Bullies
Has anyone seen the video going around about the young boy Keaton Jones who asked his mom to pick him up from school because he was afraid to be bullied at lunch?
https://youtu.be/kz1xzBYppW8
It's absolutely heartbreaking.
We need to be better parents and just better people in general. Even on here. I'm honestly sick of seeing all the negative crap and internet bullying. It's bad enough when kids do it, but pretty sad and pathetic when grown ups still do it.
Let's be kind y'all. Seriously. We have no clue what people are struggling with.
https://youtu.be/kz1xzBYppW8It's absolutely heartbreaking.
We need to be better parents and just better people in general. Even on here. I'm honestly sick of seeing all the negative crap and internet bullying. It's bad enough when kids do it, but pretty sad and pathetic when grown ups still do it.
Let's be kind y'all. Seriously. We have no clue what people are struggling with.
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Thank you for speaking up. This place is full of bullies.20
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UGH...so very sad.
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I can't even watch it, I can tell by the cover pic that it will break my heart. I whole heartedly agree, lead by example. And by working with families daily, I can say that parenting has become way too lax and too many parents are afraid of being disliked by their kids. Again lead be example, be a kind person. Don't let your kids be a-holes.3
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True. Kids can be especially cruel, although as adults we're often not much better. I think kids having access to social media has made the problem worse. It used to be that when you got home you were safe, but now the bullying can follow you into the "safety" of your own room.
Parents too often have no idea what is going on in their kids' lives and whilst when they are at school that is unavoidable to an extent, I would urge parents to place more restrictions and emphasis on monitoring kids' screen time.
It's good that celebrities like Chris Evans have replied to him and offered him and his mum tickets to the Avengers Premiere next year.3 -
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@Avocado_AS5 Thank you. You are sooooo right, and it has been bad in here the last few days.5
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MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »I'm not a very warm and welcoming person but I hope no one has felt picked on by me.
I come across as cold sometimes with my zero effs given attitude. But truth is, I do care and I wouldn't ever intentionally hurt someone's feelings. I just hope maybe we all can reflect a bit and just do better.7 -
Oh goodness. I hope I've never hurt anyone's feelings unless of course they deserved it. I was tagged in the "intimidated" thread and it makes me wonder how I come across. If I'm being honest though, I never did understand how adults can let themselves be bullied on the internet and MFP of all places. *shrugs*4
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It's hard to not come across as intimidating when you are careful who you let close, real life or internet. I have been trying to do better, and hope I haven't hurt anyone here. Trust me it wasn't on purpose. I do and say what I do and say because I'm trying not to be the one hurt.2
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Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.3
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Just_J_Now wrote: »Oh goodness. I hope I've never hurt anyone's feelings unless of course they deserved it. I was tagged in the "intimidated" thread and it makes me wonder how I come across. If I'm being honest though, I never did understand how adults can let themselves be bullied on the internet and MFP of all places. *shrugs*
Some people take offence more easily than others, even as adults some people are very sensitive; that's not a criticism btw. The thing about the internet is often you can't be sure of someone's tone and when you factor that into peoples' "worse case scenario" interpretation, it can be a recipe for disaster. Also it offers a lot of anonymity which allows people to spew their the hatred.
You don't need to apologise to me though. I'll just take the money
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Mandygring wrote: »Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.Mandygring wrote: »Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.Mandygring wrote: »Oh yeah I can't watch that either. I hate bullies and can't stand to see anyone bullied. It really breaks my heart. I'm a nice person so I've had my fair share as most ppl have.
yes you are mandygring snake-in-eye2 -
Good post Mel!1
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As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
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caco_ethes wrote: »As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
you frighten me.
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Motorsheen wrote: »caco_ethes wrote: »As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
you frighten me.
a lot.
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caco_ethes wrote: »As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.2 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »caco_ethes wrote: »As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.
As someone who helped me out through it all and was still kind to that person, I very much appreciate you.
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My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.4
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caco_ethes wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »caco_ethes wrote: »As someone who has been repeatedly treated like crap behind the scenes by someone who is very good at looking like a victim in public, I just want to remind people that these things are not always as black and white as they seem.
Having said that, I’ve been accused of being a bully myself. I know my sense of humor can be woefully misconstrued though, because I can’t actually hurt a fly. Well that’s a lie, I can kill those by the boatload.. but I did cry once when I saw a moth dying.
I know this won’t be the popular opinion and you’ll just have to take my word for it that I’m not advocating that people be jerks, but it is good to remember that the internet is not a playground. The vast majority of us are adults. And I think most of us understand the old adage that ‘hurt people hurt people’. This is what I believe is the case for the person who was so ugly to me for months. That doesn’t excuse his behavior at all. But I know it’s complicated. Luckily I wear a helmet when I’m on the internet.
And a full body oven mitt, but that’s a story for another day.
I can appreciate the sentiment behind this post. I can also appreciate the sentiment behind the posts of the ‘bullies’ who believe they are sticking up for people they care about.
Not everything is handled perfectly, especially when emotions flare.
Very well said and I agree. I would have preferred seeing this in a Velfie though.
As someone who helped me out through it all and was still kind to that person, I very much appreciate you.
Aww I love you too. You have a good heart we all know it.
It’s also true that when I posted a vague post in Jo’s original vague thread and it appeared I was going “punisher” mode on someone you people freaked out. Which was very funny.3 -
My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
You are right that it starts at home. Coming from a home where by parents divorced when I was young, I never heard my dad say a bad word about my mother. When my mom and I tried to have a relationship when I was in my late teens/early 20's, she dogged my dad. My brother went through the same thing. He never said a bad thing about his ex-wife in front of their son. But his ex-wife talked about him like he was straight garbage in front of my nephew. Now my nephew has problems of talking about people and being a bully. He uses that as a mechanism for people who pick on him for being held back and flunking. Even as adults it's bad. I hear my boss talking about people, making fun of their imperfections. As someone who suffers from alopecia and wears hats and scarves, this upsets me because I can only imagine what he says when I can't hear. I tell my nieces and nephews all the time "you never know what someone is going through, what their internal struggles are. What they deal with at home. Don't ever judge someone or pick on them because they are different than you." Bullying is so much worse now because of social media and texting. Parents need to do something about their bullying kids. It breaks my heart to see stories like the one in the OP, or the one where the girl killed herself because she was bullied. That Netflix show 13 Reasons Why is a good show for kids to watch, whether they are being bullied or the ones doing the bullying.6 -
I will also say, that this post is in no way referencing anything particular I've seen on here. I know things in that situation are not black and white and I don't take sides.
It was actually about the video I posted and it hit a nerve in me. With things I've witnessed with my own kids. But yeah, adults can learn to be better too, even I can learn.
Only love y'all.5 -
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Avocado_AS5 wrote: »I will also say, that this post is in no way referencing anything particular I've seen on here. I know things in that situation are not black and white and I don't take sides.
It was actually about the video I posted and it hit a nerve in me. With things I've witnessed with my own kids. But yeah, adults can learn to be better too, even I can learn.
Only love y'all.
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My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.0 -
Avocado_AS5 wrote: »My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.
Some might think I'm overly protective but I have decided to not give her access to any social media sites. She doesn't have a phone and the laptop that she has was given at school which is very well controlled as they've blocked many websites and turning off internet use automatically at 11 pm every night. That's as much access to the Internet she has now. Now her focus isn't on likes or comments but she has turned that focus into her education.5 -
Avocado_AS5 wrote: »My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.
Right?
As a kid, I screwed up all the time. The difference is that it wasn't filmed and posted for the world to see.
I was recently asked: What's your biggest fear?
after some thought, I said: I don't exactly know, but becoming an internet meme would really suck.
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Avocado_AS5 wrote: »My daughter was a victim of online bullying last year and the effects of that was devastating. As a parent we say things about other adults in front our kids and we forget our kids are listening and they sponge that negativity up thinking that's okay. It all starts at home, you're absolutely right. I really hope he is able to surpass this horrible experience and not let him be defined by it. And for those parents with bully kids, please do something about it.
I absolutely agree. Social Media is something we didn't have to deal with as kids and it's scary to think of how much influence and power it can have over adolescents. I can't even imagine growing up how my kids are now, where value is placed on likes and shares and comments. The world is changing, but bullies have always been around. It's just a lot easier to do it now.
Some might think I'm overly protective but I have decided to not give her access to any social media sites. She doesn't have a phone and the laptop that she has was given at school which is very well controlled as they've blocked many websites and turning off internet use automatically at 11 pm every night. That's as much access to the Internet she has now. Now her focus isn't on likes or comments but she has turned that focus into her education.
How old is she, if you don't mind my asking? My son is young (6) and I worry about this sort of thing for when he gets older. I'm undecided on how I feel about the Internet, social media, etc. I didn't have real access to it until I was 14 (and that was to play Neopets and check email) and no real access to talk to other people on chat services until I was 16. And that was the young(ish) days of the Net.
I hear and read stories about children (and adults) who were bullied so much or threatened so often through online means that they end up harming or killing themselves.
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