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Cutting out coffee or diet coke
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I would cut out both to be honest. Any carbonated drinks aren’t great for your teeth .. coffee just makes you dependant on it for energy .. I can’t drink it as it gives me heart palpitations but people who I know who do drink it try to cut back on it
Been drinking (diet) carbonated drinks most of my life. My dentist is quite happy with my teeth. It's called brushing.
Not sure how good your dentist is, but drinking fizzy drinks is bad for your teeth .. FACT
Drink with a straw. No fizzy liquid near teeth, so no erosion. As PP pointed out, fruit juices erode teeth as well. WIll you cut out all fruit?
Even if you drink with a straw you can still get some on your teeth. I don’t drink fruit juices as I know they are full of sugar and can cause damage to teeth
By that logic you should avoid all of these foods as well because of their acidity. Are you going to tell people to fear all of these things too? This is not even an exhaustive list.
Lemon Juice
Wine
Sports Drinks
Tonic Water
Cherries
Oranges
Plums
Iced Tea
Berries
Grapefruit Juice
Pickles
Vinegar
Apple Juice
Salad Dressing
Cranberries
Orange Juice
Tomatoes
Honey
Tomato Ketchup
Raisins
Vitamin C Tablets
Beer
Apples
Green Olives
Pears
Figs
Tea (black)9 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I would cut out both to be honest. Any carbonated drinks aren’t great for your teeth .. coffee just makes you dependant on it for energy .. I can’t drink it as it gives me heart palpitations but people who I know who do drink it try to cut back on it
Been drinking (diet) carbonated drinks most of my life. My dentist is quite happy with my teeth. It's called brushing.
Not sure how good your dentist is, but drinking fizzy drinks is bad for your teeth .. FACT
Drink with a straw. No fizzy liquid near teeth, so no erosion. As PP pointed out, fruit juices erode teeth as well. WIll you cut out all fruit?
Even if you drink with a straw you can still get some on your teeth. I don’t drink fruit juices as I know they are full of sugar and can cause damage to teeth
By that logic you should avoid all of these foods as well because of their acidity. Are you going to tell people to fear all of these things too? This is not even an exhaustive list.
Lemon Juice
Wine
Sports Drinks
Tonic Water
Cherries
Oranges
Plums
Iced Tea
Berries
Grapefruit Juice
Pickles
Vinegar
Apple Juice
Salad Dressing
Cranberries
Orange Juice
Tomatoes
Honey
Tomato Ketchup
Raisins
Vitamin C Tablets
Beer
Apples
Green Olives
Pears
Figs
Tea (black)
Thanks for the list, but if you read my first ever comment I simply replied to someone asking out of coffee or fizzy drinks which one should they avoid .. and I suggested both ..9 -
stevencloser wrote: »Don't you guys wish our bodies hat some sort of biological mechanism that excreted a pH neutral liquid into our mouths continuously which would neutralize any remains of acidic substances instead of having our teeth soak in it forever?
Yeah it’s called saliva4 -
Ok, it looks like we have the "back up your point" idea well covered. Can we move forward from here now, back to something or another to do with coffee and sodas.
Don't forget to be polite and respectful to one another please.
4legs
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4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Ok, it looks like we have the "back up your point" idea well covered. Can we move forward from here now, back to something or another to do with coffee and sodas.
Don't forget to be polite and respectful to one another please.
4legs
MFP moderator
Why re-open this? I doubt it will go much better the 2nd time around.4 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I would cut out both to be honest. Any carbonated drinks aren’t great for your teeth .. coffee just makes you dependant on it for energy .. I can’t drink it as it gives me heart palpitations but people who I know who do drink it try to cut back on it
Been drinking (diet) carbonated drinks most of my life. My dentist is quite happy with my teeth. It's called brushing.
Not sure how good your dentist is, but drinking fizzy drinks is bad for your teeth .. FACT
Drink with a straw. No fizzy liquid near teeth, so no erosion. As PP pointed out, fruit juices erode teeth as well. WIll you cut out all fruit?
Even if you drink with a straw you can still get some on your teeth. I don’t drink fruit juices as I know they are full of sugar and can cause damage to teeth
By that logic you should avoid all of these foods as well because of their acidity. Are you going to tell people to fear all of these things too? This is not even an exhaustive list.
Lemon Juice
Wine
Sports Drinks
Tonic Water
Cherries
Oranges
Plums
Iced Tea
Berries
Grapefruit Juice
Pickles
Vinegar
Apple Juice
Salad Dressing
Cranberries
Orange Juice
Tomatoes
Honey
Tomato Ketchup
Raisins
Vitamin C Tablets
Beer
Apples
Green Olives
Pears
Figs
Tea (black)
I think the point is people generally aren't constantly keeping their mouth awash in pickles, green olives, salad dressing, berries, etc like someone who drinks a liter + of soda a day (which is not uncommon).
Moderation, a soda or 2 a week no big deal. Couple liters (even diet) a day could be an issue for some depending on the chemistry of tooth enamel.5 -
ladyhusker39 wrote: »Ryansworld84 wrote: »My advice is to give up diet coke as it is unhealthy even if it is 0 calories. And keep coffee but with a change: learn to like black coffee (nothing added). If you slowly over time cut it down and make good quality coffee (not folgers) you can learn to love the taste of black coffee! I limit my diet pops a lot, on occasion I may have one but that is where it stops at one. I dont keep any in the house and if I do go get one its just one serving not a case or 2 liter.
If your goal is weight loss limit your liquid calories which also includes juice! Most Juice is just pop without the fizz. If you want orange juice, eat an orange is what I always say.
Hope this helps, and dont forget its not off limits forever, just limit yourself. Maybe if you a great week Mon-Friday and on saturday you want a mochachochalala coffee drink, get one but have limits and make it a rare treat.
And why is Diet Coke unhealthy?
Here's an interesting take on the subject by way of a clinical trial posted at the NIH.
It's interesting to ask why this is the case, that is: diet beverages in relation to discretionary food choices.
I won't lie, an ice cold Diet Coke on a hot day tastes great to me. I suppose, like so many things in life, moderation is the key.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/244328760 -
I used to be a heavy diet soda drinker for many years, after a kidney stone and just general ongoing malaise I decided to reduce my diet soda intake and drink more water. I think I am sensitive to Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners because I get blinding headaches and weight plateaus when I have had to much of them. This is purely anecdotal and I think some people can tolerate artificial sweeteners more than others. That being said I've always had tea without sweetener and for the past year I've either had my coffee black or with half and half depending on how good the coffee is. I will still have a diet soda without Aspartame once in a great while but I stay away from them just because I just generally feel better not drinking them. I think its a personal choice but it's worth making a change if you have some type of sensitivity in regards to artificial sweeteners. These days my palate has changed so much that most diet sodas are way to sweet and I just don't like them. Cutting that "sweet fix" out of my diet helps me control the sweet/salty snacking mindless eating balancing act that was my routine for many years. If I want something with carbonation I add a little lemon or lime juice to some carbonated water. My go to bar drink is the same thing with some vodka thrown in but that is a rare treat.2
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