as intimidating when you are careful who you let close, real life or internet. I have been trying to do better, and hope I haven't hurt anyone here. Trust me it wasn't on purpose. I do and say what I do and say because I'm trying not to be the one hurt.
  • Mandygring
    Mandygring Posts: 704 Member
    Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.
  • PAFC84
    PAFC84 Posts: 1,871 Member
    Just_J_Now wrote: »
    Oh goodness. I hope I've never hurt anyone's feelings unless of course they deserved it. I was tagged in the "intimidated" thread and it makes me wonder how I come across. If I'm being honest though, I never did understand how adults can let themselves be bullied on the internet and MFP of all places. *shrugs*

    Some people take offence more easily than others, even as adults some people are very sensitive; that's not a criticism btw. The thing about the internet is often you can't be sure of someone's tone and when you factor that into peoples' "worse case scenario" interpretation, it can be a recipe for disaster. Also it offers a lot of anonymity which allows people to spew their the hatred.

    You don't need to apologise to me though. I'll just take the money ;)
  • more_skal
    more_skal Posts: 400 Member
    Mandygring wrote: »
    Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.
    Mandygring wrote: »
    Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.
    Mandygring wrote: »
    Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.

    yes you are mandygring snake-in-eye
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,273 Member
    Good post Mel!
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  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.

    Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.

    I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.

    And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.

    I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.

    Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.


    you frighten me.




    a lot.
  • caco_ethes
    caco_ethes Posts: 11,962 Member
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.

    Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.

    I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.

    And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.

    I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.

    Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.


    you frighten me.




    a lot.

    Post reported :smirk:
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,273 Member
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.

    Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.

    I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.

    And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.

    I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.

    Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.

    Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.
  • caco_ethes
    caco_ethes Posts: 11,962 Member
    kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.

    Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.

    I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.

    And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.

    I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.

    Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.

    Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.

    As someone who helped me out through it all and was still kind to that person, I very much appreciate you.
  • sw33tp3a1
    sw33tp3a1 Posts: 5,065 Member
    My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
  • kinetixtrainer2
    kinetixtrainer2 Posts: 9,273 Member
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.

    Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.

    I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.

    And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.

    I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.

    Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.

    Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.

    As someone who helped me out through it all and was still kind to that person, I very much appreciate you.

    Aww I love you too. You have a good heart we all know it.

    It’s also true that when I posted a vague post in Jo’s original vague thread and it appeared I was going “punisher” mode on someone you people freaked out. Which was very funny.
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  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    Avocado_AS5 wrote: »
    I will also say, that this post is in no way referencing anything particular I've seen on here. I know things in that situation are not black and white and I don't take sides.

    It was actually about the video I posted and it hit a nerve in me. With things I've witnessed with my own kids. But yeah, adults can learn to be better too, even I can learn.

    Only love y'all.

    respext
  • Just_Mel_
    Just_Mel_ Posts: 3,992 Member
    sw33tp3a1 wrote: »
    My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.


    I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.
  • KosmosKitten
    KosmosKitten Posts: 10,476 Member
    sw33tp3a1 wrote: »
    Avocado_AS5 wrote: »
    sw33tp3a1 wrote: »
    My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.


    I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.

    Some might think I'm overly protective but I have decided to not give her access to any social media sites. She doesn't have a phone and the laptop that she has was given at school which is very well controlled as they've blocked many websites and turning off internet use automatically at 11 pm every night. That's as much access to the Internet she has now. Now her focus isn't on likes or comments but she has turned that focus into her education.

    How old is she, if you don't mind my asking? My son is young (6) and I worry about this sort of thing for when he gets older. I'm undecided on how I feel about the Internet, social media, etc. I didn't have real access to it until I was 14 (and that was to play Neopets and check email) and no real access to talk to other people on chat services until I was 16. And that was the young(ish) days of the Net.

    I hear and read stories about children (and adults) who were bullied so much or threatened so often through online means that they end up harming or killing themselves. :neutral:

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