Why is (carefully planned) rapid weight loss bad?
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Here are the consequences of too rapid weight loss as I’ve witnessed from my bariatric support group.
Gall bladder failure. Brittle nails. Hair loss. Muscle loss. Heart damage.
It is hard to get enough protein with a too stiff deficit. What are you eating, chicken breast, egg whites and whey protein? A single pastry will push you over the edge.13 -
lucerorojo wrote: »Not a good idea to starve yourself for two days a week. I don't need any evidence to justify that. To me it is just COMMON SENSE. Eventually your body or mind is going to rebel or burnout with that schedule. You are not sitting on a mountain meditating. You have children, a job, family, and live in the modern world. That is enough daily stress. Adding two days when you don't eat anything sounds like it would make those days even worse. But good luck to you. It seems like you've already decided.
Yeah, this was the comment that had me shaking my head:I also want to do some extended fasts in there, just for the fun of it and the challenge mostly, assuming it can't hurt.
Clearly, we all need more challenges when it comes to our weight loss
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I did not read all the comments, so here is my 2 cents. Lyle McDonald talks about intermittent caloric restriction. People diet 2 days a week, high deficits around 25% of maintenance, then eat maintenance the other 5. So much like 5/2 fasting I guess.2
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Yeah, this was the comment that had me shaking my head:I also want to do some extended fasts in there, just for the fun of it and the challenge mostly, assuming it can't hurt.
Clearly, we all need more challenges when it comes to our weight loss[/quote]
That "just for fun" part rang the alarm for me too.
Apparently OP hasn't come back so she hasn't found the validation she was looking for. Or she's made up her mind and flounced off to do her thing.
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New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »
That "just for fun" part rang the alarm for me too.
Apparently OP hasn't come back so she hasn't found the validation she was looking for. Or she's made up her mind and flounced off to do her thing.
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At least it will likely be a short-lived experiment, based on the OP's history.12 -
TavistockToad wrote: »walk for exercise
I don't know if walking counts as exercise really, it's not exactly hard work.
It is movement, and all movement counts - you don't have to beat the crap out of yourself to lose weight. I am only trying to lose 30 lbs, and I managed to bust through 14 of them in 4 months by just walking and counting calories.
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JoAnna4731 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »walk for exercise
I don't know if walking counts as exercise really, it's not exactly hard work.
It is movement, and all movement counts - you don't have to beat the crap out of yourself to lose weight. I am only trying to lose 30 lbs, and I managed to bust through 14 of them in 4 months by just walking and counting calories.
Not only that, walking can be as challenging as you make it. It can be pretty hard work. I challenge OP to try walking as fast as her legs can manage up a hill carrying a backpack. I highly doubt she would think that walking is "not exactly hard work" after 10 minutes of that.
Really, all I hear is excuses. If someone doesn't want to work out, that's their choice, and it's okay, but coming up with all the reasons why they can't always makes me wonder how they think.15 -
Well, if we did get trolled, there is a heck of a lot of good information on here that maybe others, that are truly in need, but afraid to ask, could read.30
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I don't think she was trolling. She has posted over 500 times on here and her photo is there. Maybe she is fasting today and going on MFP makes her think of food....6
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I've skimmed through the thread, but forgive me if I've missed something.
OP, if you are comfortable doing OMAD, is there a reason you can't do this every day and be done with it (at the correct calorie level)? Why throw in the added element of completely fasting for 2 days? Do you really understand what people are telling you that there is a limit to how much body fat a person's body can burn in one day, regardless of their current "fat stores"?
Honestly I probably will make OMAD the main "everyday" plan (with 16:8 on weekends actually) but I also want to do some extended fasts in there, just for the fun of it and the challenge mostly, assuming it can't hurt.
And no... I do not currently believe that we can't burn sufficient fat to support our metabolic needs during fasting, I would like to see evidence for that.
'Cuz Gandhi always got that buff, ripped look when the fat over his muscles disappeared during a fast.9 -
It has taken me a life time to lose weight, every time I have done it I lose massive weight and then keep it off for quite a few years until my heart gets broken, and then my hand and mouth become best friends. When you have cancer most people think you would look like a skinny rat but it kills your immune system and its hard to lose weight later on. But to take that outside an shake that image off. What really hurts me is the FEAR OF DEATH! And what would happen if I died, then who would take care of my kids, or who would take care of my grandchild. This has been my biggest issue. Death! the fear to go jogging stopped me because of being attacked, I carried that fear everywhere I have gone. The fear that if I take my grandchild to the park and I have a heart attack she would be left alone and she could be kidnaped. the fear that if I was driving with my grandchild in the car and I would have a accident she would or could be hurt. These fears are REAL and they are Paranoia and in that it is Real FEAR!~
But, to stay in the house, do “home schooling” (K-12). The computer does all for kids now with 3 teachers so you don't even have to be smart as long as the child is dedicated. The reason I said that is when you stay home the frig is steps away and boredom sets in, and I can walk to my frig 30 or 100 times a day without thought. To exercise in your house alone without anyone else wanting to support you is very hard to find the motivation.
It has taken me many years and 7yrs in fact with home schooling to finally have my own life, but still in the house for protection for 8 hrs. a day. I can now go out my door and sunbath, I can exercise in my room, I can fix small meals and cook things I like not having to worry about who likes what.
To Find YOURSELF! is not a easy thing. When you’re no longer "The Wife", or "The MOTHER". "The Teacher" or "The Preacher", "The Live in Nurse", "The Grandmother". All these Names or Titles! Little by little are fading away and the only thing left is "ME" "MYSELF" and "I".
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I'm no expert, but I'vetaken many classes in regards to the body in college. This does not sound healthy. You need food to keep your body energized. Also when you don't eat your body goes into starvation mode and stores fat. I think you need to find a good plan and work towards self control with your eating. Dieting doesn't work, lifestyle changes do. Fasting for 2 days does not sound like a healthy lifestyle, but working on self control with food is great for a new lifestyle.17
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LyssaRonnell wrote: »I'm no expert, but I'vetaken many classes in regards to the body in college. This does not sound healthy. You need food to keep your body energized. Also when you don't eat your body goes into starvation mode and stores fat. I think you need to find a good plan and work towards self control with your eating. Dieting doesn't work, lifestyle changes do. Fasting for 2 days does not sound like a healthy lifestyle, but working on self control with food is great for a new lifestyle.
Starvation mode isn't a thing. Adaptative Thermogenesis definitely is, which is where your body will adapt and slow it's metabolic functions down.7 -
LyssaRonnell wrote: »I'm no expert, but I'vetaken many classes in regards to the body in college. This does not sound healthy. You need food to keep your body energized. Also when you don't eat your body goes into starvation mode and stores fat. I think you need to find a good plan and work towards self control with your eating. Dieting doesn't work, lifestyle changes do. Fasting for 2 days does not sound like a healthy lifestyle, but working on self control with food is great for a new lifestyle.
Starvation mode isn’t real2 -
LyssaRonnell wrote: »I'm no expert, but I'vetaken many classes in regards to the body in college. This does not sound healthy. You need food to keep your body energized. Also when you don't eat your body goes into starvation mode and stores fat. I think you need to find a good plan and work towards self control with your eating. Dieting doesn't work, lifestyle changes do. Fasting for 2 days does not sound like a healthy lifestyle, but working on self control with food is great for a new lifestyle.
If that's what they taught you, you should sue to get your tuition back.
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