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Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
Geez - now even sparkling water is a problem?15 -
I grew up on soda, 80's kid here.... If I asked for a drink, soda was given.... in my 20's started getting kidney problems , stones, BIG stones in my early 30's had kidney stone surgery (not fun to go through) ....ugh... doc said no more soda...It was hard to give up. McDonald's fountain soda was my fav...oh the bubbles LOL... I do feel better with out it,less stomach aches, its been a few years since I had a soda, I don't think I could even drink a whole one now. Never could drink the diet sodas..I wish you good luck giving it up!
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stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
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Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
Geez - now even sparkling water is a problem?
Deriving any kind of joy from the consumption of foods/beverages clearly negates CICO. You MUST suffer if you want to lose weight, I guess. It's the only way. Join us. Gooble gobble.11 -
It's astounding how much soda some people drink! Where I come from, you'd have a glass of Sprite to celebrate the holidays. Anyways, it's tea/water/kombucha for me. I don't add sweeteners to my beverages, instead I make up for that with my chocolate and cake obsession. Kombucha can actually be a good soda substitute, since if it's double fermented, it has a lot of bubbles! It's more available in stores now and super easy to start brewing your own at home. Flavor it with anything you want, too. Or you can buy plain Seltzer and add some fruits, herbs, or sweetener of your choice.8
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I quit soda several years ago. I don't miss it one bit. Try drinking lemon or lime water instead when you want a little taste in your water. Your whole body will thank you!13
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I use an app that helps you quit bad habits. When I quit Coke, I put in how much I spent for my daily bottle and how many calories I drank with each bottle. I quit Coke on 12/5/2016. I've saved $709.04 and forgone around 113,444 calories. 7
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I gave up an amount of soda. Not all. Coke Zero for the win!6
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
For all of your anxiety-making over the acidity of diet soda, there's plenty of other foods just as acidic or more. Sodas are actually somewhat middle of the pack. Are you going to spend as much energy warning of the dental dangers of cranberry juice or white wine?
Some examples:- Diet Coke: 3.39 pH
- Orange juice: 3.30 - 4.45 pH
- Cranberry juice: 2.30 - 2.52 pH
- ACV: pH 3.10 pH
- Snapple tea: 3.20 pH
- Countrytime Lemonade 2.5 pH
- Tomato juice: 4.1 - 4.6 pH
- Wine 3.0 - 3.6 pH
- Milk: 6.4 - 6.8 pH
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
For all of your anxiety-making over the acidity of diet soda, there's plenty of other foods just as acidic or more. Sodas are actually somewhat middle of the pack. Are you going to spend as much energy warning of the dental dangers of cranberry juice or white wine?
Some examples:- Diet Coke: 3.39 pH
- Orange juice: 3.30 - 4.45 pH
- Cranberry juice: 2.30 - 2.52 pH
- ACV: pH 3.10 pH
- Snapple tea: 3.20 pH
- Countrytime Lemonade 2.5 pH
- Tomato juice: 4.1 - 4.6 pH
- Wine 3.0 - 3.6 pH
- Milk: 6.4 - 6.8 pH
Agree 100%. But on the flip side, people don't drink anywhere near the quantity of cranberry juice or white wine they do soda.8 -
Packerjohn wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
For all of your anxiety-making over the acidity of diet soda, there's plenty of other foods just as acidic or more. Sodas are actually somewhat middle of the pack. Are you going to spend as much energy warning of the dental dangers of cranberry juice or white wine?
Some examples:- Diet Coke: 3.39 pH
- Orange juice: 3.30 - 4.45 pH
- Cranberry juice: 2.30 - 2.52 pH
- ACV: pH 3.10 pH
- Snapple tea: 3.20 pH
- Countrytime Lemonade 2.5 pH
- Tomato juice: 4.1 - 4.6 pH
- Wine 3.0 - 3.6 pH
- Milk: 6.4 - 6.8 pH
Agree 100%. But on the flip side, people don't drink anywhere near the quantity of cranberry juice or white wine they do soda.
Speak for yourself...
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Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
It may be more impactful on your quality of life 40 years down the road. Keep up the effort.13 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
It may be more impactful on your quality of life 40 years down the road. Keep up the effort.
How so?11 -
I quite all fizzy drinks ect even reduced my coffee and drink only water notice am not as bloated and have more energy1
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I don't see a reason to do that. I drink 0-4 cans a week (250 ml each), so that's a maximum of 20 calories a week and it doesn't feel like a financial vampire - you know, that little stuff that adds up. If I don't drink soda I'm drinking lots of tea, not much difference in total price or calories per cup. I can't see a better financial or caloric deal to switch to.4
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Im in to sparkling water with a little lime. Tastes great & less filling... 0
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Packerjohn wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »vampirequeen1959 wrote: »Sarcasm is unnecessary. The acid in the Diet Coke attacks the tooth enamel and gums. Bacteria don't know or care if your drink is sweetened with sugar or an artificial sweetening substance. Either way the bacteria will happily take advantage of the weakness in teeth and gums. Given a nice cavity or gap in the gums that makes brushing more difficult, bacteria will thrive leading to decay and/or gingivitis. This information came from my dentist.
My comments regarding withdrawal symptoms are based on personal experience.
Bacteria don't know something is sweet.
Well,sure, single cell organisms dont really know or taste anything.
But acidic substances can be bad for your teeth as can sugar.
The person was insisting though that the bacteria can live off of sweeteners the same as if it was sugar. That's wrong already because of the dose.
Sure - but equally wrong is the idea that diet sodas present no risk to dental health - which some posters seem to be implying.
As with any risk, it can be mitigated - ie with good hygiene, not soaking teeth in substance all day long etc - and as with any risk, it will affect people differently - so the 'Ive drank sodas all my life and my teeth are perfect' posts don't really discount the risk
I am all for diet sodas - and regular sodas if people like them too - in moderation.
But lets not pretend dental risk is not a risk.
For all of your anxiety-making over the acidity of diet soda, there's plenty of other foods just as acidic or more. Sodas are actually somewhat middle of the pack. Are you going to spend as much energy warning of the dental dangers of cranberry juice or white wine?
Some examples:- Diet Coke: 3.39 pH
- Orange juice: 3.30 - 4.45 pH
- Cranberry juice: 2.30 - 2.52 pH
- ACV: pH 3.10 pH
- Snapple tea: 3.20 pH
- Countrytime Lemonade 2.5 pH
- Tomato juice: 4.1 - 4.6 pH
- Wine 3.0 - 3.6 pH
- Milk: 6.4 - 6.8 pH
Agree 100%. But on the flip side, people don't drink anywhere near the quantity of cranberry juice or white wine they do soda.
NO, but they do swap soda for tea(either sweet or unsweet. And that's just as bad(or worse) than diet soda.6 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Brookezuni wrote: »45 days clean from my Diet Coke problem. I was a hard core diet soda drinker my entire adult life. I find myself too dependent on sparkling water now, but have been working more and more plain water into the mix. An occasional unsweetened iced tea helps if I'm really dragging.
Trying to make a bunch of radical self-improvements at once (which has been hard), so I'm not sure if giving up the diet soda on it's own has been impactful, but I figure it can't hurt! Good luck!
It may be more impactful on your quality of life 40 years down the road. Keep up the effort.
How so?
If you would happen to be a person with tooth enamel that was susceptible to erosion, keeping your natural teeth would be nice.
Your dentist will be able to tell if this is an issue.1
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