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Oh, and can I just say, as there are 10000’s of fad diets out there, and different types of advise, sometimes it can be confusing for a novices dieter like me.
Many of us were in your shoes. I didn't know *anything* when I started counting calories, I learned as I went along (with lots of generous help from veterans here). It can be very confusing!10 -
Yes OP everything is probably ok in moderation I apologise6
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@WinoGelato thank you! Atleast you understand what I mean!!
I do understand what you meant with your question because I tend to think that most people know that eating nothing but chocolate cake and McDonalds wouldn't be a healthy, filling, approach. I also think that most people are sensible enough to want to find foods that are both nutritious and satiating - but also that they really want to know that they can still eat foods they enjoy (this was the crux of my first response in this thread) and don't have to give them up forever.
The reason the question gets off track is because it is frustrating first of all, that people are lead to believe by companies like Slimming World or any number of for profit weight loss companies that you CAN'T eat foods like this and still be successful. Then, even more frustrating, is that when people try to help explain to you that CALORIES are all that matter for WEIGHT LOSS, a bunch of other posters jump in and insinuate that we are suggesting a person SHOULD eat nothing but McDonalds and chocolate cake and that we are disregarding nutrition and overall health.
This question/topic is one that happens day in and day out around here, but that's also why when you posted multiple threads with the same basic question, people tend to get a little snippy.14 -
Chill peeps
I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that. 18 -
Oh, and can I just say, as there are 10000’s of fad diets out there, and different types of advise, sometimes it can be confusing for a novices dieter like me.
Shut out the noise. Just stick to the basics: calories and sustainability. If sustainability means McDonald's and cake sometimes (for most people that's the case), then that's the healthiest diet for you. Even the best diet in the world, with every morsel designed specifically for your nutritional needs, will not be healthy if you fail to stick to it and it causes you unnecessary stress.7 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Running_and_Coffee wrote: »I just mean if I’m on a night shift or something am I ok to grab a takeaway if it’s under my allowance? Or have a bit of chocolate or something? I don’t understand why some people are so angry at a question or think they must put other people down over a question? A ‘question’
So you can every now and then, but I would be careful because at least for me, I tend to feel more motivated to stay on track when I am eating more nutritious foods, while things like cake make me spiral into a frenzy of wanting more cake. So if it were a special occasion, sure, have a little cake, but I'd try to find an easier on-the-go option like hardboiled eggs and jerky vs. McD's. I mean, you know yourself better than anyone, but for me, those kinds of foods aren't really worth it. Not because you can't still lose weight and eat them, just because I think they make it harder to keep my head in the game.
And many other people find that restricting things they really enjoy set up tendencies toward binge restrict cycles.
Restricting something you really enjoy is a lot different than getting McDonald's drive-through on your way home from work. I'd rather plan ahead and not do McD's I can barely taste after a long, exhausting day, and save the "something I'd really enjoy" for a day when I can actually enjoy it. Stress eating greasy takeout food is totally different than really savoring the flavor of a favorite food. And if your favorite food IS greasy takeout food, that's great, but this sounded more like an issue of convenience.7 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
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catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Maybe you should offer why you think a takeaway is unhealthy? That sort of blanket statement is fairly broad and going to be difficult to generalize since takeaway could be a burger and fries from McDonalds, it could be a sub sandwich, it could be a naked burrito bowl from Chipotle, it could be a baked potato and side salad from Wendys... what is unhealthy about any of these things?
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Running_and_Coffee wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Running_and_Coffee wrote: »I just mean if I’m on a night shift or something am I ok to grab a takeaway if it’s under my allowance? Or have a bit of chocolate or something? I don’t understand why some people are so angry at a question or think they must put other people down over a question? A ‘question’
So you can every now and then, but I would be careful because at least for me, I tend to feel more motivated to stay on track when I am eating more nutritious foods, while things like cake make me spiral into a frenzy of wanting more cake. So if it were a special occasion, sure, have a little cake, but I'd try to find an easier on-the-go option like hardboiled eggs and jerky vs. McD's. I mean, you know yourself better than anyone, but for me, those kinds of foods aren't really worth it. Not because you can't still lose weight and eat them, just because I think they make it harder to keep my head in the game.
And many other people find that restricting things they really enjoy set up tendencies toward binge restrict cycles.
Restricting something you really enjoy is a lot different than getting McDonald's drive-through on your way home from work. I'd rather plan ahead and not do McD's I can barely taste after a long, exhausting day, and save the "something I'd really enjoy" for a day when I can actually enjoy it. Stress eating greasy takeout food is totally different than really savoring the flavor of a favorite food. And if your favorite food IS greasy takeout food, that's great, but this sounded more like an issue of convenience.
Taste preferences are really individualized. The OP specifically asked about McDonalds and Chocolate Cake. Whether she truly enjoys McDonalds or is choosing it out of convenience is a different question. She asked if she can still eat those foods and lose weight, and the answer is yes. She didn't say she wanted to eat nothing but those foods, she is under the impression that she may not be able to lose weight if she eats them because a company like Slimming World has suggested that they can't be part of her plan.
Personally I don't choose McDonalds with other fast food options available, but given the choice between that and hard boiled eggs and jerky, I would definitely go for the McDouble. See, personal preference.11 -
janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
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Can I just say I chose McDonald’s at random just to put a point to my question.. if I was going to have a choice it would definitely be a Indian takeaway!! But the chocolate cake was true.. I do like cake..17
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WinoGelato wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Maybe you should offer why you think a takeaway is unhealthy? That sort of blanket statement is fairly broad and going to be difficult to generalize since takeaway could be a burger and fries from McDonalds, it could be a sub sandwich, it could be a naked burrito bowl from Chipotle, it could be a baked potato and side salad from Wendys... what is unhealthy about any of these things?
Could you explain to me exactly what is nutritious and healthy about a generic McDonald burger and fries?
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catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
No...context of the overall diet. For the most part I eat very healthfully...tons of veg, couple servings of fruit...lots of legumes and lentils and whole grains along with lean sourced protein (lots of fish) and healthy fats. I also have pizza and movie night with my family most Friday nights. To boot, I workout 5-6 days per week. In the context of the whole, how relevant is the pizza night?
ETA: I don't really do McDonald's, but I occasionally have Wendy's...usually the Mediterranean chicken salad or a baked potato and chili.5 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
Is there only one thing that you can order at McDonalds? I was under the impression they had a menu with several different choices.
My normal at McDonalds is a McDouble with a diet coke, and I split a small fry with my kids. They also have salads, grilled chicken sandwiches, round eggs, etc if those are more your speed. How are any of those things unhealthy?13 -
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catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
It certainly can be.
Context.
Dosage.
These two words/concepts are critical in determining healthiness of dietary choices. And, FWIW: there's very little difference as to what happens when eating a Big Mac meal compared to similar "clean" meals - https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-fast-food-meal.html/. Study here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17536194. As mentioned, you probably don't want every meal to be fast-food, but in the context of OP, it'll almost certainly be fine.
eta: Additionally, I'm truly curious as to why - if it's supposedly unhealthy - why it would ever be OK to eat, even in moderation.7 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
So you're not talking about "takeaways" as a whole, but McDonald's specifically? I don't recall you stating that earlier. You specifically stated above: "I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways..." But okay, let's move the goalposts and pretend that you were just referring to McDonald's.
Yes, I think it's possible for someone to have a meal from McDonald's that fits within their calorie goals and helps them meet their nutritional needs for the day. Unless you're using some different definition of "healthy, nutritious meal," I would consider that to be a healthy and nutritious meal. Are you using an alternate definition? If so, how do you define it?
Even if you are using an alternate definition, your initial argument was that Slimming World didn't allow it because they were "unhealthy." But now we've established that they allow some candies and you don't know enough about Slimming World to explain why. This leaves your initial argument (McDonald's isn't allowed due to health concerns) on shaky ground.6 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Maybe you should offer why you think a takeaway is unhealthy? That sort of blanket statement is fairly broad and going to be difficult to generalize since takeaway could be a burger and fries from McDonalds, it could be a sub sandwich, it could be a naked burrito bowl from Chipotle, it could be a baked potato and side salad from Wendys... what is unhealthy about any of these things?
Could you explain to me exactly what is nutritious and healthy about a generic McDonald burger and fries?
McDouble:
Medium Fries (I usually split one of these with my husband).
They have protein, fat, and carbs in them. It's a bit high in sodium, but in the context of my overall diet - one meal, once every week or two, when we are out running around on a Saturday, is neither going to derail my calorie goals nor hamper my nutrition.
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catherineroberts87 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Maybe you should offer why you think a takeaway is unhealthy? That sort of blanket statement is fairly broad and going to be difficult to generalize since takeaway could be a burger and fries from McDonalds, it could be a sub sandwich, it could be a naked burrito bowl from Chipotle, it could be a baked potato and side salad from Wendys... what is unhealthy about any of these things?
Could you explain to me exactly what is nutritious and healthy about a generic McDonald burger and fries?
The goalposts keep moving. You first addressed takeaways generically. Then you said you were just talking about McDonald's. Now this McDonald's only sells two things, a burger and fries?11 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Maybe you should offer why you think a takeaway is unhealthy? That sort of blanket statement is fairly broad and going to be difficult to generalize since takeaway could be a burger and fries from McDonalds, it could be a sub sandwich, it could be a naked burrito bowl from Chipotle, it could be a baked potato and side salad from Wendys... what is unhealthy about any of these things?
Could you explain to me exactly what is nutritious and healthy about a generic McDonald burger and fries?
First, there are many things you can get at McDonalds, and in general that stuff is made out of the same stuff any other food is made out of. A Wendy's single is a hamburger patty, lettuce, tomato, pickles, ketchup and mayo on a bun, just like if I made a hamburger myself at home.
Second, if I am eating a "healthy" diet at home all week, why would getting a burger and fries for lunch on Friday make me unhealthy? Why would a salad of greens, grilled chicken, tomatoes, and Caesar dressing become unhealthy when put in a plastic takeaway container?
In general, fast food meals tend to be high in calories and sodium, and high in saturated fat, so I wouldn't suggest someone eat them all day every day. But I fail to see how a meal like that every now and then is unhealthy. And you can certainly find calorie-appropriate, fresh, lower fat options in most places now.
IMHO, healthy or unhealthy should apply to overall diet, not individual foods,18 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
Not McDonald's, but I'll give you context for the ice cream I had today. I spent a tad over 200 calories on it - not much, but this is just an example why it was the right choice for me today:
1. I wanted ice cream, and for my mental health and diet sustainability I deserve to not feel like dieting means suffering
2. I wasn't very hungry
3. I had the calories for it
4. I was lower on fat for the day than I'd like, so ice cream would plug that nutritional gap while helping me diet another day. Two birds.17 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
Not McDonald's, but I'll give you context for the ice cream I had today. I spent a tad over 200 calories on it - not much, but this is just an example why it was the right choice for me today:
1. I wanted ice cream, and for my mental health and diet sustainability I deserve to not feel like dieting means suffering
2. I wasn't very hungry
3. I had the calories for it
4. I was lower on fat for the day than I'd like, so ice cream would plug that nutritional gap while helping me diet another day. Two birds.
It is a truly beautiful day when you look at the food you've logged and realize a bowl of ice cream will get your numbers where you want them to be
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amusedmonkey wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
"Takeaway" covers a wide variety of food (at least it does in the US, where I live) and declaring all those foods blanket "healthy" or "unhealthy" without any context as to what they are or the overall content of a person's diet doesn't make sense to me.
If you're arguing that all allowed foods on Slimming World are healthy, I guess I'd want to know more about how you determined that Jelly Babies and Curly Wurly candies (both allowed on Slimming World) are somehow better for you than the types of foods that are prohibited. To my eyes, it looks like there is some randomness involved, not just a drive to eliminate all foods that meet a certain standard of unhealthfulness.
In this context we are taking about McDonald’s aren’t we...are you arguing that you think a mcdonalds meal is a healthy nutritious meal?
Like I said I don’t follow slimming world, I’m no expert.
Not McDonald's, but I'll give you context for the ice cream I had today. I spent a tad over 200 calories on it - not much, but this is just an example why it was the right choice for me today:
1. I wanted ice cream, and for my mental health and diet sustainability I deserve to not feel like dieting means suffering
2. I wasn't very hungry
3. I had the calories for it
4. I was lower on fat for the day than I'd like, so ice cream would plug that nutritional gap while helping me diet another day. Two birds.
It is a truly beautiful day when you look at the food you've logged and realize a bowl of ice cream will get your numbers where you want them to be
this!
i had ice cream with my breakfast yesterday - it was on top of my protein muffin that gets a bit dry - so i planned it out and had a serving of ice cream (56g and 140cal) - it fit well within my macros for the day and left my belly exceedingly happy7 -
Guess I'm just gonna say I enjoy a Big Mac and Fries once or twice a month and see nothing unhealthy about these choices. I don't know that a salad from McDonalds (or anywhere else for that matter) is better or worse for me than a Big Mac.
If someone really thinks this is an unhealthy choice, ball is in your court to prove it.
Can't have it everyday and feel zero guilt when I do.8 -
Hey, since we are all talking about our favourite clown...
I had my extra large coffee (24oz) with half milk (~70g 2% milk) on Saturday and because of how things were shaping out with timing I decided to overspend (yes, I consider McD's to now be verging on expensive... Wendy's chili with or without a plain baked potato or side salad is now less expensive) and get an Egg McMuffin with a grilled chicken patty from their new Southwest/Signature Chicken
So egg mcmuffin, no butter (cause it makes NO difference to taste for me and saves about 20 Cal), add maximum amount of red onions (cause onions are free at that store but not everywhere; a very few places will do free tomato or lettuce, most will charge). About 270-280 Cal without the butter. 280 to 310 with. Officially 290 in Canada.
And then a grilled chicken patty (ordered as a side patty, and specifying that it is the same one as the one they use in their signature chicken (takes about 7 minutes to prepare, make sure they use the add patty menu as opposed to selling you the full sandwich without a bun etc as that would be more $s) is basically a frozen boneless skinless chicken breast with slightly too much sodium in the solution that it has been "plumped up" with--no different than any other frozen chicken breast you buy! Wipe it with a stack of napkins to take care of any extra grease it may have picked up on the grill and there you go: 120 to 130 Cal boneless skinless grilled chicken breast.
So. We have an English Muffin, a large egg, some fresh onions, a slice of Canadian back bacon, some crappy processed cheese like any other crappy processed cheese they sell at the supermarket, and a frozen boneless chicken breast in a hand held sandwich.
Please explain to me how this is any different than another similar meal I would put together at home?
Possibly we can discuss that at home I would throw like 300-400g of tomatoes on my plate and gain bonus satiation and fruit/veggie points... but you COULD order a side salad for $2 and eat it without dressing.... and I wasn't at home!
BTW: topped up with an officially 230 Cal, but usually closer to 250 to 280 Cal vanilla ice cream cone... which thanks to this thread I am sheepishly going back and adding to my day since it had escaped recording (see why I say that you should log the food BEFORE you eat it if you're trying to lose weight)
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@stevephi01 thank you so much for that comment-you have really helped! I’ll defo take on what you said, it’s just hard to get my head around!
And not being able to sleep is down to nights, my body clock isn’t good at adjusting so I think my weight gain could be down to that too!
Have a good evening and thanks once again!
Thank you and am truly pleased it has helped in your quest to get those £'s off.
I'm also pleasantly surprised I didn't attract the woo's that I expected and would like to thank those who supported my post
I'm going to offer an approach to this, which is totally non related to this site in any form, but to show just how other aspects of our lives can contribute. In so doing I do not wish to alienate anyone for being specific in my choice of my pleasure in life.
I'm a motorcyclist and in some ways the challenges those of of us who find ourselves in uncertain circumstances have a parallel. Forgive me whilst I try and draw the similarities.
The weigh - not - as much as - you did, sort of commercial products, have a place for some. In the same way as in my pleasure world, the ability to go all out on a race track. I cannot comment on the 'weigh lower' offerings, but they are, in my mind similar, to the 'this is a sure fire way to go faster on the track'. You pays' your money and they teach how to get better for each corner - in the end you are faster, but only on that track. No use, in my opinion, 'outside the system'. This is where they are able to entrap their clients.
The other view is more road focused and we learn how to 'read the road', the upside here is we can achieve better results on something we have never encountered before - maybe not as fast but applies to all situations.
The concept of 'diet' scares me, that implies a deprivation for a period of time - after which normal programming resumes and guess what, the resumption of situation normal. Yip, as you were - not what we want to know.
Back to two wheels, we need to 'read the road' and focus -if we focus on a pot hole, we are 100 % sure that's where we will hit.
Read beyond that pothole and see the corner and possibly the next one, is really what makes us quicker - much to the annoyance of those who think we haven't a clue.
I can ride a bike, but am an ameteur at getting the most basic everyday fueling right.
Sounds silly, something we all do multi times a day and still get it wrong. Don't feel alone.
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its all about CICO. whether its jelly donuts, broccoli or fast food, if you burn more than you eat, no, it does NOT matter- you will lose weight.
what is nutritious and filling, is an entirely different issue.4 -
catherineroberts87 wrote: »Chill peeps I was referring to the ops question of why slimming world don’t allow takeaways...probably because they’re trying to promote healthy lifestyle /proper nutrition as well as weight loss. To those who don’t think takeaways are unhealthy...I don’t understand why you would think that.
Because we understand context and dosage, and the proper application of same in one's diet. That's why.
I had Wendy's for lunch today, first time I've eaten there in probably two years. A grilled chicken sandwich and a large chili. 672 calories (which fits well within my goal for the day), 73g carbs, 17g fat, 60g protein, 11g fiber. That meal included grains (the bun), vegetables (spinach leaves, lettuce and tomato), lean protein (chicken) and legumes (beans). Please enlighten me as to what's unhealthy about either the macro composition or the nutrients contained in my lunch. Kthx.11 -
Weight loss is difficult enough without the tendency to turn it into a moral issue. If you like McDonald's, there's nothing wrong with eating there once in a while. I'm pretty sure no one would advocate an all-McDonald's diet.15
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »its all about CICO. whether its jelly donuts, broccoli or fast food, if you burn more than you eat, no, it does NOT matter- you will lose weight.
what is nutritious and filling, is an entirely different issue.
I'm sorry, but that is confusing to a person trying to get onto the weight loss ladder. Some may be able to eat what they wish, within certain limits, but others can't.
It is almost as though gaining that higher level is an allusive, non attainable feat but hey hoe some have.
The loss is easier for some than others, factors which those who find it easier are scorned - so you climbed the mountain and can gloat -please it isn't about that, I did it whats wrong with you. If there were a sure fire one size fits all answer, we wouldn't be here.
see already I've upset the disciples, get over it. you have found nirvana, the rest of us aren't sure
I'm now goading you nah sayers, push that woo button. Sick and tired of the I've done it what's wrong with you, looser attitude. Get a grip on your approach, this isn't a religion or what ever likewise, no one hopefully gets killed - I really hope the conscious is we achieve our goals, no prizes.30
Bring on the curry! 
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