No more soda
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.4 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.
I dunno, I just had my teeth cleaned on Monday and my dentist told me my teeth are in excellent shape and to keep up the good work, and I drink a diet coke pretty much every day.12 -
sarahmiller150 wrote: »Hey I’m Sarah!
I’m on my 6th day of no soda.
Is anyone else quitting soda?
Any success stories?
Any advice?
I quit drinking Mt dew on February 13th. I have only craved one 2x since both times was because I was stressed. I would drink 3 to 6 20oz bottles everyday.4 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.
I dunno, I just had my teeth cleaned on Monday and my dentist told me my teeth are in excellent shape and to keep up the good work, and I drink a diet coke pretty much every day.
That's great, but there are people who literally drink 2 liters of pop, (regular or diet a day). The more you drink, the greater chance of issues.8 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.
I dunno, I just had my teeth cleaned on Monday and my dentist told me my teeth are in excellent shape and to keep up the good work, and I drink a diet coke pretty much every day.
That's great, but there are people who literally drink 2 liters of pop, (regular or diet a day). The more you drink, the greater chance of issues.
Well, I can see that as a problem, since you'd pretty much always have the acid present in your mouth. I drink some water after the coke but if you were drinking that much your teeth would be exposed to the acid for a lot longer even so. I guess what I'm objecting to is the idea that drinking a coke or two most days while taking care of your teeth will inevitably cause damaged enamel and other issues.4 -
No it wont inevitably cause issues - but that doesnt mean drinking soda isnt a risk for tooth enamel.
Obviously one can mitigate this risk with good dental hygiene, as well as not sipping on soda all day (same goes for other things like, say, jelly babies - everyone who consumes jelly babies wont have poor teeth - but they are a risk and there are ways to mitigate this)
and obviously, as with all risk for all things, some people are affected more than others
The risk is still real - not a Facebook fantasy.
(I'm not against soda, diet or regular (or jelly babies for that matter) and I consume them now and then myself, as mentioned upthread )4 -
vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.9 -
I don't drink it that often; it's too expensive. When I buy it I have 3 cans a day and it's all gone before the end of the week. I usually only drink it when I eat out now but there's nothing 'wrong' with it per se2
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I enjoy soda, can't lie. I refuse to drink diet soda though as it has aspartame. They used to have this coca cola life that had stevia I believe but they don't do it any longer where I live.
I try to only have soda at the weekend or special occasions. I find flavoured fizzy water is delicious and the one I drink has no aspartame.
Other than that it is ice cold water for me- I like mine with lemon or fresh mint. Delicious!
Why do you fear amino acids?
Because that's all aspartame is. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p113 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.
I dunno, I just had my teeth cleaned on Monday and my dentist told me my teeth are in excellent shape and to keep up the good work, and I drink a diet coke pretty much every day.
That's great, but there are people who literally drink 2 liters of pop, (regular or diet a day). The more you drink, the greater chance of issues.
Well, I can see that as a problem, since you'd pretty much always have the acid present in your mouth. I drink some water after the coke but if you were drinking that much your teeth would be exposed to the acid for a lot longer even so. I guess what I'm objecting to is the idea that drinking a coke or two most days while taking care of your teeth will inevitably cause damaged enamel and other issues.
There are a number of factors that can impact the strength of tooth enamel and the likelihood of enamel erosion.
From this article
https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/guide/tooth-enamel-erosion-restoration#2
Tooth erosion happens when acids wear away the enamel on teeth. Enamel erosion can be caused by the following:
Excessive soft drink consumption (high levels of phosphoric and citric acids)
Fruit drinks (some acids in fruit drinks are more erosive than battery acid)
Dry mouth or low salivary flow (xerostomia)
Diet (high in sugar and starches)
Acid reflux disease (GERD)
Gastrointestinal problems
Medications (aspirin, antihistamines)
Genetics (inherited conditions)
Environmental factors (friction, wear and tear, stress, and corrosion
I'd guess for most people a couple pops a day would not be an issue, but what becomes "excessive" depends on how many risk factors one has.8 -
I totally quit soda. For me it was ulcers and had to give up acid food. Which was strange to think i actually would give it up. So i just decided i will try each day to not have any and the next thing you know i was no longer wanting it. I have not had a soda since Jan 5th.2
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I do old school diet Fresca. A can or two a day.3
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stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.5 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Weird! I always have great check ups with my dentist and I drink diet soda almost everyday.
That's one of the questions my dentist asks along with whether or not someone is a smoker and whether or not they've had braces in the past.
I dunno, I just had my teeth cleaned on Monday and my dentist told me my teeth are in excellent shape and to keep up the good work, and I drink a diet coke pretty much every day.
Had mine cleaned yesterday. I’m almost 60 and have drank diet soda for 35+ years - absolutely no problems with my tooth enamel.9 -
Has anyone been able to have a soda every now and then and not switch to diet? I am a fiend for a good Dr. Pepper, but I can't have diet because migraines.
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Has anyone been able to have a soda every now and then and not switch to diet? I am a fiend for a good Dr. Pepper, but I can't have diet because migraines.
Sure - just make room in your calories. Make sure you're meeting your nutrition goals, and plan in the soda as part of a treat now and then. If you like them, and can moderate, no need to cut them out just because
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gebeziseva wrote: »Haven't had a soda in 22 months and I don't miss it.
Use to drink a minimum of 3-4 cans a day. Sometimes drank as many as 6/day
That was a reduction of 420-840 cals a day or more than 33-50% of my current 1650 cal/day limit.
Totally empty cals that contributed to my getting fat when I drank them and simply eliminating them was all I needed to do to jump start my weight loss effort.
Doesn't mean that sodas are "evil" or that you can't lose weight while drinking sodas if they fit in your diet but, for me, it was just easier to eliminate them altogether.
There are calorie free versions of most soda drinks.
Only necessary if you miss the "taste" of your soda of choice.
I don't miss the taste and save a lot of money not buying soda anymore, calorie free or not.
The only beverages that I drink regularly any more are water, black coffee and plain tea.
I still drink some wine, beer and liquor but usually only 1 glass/pint or shot w/a meal but only if I can fit in the drink into my diet based on my cal/macro needs. If not, I just skip the alcohol.3 -
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45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!15 -
I am interested in following the progress of this post so I am replying without adding anything to the conversation.3
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Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
Geez - now even sparkling water is a problem?15 -
I grew up on soda, 80's kid here.... If I asked for a drink, soda was given.... in my 20's started getting kidney problems , stones, BIG stones in my early 30's had kidney stone surgery (not fun to go through) ....ugh... doc said no more soda...It was hard to give up. McDonald's fountain soda was my fav...oh the bubbles LOL... I do feel better with out it,less stomach aches, its been a few years since I had a soda, I don't think I could even drink a whole one now. Never could drink the diet sodas..I wish you good luck giving it up! 3
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stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
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Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
Geez - now even sparkling water is a problem?
Deriving any kind of joy from the consumption of foods/beverages clearly negates CICO. You MUST suffer if you want to lose weight, I guess. It's the only way. Join us. Gooble gobble.11 -
It's astounding how much soda some people drink! Where I come from, you'd have a glass of Sprite to celebrate the holidays. Anyways, it's tea/water/kombucha for me. I don't add sweeteners to my beverages, instead I make up for that with my chocolate and cake obsession. Kombucha can actually be a good soda substitute, since if it's double fermented, it has a lot of bubbles! It's more available in stores now and super easy to start brewing your own at home. Flavor it with anything you want, too. Or you can buy plain Seltzer and add some fruits, herbs, or sweetener of your choice.8
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I quit soda several years ago. I don't miss it one bit. Try drinking lemon or lime water instead when you want a little taste in your water. Your whole body will thank you!13
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I use an app that helps you quit bad habits. When I quit Coke, I put in how much I spent for my daily bottle and how many calories I drank with each bottle. I quit Coke on 12/5/2016. I've saved $709.04 and forgone around 113,444 calories. 7
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I gave up an amount of soda. Not all. Coke Zero for the win!6
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
For all of your anxiety-making over the acidity of diet soda, there's plenty of other foods just as acidic or more. Sodas are actually somewhat middle of the pack. Are you going to spend as much energy warning of the dental dangers of cranberry juice or white wine?
Some examples:- Diet Coke: 3.39 pH
- Orange juice: 3.30 - 4.45 pH
- Cranberry juice: 2.30 - 2.52 pH
- ACV: pH 3.10 pH
- Snapple tea: 3.20 pH
- Countrytime Lemonade 2.5 pH
- Tomato juice: 4.1 - 4.6 pH
- Wine 3.0 - 3.6 pH
- Milk: 6.4 - 6.8 pH
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