“Make sure you eat a WHOLE avocado then your body will start burning fat!” and other silly things!
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Don't exercise beyond the "fat burning" zone, or you won't lose weight.
Did you happen to look at the MFP Blog page recently?
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seltzermint555 wrote: »If you eat any sweets at all, such as a piece of pie, your body will hold on to all of the calories you eat until you eat more pie
sorry what? i don't want to argue with the messenger, but i can't help being too intrigued to shut up. so, what? you eat a piece of pie, your body holds onto the calories, and then you eat more pie, and your body . . . what? releases them all?
does it release only the backed-up calories from the first piece, or does it release both of them together, or what? is it like an every-other-piece-cancels thing? like one piece of pie = 'hold' calories, but two pieces 'releases' them?
or is it a kind of chain-reactiony thing, where each piece of pie releases the calories of the piece before it but then enters the 'holding' buffer itself until the piece after it comes along and sets it free in its turn?
i know it's not your problem but i'm just so fascinated by how this could have worked in the original person's mind.
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »itsbasschick wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »There is a grain, a tiny grain, of something valid here. Chilling starches (potatoes, pasta) does appear to *somewhat* reduce the number of calories available to your body because a portion of the starch is converted to "resistant starch." It goes to the large intestine and acts more like fiber there (passing through your body). But you can get the same impact from cooking the potato, chilling it, and then reheating it. And it's not going to make the potato calorie-free.
that might work, but after chewing up potato, pasta or any food and swallowing it, it will warm to body temp in your stomach before it ever makes it to your intestines.Hmmmm...
-Don't drink a cold drink with food, it will solidify fat and your body will absorb more of it
like above, anything in your stomach will warm up. so funny!
The resistant starch is known to happen with pasta and rice. I don't recall seeing evidence that it happened with potatoes. The process is to cook it then refrigerate it for 12 hours to accomplish the conversion. Eating and thus warming it to body temp does not un-convert the resistance.
The bacteria in the large intestine digest and consume the resistant starches which you failed to digest.
I'm not informed of how bacteria respond to having a big old meal of resistant starch.
They are happy bacteria. And if this is a dramatic change in your eating habits, you might have too few bacteria each eating too much delicious bacteria food, such that they are overfed and start micro-tooting, thus giving you more-than-usual intestinal gas. Seriously.
Right - you're the one who posted about the micro-toots the other day! I was bloaty this morning when I got up, and visions of tiny bacteria farting away in my gut were making my head explode. Thanks a lot!
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canadianlbs wrote: »seltzermint555 wrote: »If you eat any sweets at all, such as a piece of pie, your body will hold on to all of the calories you eat until you eat more pie
sorry what? i don't want to argue with the messenger, but i can't help being too intrigued to shut up. so, what? you eat a piece of pie, your body holds onto the calories, and then you eat more pie, and your body . . . what? releases them all?
does it release only the backed-up calories from the first piece, or does it release both of them together, or what? is it like an every-other-piece-cancels thing? like one piece of pie = 'hold' calories, but two pieces 'releases' them?
or is it a kind of chain-reactiony thing, where each piece of pie releases the calories of the piece before it but then enters the 'holding' buffer itself until the piece after it comes along and sets it free in its turn?
i know it's not your problem but i'm just so fascinated by how this could have worked in the original person's mind.
I think the only thing to take away from this is eat a whole pie and lose weight. 6 -
You can't lose weight if you eat more than 45 grams of sugar a day (both natural and added). You can't lose weight if you eat bread, rice .........and so many other carbs. Bananas and mangos will prevent weight loss. I have been doing it all wrong but must be the exception because I eat all of the above.0
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I really wish we still had the "Awesome" button, because some of these are so hilarious that "Like" just doesn't cover it!
My contribution from a family member:
"Butter is fine on a dairy-free diet, you just can't drink milk because it's an enzyme."
And those of you with celiac disease will LOVE this next one, from the same person:
"I don't eat white bread, because I'm eating gluten-free, so I buy wholewheat."
also:
"Cous cous is healthy and gluten-free. Semolina isn't healthy because it's white and processed."1 -
"Diet X works great! I've done it 5 times!" Why did you have to do it 5 times if it worked?10
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canadianlbs wrote: »seltzermint555 wrote: »If you eat any sweets at all, such as a piece of pie, your body will hold on to all of the calories you eat until you eat more pie
sorry what? i don't want to argue with the messenger, but i can't help being too intrigued to shut up. so, what? you eat a piece of pie, your body holds onto the calories, and then you eat more pie, and your body . . . what? releases them all?
does it release only the backed-up calories from the first piece, or does it release both of them together, or what? is it like an every-other-piece-cancels thing? like one piece of pie = 'hold' calories, but two pieces 'releases' them?
or is it a kind of chain-reactiony thing, where each piece of pie releases the calories of the piece before it but then enters the 'holding' buffer itself until the piece after it comes along and sets it free in its turn?
i know it's not your problem but i'm just so fascinated by how this could have worked in the original person's mind.
Apparently we need to eat pieces of pie in even-number increments. Piece one, retain calories; piece two, release calories. So whatever you do, have another slice of pie!3 -
What if I have only half a piece of pie?2
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estherdragonbat wrote: »What if I have only half a piece of pie?
You just have to cut your pie-half in half and then you can still get the benefits of the calorie releases.
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I have a Brach's chocolate orange, the one that you break in slices. So theoretically, I'd should be a calorie releasing machine today! 1
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »itsbasschick wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »There is a grain, a tiny grain, of something valid here. Chilling starches (potatoes, pasta) does appear to *somewhat* reduce the number of calories available to your body because a portion of the starch is converted to "resistant starch." It goes to the large intestine and acts more like fiber there (passing through your body). But you can get the same impact from cooking the potato, chilling it, and then reheating it. And it's not going to make the potato calorie-free.
that might work, but after chewing up potato, pasta or any food and swallowing it, it will warm to body temp in your stomach before it ever makes it to your intestines.Hmmmm...
-Don't drink a cold drink with food, it will solidify fat and your body will absorb more of it
like above, anything in your stomach will warm up. so funny!
The resistant starch is known to happen with pasta and rice. I don't recall seeing evidence that it happened with potatoes. The process is to cook it then refrigerate it for 12 hours to accomplish the conversion. Eating and thus warming it to body temp does not un-convert the resistance.
The bacteria in the large intestine digest and consume the resistant starches which you failed to digest.
I'm not informed of how bacteria respond to having a big old meal of resistant starch.
They are happy bacteria. And if this is a dramatic change in your eating habits, you might have too few bacteria each eating too much delicious bacteria food, such that they are overfed and start micro-tooting, thus giving you more-than-usual intestinal gas. Seriously.
Right - you're the one who posted about the micro-toots the other day! I was bloaty this morning when I got up, and visions of tiny bacteria farting away in my gut were making my head explode. Thanks a lot!
I love this image. Happy little bacteria making tiny little toots.
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My ex husband told me that I can't lose weight by swimming because the water is too cold to burn fat. Funny, I am losing weight by swimming.2
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PppY'all ever heard of the Apple only diet? Eat as many apples as you want & you'll lose weight.
That might really help me. I'm not too fond of apples.
Don't think I'm quite that desperate yet.lemurcat12 wrote: »My mother got the Beverly Hills Diet book from the library and I read it. I don't think I even believed it then, it was so silly, but I wanted to try it (I was around 12 and not overweight but wanted to be a little thinner, and I loved the idea of just eating unlimited fruit). My mother didn't let me (in that she wouldn't buy the fruits needed for the program) except she let me get grapefruit (which it turned out I hated). Here's an explanation (dealing with the updated and slightly less stupid but still really stupid version of the diet) from https://www.diet.com/g/beverly-hills-diet:
"The Beverly Hills diet...is based on the idea that it is not what a person eats, or even how much food is eaten that causes a person to gain weight [but]...the combinations in which foods are eaten and the order in which they are eaten causes weight gain.... [E]ating foods in the wrong order can stop some foods from being digested, and it is the undigested foods that cause fat build-up....
....[F]ruit must be eaten alone and must be eaten before anything else is consumed during the day [and]...each type of fruit must be eaten alone.... f a dieter eats an orange, the dieter must wait at least one full hour before eating another type of fruit, such as a pear. If the dieter eats a different type of food, such as a protein, the dieter must wait until the next day to eat fruit again.
...[P]rotein and carbohydrates cannot be eaten together....[O]n the first day of the diet, dieters are instructed to eat pineapple, corn on the cob, and a salad made of lettuce, tomatoes, and onions with Mazel dressing. (Mazel dressing is a recipe included in the book, and shows up frequently throughout the 35-day diet.) This means that dieters may eat as much pineapple as desired in the morning, but once they beginning eating corn on the cob they cannot go back and eat more pineapple. Once the salad is eaten, both corn on the cob and pineapple are no longer allowed. Dieters are instructed to wait between changing foods to ensure proper digestion.
Some days on the diet only one type of food is permitted during the entire day. Day three of the diet allows the dieter only to consume grapes. On other days the dieter is only allowed to eat watermelon. Although these rules are extremely restrictive, they are not as restrictive as the rules set out in the original Beverly Hills diet. On that diet, dieters were only allowed to eat fruit for the first 10 days of the diet. No animal protein was allowed at all until the 19th day...."
I always thought this might work for a while because of all the rules and being afraid to eat anything because you're afraid you'll break the rules.
Also pretty much rules out fast food, except maybe salad, but have to be careful of that, too, because of meat and croutons.0 -
Diet soda will make me gain weight.
Don't eat at night or your body stores it as fat.
Eating smaller meals helps you burn fat faster by upping your metabolism.
If you toast bread it reduces the calories because it burns them off.
I need to do situps to lose belly fat.
ACV
"If you toast bread it reduces the calories because it burns them off."
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itsbasschick wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »There is a grain, a tiny grain, of something valid here. Chilling starches (potatoes, pasta) does appear to *somewhat* reduce the number of calories available to your body because a portion of the starch is converted to "resistant starch." It goes to the large intestine and acts more like fiber there (passing through your body). But you can get the same impact from cooking the potato, chilling it, and then reheating it. And it's not going to make the potato calorie-free.
that might work, but after chewing up potato, pasta or any food and swallowing it, it will warm to body temp in your stomach before it ever makes it to your intestines.Hmmmm...
-Don't drink a cold drink with food, it will solidify fat and your body will absorb more of it
like above, anything in your stomach will warm up. so funny!
It doesn't have to *stay cold* in your body. The act of chilling it is what converts some of the starch to resistant starch even if the food is later reheated or if it reaches the temperature of your body while it is being digested.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »itsbasschick wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »There is a grain, a tiny grain, of something valid here. Chilling starches (potatoes, pasta) does appear to *somewhat* reduce the number of calories available to your body because a portion of the starch is converted to "resistant starch." It goes to the large intestine and acts more like fiber there (passing through your body). But you can get the same impact from cooking the potato, chilling it, and then reheating it. And it's not going to make the potato calorie-free.
that might work, but after chewing up potato, pasta or any food and swallowing it, it will warm to body temp in your stomach before it ever makes it to your intestines.Hmmmm...
-Don't drink a cold drink with food, it will solidify fat and your body will absorb more of it
like above, anything in your stomach will warm up. so funny!
The resistant starch is known to happen with pasta and rice. I don't recall seeing evidence that it happened with potatoes.
It does. Here's one discussion, but there are lots: https://www.nature.com/articles/1602238
This also supports the idea that eating potatoes cold with a vinegar-based dressing (i.e., German potato salad, yum!) probably is better if you have insulin issues than many other ways of consuming potatoes.
That said, I've always chilled cooked potatoes and rice often, since I tend to make enough for leftovers. For the record, it did not prevent me from getting fat. So I'm one who won't be pre-chilling all my starches or thinking "yay, pre-chilled potatoes, I can go wild and eat more." If it's a calorie bonus, great.
I eat most of my potatoes, pasta, and rice cold (because I cook in batches, save the leftovers, and don't heat them up) and whatever the calorie difference may be it has never been enough to make a difference I could notice in my long-term results (and I eat a fair amount of all three foods).1 -
lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.14 -
jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
Only if it gives you indigestion or interferes with sleep, which is not the case for everyone.6 -
jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
This is only necessary if you're prone to heartburn or find that you sleep better if you don't eat right before bed. For the rest of us, it's unnecessary. Our body doesn't need a pre-bed "break" from food, we're capable of digesting and processing food all night long.4 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
Only if it gives you indigestion or interferes with sleep, which is not the case for everyone.
yep, this is me!...and why I don't eat anything 2-3 hours before going to bed--I just don't get a good night's sleep if I do and not eating 2-3 hours before bed has eliminated the acid reflux problems I had for years, so now I'm just use to not even thinking about eating late at night.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
This is only necessary if you're prone to heartburn or find that you sleep better if you don't eat right before bed. For the rest of us, it's unnecessary. Our body doesn't need a pre-bed "break" from food, we're capable of digesting and processing food all night long.
It actually interferes with weight loss, so no, it's not "unnecessary": https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-why-you-should-never-eat-right-before-bed.
Someone will point to having success while eating right before bed as anecdotal evidence that it doesn't cause a problem, but what they won't realize is that it probably hindered them and many others at some point.
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Diet soda will make me gain weight.
Don't eat at night or your body stores it as fat.
Eating smaller meals helps you burn fat faster by upping your metabolism.
If you toast bread it reduces the calories because it burns them off.
I need to do situps to lose belly fat.
ACV
"If you toast bread it reduces the calories because it burns them off."
Lol
A friend of mine worked at a coffeehouse during college (not Starbucks), and told me about all of the crazy things some people wanted when they ordered.
One woman was very particular about having her muffin warmed up, saying that "the calories won't count" if the muffin was warmed up. My friend was studying nutrition and knew this was wrong, so she politely told the woman that wasn't true. The lady lost her senses and insisted that it was. My friend dropped it, popped the muffin in the microwave, and that was that.1 -
jennismagic wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
This is only necessary if you're prone to heartburn or find that you sleep better if you don't eat right before bed. For the rest of us, it's unnecessary. Our body doesn't need a pre-bed "break" from food, we're capable of digesting and processing food all night long.
It actually interferes with weight loss, so no, it's not "unnecessary": https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-why-you-should-never-eat-right-before-bed.
Someone will point to having success while eating right before bed as anecdotal evidence that it doesn't cause a problem, but what they won't realize is that it probably hindered them and many others at some point.
The issue with eating late and weight gain is that people who are eating late are often eating *more* than they need. The article itself references it as a problem with overeating (because people are waiting until they're too hungry and they eat more). I'm not aware of any evidence that shows that people who eat 2-3 hours before bedtime are hindering their weight loss when overall calorie consumption is accounted for. The study referenced in the article you're sharing is a study of when *lunch* was consumed, so it isn't even looking at the 2-3 hours before bedtime that you claim are critical. What studies are you referring to?6 -
I don't eat a few hours before going to bed, but that is because my husband reports that if I do eat close to bedtime, I toss and turn like crazy in my sleep, thus interfering with his. He keeps a close eye on me to make sure I don't! It does help keep me from going over my calorie goal!2
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I don't eat past 7pm usually but that's because if I do, I wake up in the morning with horrible bloating and cramps, and it sits there for hours before the gas starts releasing, and that's not pleasant to have happen at work 0
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Well, diet soda doesn't cause weight gain but for me, it's definitely a gateway drug. . . It also gives me a sweets craving almost instantly. Like I said, gateway drug.
Same here. I eliminated diet soda since it always, always, Always triggers my appetite. I drink water instead and get very few cravings. It must be working since I've lost almost 50 pounds in 15 weeks.0 -
jennismagic wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jennismagic wrote: »lulalacroix wrote: »Don't eat after 6 pm.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Sauces don't have any calories.
My favorite:. Diet soda causes weight gain.
While the 6:00 p.m. thing is bunk, you really should give your body a break and not eat anything 2-3 before you go to bed.
This is only necessary if you're prone to heartburn or find that you sleep better if you don't eat right before bed. For the rest of us, it's unnecessary. Our body doesn't need a pre-bed "break" from food, we're capable of digesting and processing food all night long.
It actually interferes with weight loss, so no, it's not "unnecessary": https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-why-you-should-never-eat-right-before-bed.
Your article does not support that conclusion.
It sites one study that shows a positive correlation between eating within 3 hours of bedtime and acid reflux, but that on average a group of people might have a statistically significant increased risk of developing something -- and I would not conclude even that from ONE study -- does not mean that it's an issue for everyone. Instead, it's consistent with what everyone else said, that it could be an issue for some people.
The other study discussed (and again you can't use just one study and think it proves anything) merely indicates that people who ate their biggest meal after 3 pm had more issues. This doesn't mean meal timing CAUSES the issue, but could be a difference between the people (and eating close to bed is a different thing than eating your biggest meal after 3 pm, although I'm sure there's some overlap).1 -
Bulletproof coffee because somehow adding butter to your coffee will help up your metabolism
I had a friend do the hcg diet. 500 calories a day, very few carbs, only veggies, take hcg. I did a walk/run 5k with her and she collapsed at the end and insisted it wasn’t because of the diet. Needless to say she’s still overweight.0
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