dairy or soy milk
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I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on which to drink, I'm pre diabetic, I switched from 1% dairy milk to original soy milk, because it's lower in sugar. I'd rather drink dairy, it's cheaper and I like it better, but I'll stick with which ever is better for me.
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I don’t like soy because there have been a lot of studies on hormone issues among other things, so I go with almond milk instead.22
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There's just 4 grams of sugar difference per cup between the two (8 for soy, 12 for dairy). If you prefer dairy milk, go ahead and have it!
I'm diabetic myself and we keep 2% in our house. Recently my doctor cut my metformin dose in half, and my BG's doing so well that I'll soon be off it. I'm able to do this because I eat food I like, in reasonable portions. It's a sustainable diet for me. If you force yourself to eat stuff you don't like, you won't be happy sustaining it. Be kind to yourself.10 -
GemstoneofHeart wrote: »I don’t like soy because there have been a lot of studies on hormone issues among other things, so I go with almond milk instead.
I tried almond milk, I didn't like it. I do like and drink chocolate almond milk though1 -
There's just 4 grams of sugar difference per cup between the two (8 for soy, 12 for dairy). If you prefer dairy milk, go ahead and have it!
I'm diabetic myself and we keep 2% in our house. Recently my doctor cut my metformin dose in half, and my BG's doing so well that I'll soon be off it. I'm able to do this because I eat food I like, in reasonable portions. It's a sustainable diet for me. If you force yourself to eat stuff you don't like, you won't be happy sustaining it. Be kind to yourself.
I like the soy milk, I just like the dairy better....0 -
livenfree45 wrote: »I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on which to drink, I'm pre diabetic, I switched from 1% dairy milk to original soy milk, because it's lower in sugar. I'd rather drink dairy, it's cheaper and I like it better, but I'll stick with which ever is better for me.
As long as you doctor has no issues, drink dairy.1 -
I love unsweetened soy and almond milk but then, even as a child I couldn't stand the taste of milk. I think this decision is a totally personal one, though, because I've never heard that milk is a problem. However, the American Diabetes Association would have good info:
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/making-healthy-food-choices/what-can-i-drink.html1 -
My husband likes fairlife..it has a lot less sugar.4
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I love milk. My stomach hates soy, and tends to expel even small amounts out forcfully and with as much pain as possible. Plus I'm one of the lucky few adults witn NO lactose intolerance issues.Even though my IBS is triggered easily other ways.
For me the choice is easy, lol.2 -
I like getting the unsweetened coconut milk blends. The kinds I get have like 4 grams sugar per serving and I find the coconut milk mixed in gives it a better consistency and a sweeter taste without extra sugar in the vanilla flavored soy milk. We always use it in our cereal.0
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livenfree45 wrote: »GemstoneofHeart wrote: »I don’t like soy because there have been a lot of studies on hormone issues among other things, so I go with almond milk instead.
I tried almond milk, I didn't like it. I do like and drink chocolate almond milk though
I imagine it varies by brand, but Blue Diamond chocolate almond milk has 20 g of sugar per cup, compared to 12 g per cup for dairy milk, so that seems counterproductive to your goal.1 -
I prefer soy milk. I like the taste better and like the idea that I'm not putting something into my body that was intended to grow baby cows until they're a couple of months old (at which time they're already a pretty decent size). (I still consume it when there's no alternative). But it's mostly personal preference.23
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Just drink the dairy, there isn't really much difference.3
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I like almond milk ... tastes better than real milk.3
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For myself, I'll stick to dairy.
But then again, I have a soy intolerance or potentially an allergy to it, but I'd have to go in to the doctor to get that checked out (extremely painful bloating and diarrhea after consuming anything with soy). So I just avoid it.
Almond milk has a weird taste to me. But that might just have been the brand I tasted.
Bottom line: if you like it, and it doesn't give you symptoms of an allergy or intolerance, then it's really only a matter of personal preference.3 -
Dairy also has more protein, I drink skimmed milk in coffee and semi-skimmed in my porridge. Caloriewise there is not much difference between dairy and soy.2
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Myself - low fat dairy milk - or full fat if low fat not available
I dont like the taste of other 'milks' - soy etc
But drink whichever you prefer - no 'better for you' one really.0 -
Both for me. I like to have a glass of dairy sometimes and I use it to make porridge or scrambled eggs. When I have weetabix I use soy milk as it's sweet enough by itself I don't need to add any sugar.0
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I use both soy in my tea at work and dairy at home, I was also pre diabetic beginning of this year, to be fair just losing weight sorted it out also lowering my carbs and increasing my protein a little (I am a total carb *kitten*) but that's just me, I'd say do whatever your doctor advises.0
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GemstoneofHeart wrote: »I don’t like soy because there have been a lot of studies on hormone issues among other things, so I go with almond milk instead.
Unless you have a specific medical condition that has your doctor recommending you avoid soy, there's no reason to eliminate it for this reason. Soy is one of the most studied foods ever and meta-analysis of the studies show no reason for people to avoid moderate soy consumption.9 -
I really wanted to let this go, but I'm just too curious. Why al the woo's for my reply? Am I not allowed to prefer the taste of soy milk? Is cow milk not originally intented to grow baby cows into healthy, strong, big cows? I'm really just stating my personal preferences here?14
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janejellyroll wrote: »GemstoneofHeart wrote: »I don’t like soy because there have been a lot of studies on hormone issues among other things, so I go with almond milk instead.
Unless you have a specific medical condition that has your doctor recommending you avoid soy, there's no reason to eliminate it for this reason. Soy is one of the most studied foods ever and meta-analysis of the studies show no reason for people to avoid moderate soy consumption.
Yes you are correct, my doctor recommended that I do not take it for some of my hormone issues, specifically fertility. I know a lot of the studies are old from the 90s that were anti-soy, but I play it safe and like almond milk just as much.0 -
GoldenEye_ wrote: »I really wanted to let this go, but I'm just too curious. Why al the woo's for my reply? Am I not allowed to prefer the taste of soy milk? Is cow milk not originally intented to grow baby cows into healthy, strong, big cows? I'm really just stating my personal preferences here?
I did not "woo" your reply, but I can't imagine that anyone is thinking you're not *allowed* to have preferences. It's just that when you express your preferences, people are also allowed to express their opinion of them. Even our personal preferences can draw a reaction from others.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Unless you have a specific medical condition that has your doctor recommending you avoid soy, there's no reason to eliminate it for this reason. Soy is one of the most studied foods ever and meta-analysis of the studies show no reason for people to avoid moderate soy consumption.
It's hard to search for positive things about soy because they're buried in a huge number of woo posts from sites with names like stopkillingkids and brosciencetoday.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2014/02/12/straight-talk-about-soy/
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GoldenEye_ wrote: »I really wanted to let this go, but I'm just too curious. Why al the woo's for my reply? Am I not allowed to prefer the taste of soy milk? Is cow milk not originally intented to grow baby cows into healthy, strong, big cows? I'm really just stating my personal preferences here?
Since MFP made the bad decision to add a woo button, people appear to be using it to "punish" people they disagree with or dislike for reasons of their own. Ignore them.13 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I did not "woo" your reply, but I can't imagine that anyone is thinking you're not *allowed* to have preferences. It's just that when you express your preferences, people are also allowed to express their opinion of them. Even our personal preferences can draw a reaction from others.Since MFP made the bad decision to add a woo button, people appear to be using it to "punish" people they disagree with or dislike for reasons of their own. Ignore them.
Thanks. I personally only use the woo button for broscience or simply very rude posts. Everyone is different and everyone has different preferences, so 'woo'-ing everyone with a different opinion seems a bit off to me and in this case it made me wonder. Thanks again for the clarification so far.
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Personally, I drink unsweetened soy milk which is very low in sugar (even lower than "original" which is often sweetened). But, if you really prefer dairy milk, or affording soy milk is an issue for you, you might ask your doctor whether that amount of sugar makes a difference.
Also note, fortified soy milk is the only plant-based milk that is nutritionally equivalent to milk. All of the other plant-based milks are substantially lower in protein. If you like almond/cashew/coconut/rice milk, there is nothing wrong with enjoying them, it's just something to keep in mind.1 -
I feel like it would matter how much milk you’re drinking in a day to know if it was significant. If you only have one cup (my soy milk has 6g of sugar per cup) then the difference is negligible between dairy milk and soy. And if that were the case I would just keep the milk you like and budget the rest of your sugar allowance around it. If you’re a person who drinks like 3 cups a day maybe cut down or look into alternatives or mix together...2
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GoldenEye_ wrote: »I really wanted to let this go, but I'm just too curious. Why al the woo's for my reply? Am I not allowed to prefer the taste of soy milk? Is cow milk not originally intented to grow baby cows into healthy, strong, big cows? I'm really just stating my personal preferences here?
I thought you worded your post very well. It was clear that you were stating personal preferences.
I prefer the taste of soy to cow's milk too. I don't drink much milk of any kind but when I do it's almond or soy. Other than cheese I'm not a fan of dairy.0 -
Now, i consume both soy and dairy milk. Last year, I was a vegan for a year. It was hard because everyone puts dairy milk in their products. It is unavoidable at times. I definitely had to cook everything from scratch.2
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livenfree45 wrote: »I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on which to drink, I'm pre diabetic, I switched from 1% dairy milk to original soy milk, because it's lower in sugar. I'd rather drink dairy, it's cheaper and I like it better, but I'll stick with which ever is better for me.
Since you'd prefer cow's milk, I'd suggest checking your sugar levels after regular dairy and see if the impact is significantly different than soy. My mother is diabetic and she drinks a lot of cow's milk without problems.2
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