Apple Cidar Vinegar
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I love how ACV refuses to die despite being complete codswollop!
It's a classic case of a small and badly conducted study by a company which produces ACV being completely misinterpreted by the media as a quick fix.
Japanese paper published in 2009 "Vinegar intake reduces body weight, body fat mass, and serum triglyceride levels in obese Japanese subjects. Kondo T1, Kishi M, Fushimi T, Ugajin S, Kaga T."
However, it was conducted at the Central Research Institute of the Mizkan Group Corporation. You'll never guess what they produce, market and sell. Yep you guessed it Apple Cider Vinegar.4 -
Stockholm_Andy wrote: »I love how ACV refuses to die despite being complete codswollop!
It's a classic case of a small and badly conducted study by a company which produces ACV being completely misinterpreted by the media as a quick fix.
Japanese paper published in 2009 "Vinegar intake reduces body weight, body fat mass, and serum triglyceride levels in obese Japanese subjects. Kondo T1, Kishi M, Fushimi T, Ugajin S, Kaga T."
However, it was conducted at the Central Research Institute of the Mizkan Group Corporation. You'll never guess what they produce, market and sell. Yep you guessed it Apple Cider Vinegar.
the ACV myth has been around a lot longer than 2009, at least as far back as the 1970's..2 -
just started there just nearly threw up hahahah but i will give it a go i done 1 part vinegar 3 parts water to protect enamal
Did you not read all the posts above yours that said there are no weight loss benefits to using ACV? Still going to give it a go, even though it’s making you gag? Why?12 -
WinoGelato wrote: »just started there just nearly threw up hahahah but i will give it a go i done 1 part vinegar 3 parts water to protect enamal
Did you not read all the posts above yours that said there are no weight loss benefits to using ACV? Still going to give it a go, even though it’s making you gag? Why?
I'm not the OP but I'm guessing the lure of the quick fix magic formula is to blame.7 -
crisberube wrote: »How many of you drink ACV everyday? If you do does it help with weight loss and general well-being? What is your favorite combination of ACV mixture? Im thinking of starting to drink it but looking for input
Try eating 5 hamburgers, 2 hot dogs, a pint of ice cream and drink apple cider vinegar....let me know if the apple cider vinegar worked....of course I am being sarcastic....It's all about calories, apple cider vinegar won't do *kitten* if the rest of your diet is garbage. If you must take apple cider vinegar, it would be because you enjoy it on your salads (or food) or for whatever reason. Apple cider vinegar on it's own won't do anything. Not saying that it doesn't have benefits, but if you're relying it for just weight loss alone, you will be sadly disappointed.3 -
I use it in my BBQ sauce - especially good on pork steaks & ribs.3
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tropicalchicy wrote: »
https://youtu.be/tfRuCT0T_W0
Not sure if the link will work but this video gives you an idea of the benefits (or lack there of).
Bookmarking for future ACV threads, thanks!
"Great if you need a floor cleaner you can drink or a skinnier rat" LMAO.6 -
The only thing drinking ACV will help you lose is your will to live.
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I use it for the psoriasis on my scalp but wouldn't drink it even if it did help lose weight...bleh4
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Why would people drink that crap when they know it doesn't work? Stop the woo!! Pseudoscience kills.3
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I take it. Make sure you mix it with lots of water.20
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Claims. I guess it can't hurt.
Blood sugar control — Vinegar is said to be antiglycemic and has a beneficial effect on your blood sugar, likely due to its acetic acid content, which prevents the complete digestion of complex carbohydrates. Another theory is that vinegar helps inactivate digestive enzymes that break down carbohydrates into sugar, thus slowing the conversion of complex carbohydrate into sugar, preventing a spike by giving you more time to pull sugar out of your blood.
There are studies supporting the use of vinegar as a diabetic treatment as well. One study1 found vinegar treatment improved insulin sensitivity in 19 percent of individuals with Type 2 diabetes and 34 percent of those with prediabetes.
Heart health — Polyphenols such as chlorogenic acid help inhibit oxidation of LDL cholesterol,2 while acetic acid helps lower blood pressure.3 Vinegar has also been shown to lower triglyceride levels and VLDL (very low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol in animals.4
Weight management — Vinegar may aid weight loss by increasing satiety, another effect attributed to acetic acid. For instance, when volunteers consumed a small amount of vinegar along with a high-carb meal (a bagel and juice) they consumed less food for the remainder of the day. The reduction equated to about 200 to 275 calories a day — an amount that would result in a monthly weight loss of up to 1.5 pounds.5
Sinus congestion — Apple cider vinegar's ability to break up and reduce mucus in your body can help clear your sinuses. It also has antibacterial properties, making it useful for infections. Here's what to do:6
Add one-half to 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to a cup of warm filtered water. Stir until thoroughly mixed.
Using a neti pot, pour the mixture into one nostril at a time, while plugging the other nostril with the other hand.
Sore throat — The antibacterial properties of apple cider vinegar may be useful for sore throats as well. Gargle with a mixture of about one-third cup of apple cider vinegar mixed with warm water as needed. Apple cider vinegar with honey and ginger for a sore throat is also a popular and effective remedy. Another mixture for sore throat, recommended by Bonnie K. McMillen, a nurse from the University of Pittsburgh, includes:7
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon raw honey
1/4 teaspoon ground ginger
Optional: 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
Digestive ailments — Acid reflux typically results from a lack of stomach acid. You can easily improve the acid content of your stomach by taking 1 tablespoon of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar in a large glass of water daily. The pectin in apple cider vinegar may also help to soothe intestinal spasms. For everyday gut health, a mixture of 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar with 1 teaspoon of raw honey in 1 cup of warm water can help.
Skin irritations and warts — Apple cider vinegar also works for a variety of skin ailments, from bug bites and poison ivy to sunburn and even warts. You can either apply it directly to the irritated area or try soaking in a bath with about 1 cup of vinegar added. For warts, soak a cotton ball in vinegar and apply it to the wart, covered, overnight. Repeat until the wart disappears.
Energy boost — Apple cider vinegar contains potassium and enzymes to help banish fatigue. Plus, its amino acids may help prevent the buildup of lactic acid in your body, further preventing fatigue.8
Detox and immune support — Studies have shown apple cider vinegar can be beneficial for liver detoxification and helps cleanse your lymphatic system, which can contribute to improved immune system response. According to The Truth About Cancer:9
"Cider vinegar was … determined to be a strong antimicrobial agent … One of the most fatal bacterium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, is resistant to disinfectants but is found to be killed by acetic acid. Especially in patients who are immunosuppressed, apple cider vinegar is an excellent natural antimicrobial tonic to rid of harmful bacteria and provide immune support."
Candida — Candida overgrowth in your gut has been linked to many different health issues, including yeast infections, fatigue, poor memory, depression, headaches and sugar cravings.
Candida overgrowth usually happens when your body is too acidic from excessive consumption of processed foods or sugar, or if there are insufficient healthy bacteria in your system. Because apple cider vinegar is fermented with a beneficial yeast, it can serve as a prebiotic for healthy bacteria, essentially helping good bacteria grow.47 -
sunnyside1213 wrote: »Claims. I guess it can't hurt.
Blood sugar control — Vinegar is said to be antiglycemic and has a beneficial effect on your blood sugar, likely due to its acetic acid content, which prevents the complete digestion of complex carbohydrates. Another theory is that vinegar helps inactivate digestive enzymes that break down carbohydrates into sugar, thus slowing the conversion of complex carbohydrate into sugar, preventing a spike by giving you more time to pull sugar out of your blood.
There are studies supporting the use of vinegar as a diabetic treatment as well. One study1 found vinegar treatment improved insulin sensitivity in 19 percent of individuals with Type 2 diabetes and 34 percent of those with prediabetes.
Heart health — Polyphenols such as chlorogenic acid help inhibit oxidation of LDL cholesterol,2 while acetic acid helps lower blood pressure.3 Vinegar has also been shown to lower triglyceride levels and VLDL (very low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol in animals.4
Weight management — Vinegar may aid weight loss by increasing satiety, another effect attributed to acetic acid. For instance, when volunteers consumed a small amount of vinegar along with a high-carb meal (a bagel and juice) they consumed less food for the remainder of the day. The reduction equated to about 200 to 275 calories a day — an amount that would result in a monthly weight loss of up to 1.5 pounds.5
Sinus congestion — Apple cider vinegar's ability to break up and reduce mucus in your body can help clear your sinuses. It also has antibacterial properties, making it useful for infections. Here's what to do:6
Add one-half to 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to a cup of warm filtered water. Stir until thoroughly mixed.
Using a neti pot, pour the mixture into one nostril at a time, while plugging the other nostril with the other hand.
Sore throat — The antibacterial properties of apple cider vinegar may be useful for sore throats as well. Gargle with a mixture of about one-third cup of apple cider vinegar mixed with warm water as needed. Apple cider vinegar with honey and ginger for a sore throat is also a popular and effective remedy. Another mixture for sore throat, recommended by Bonnie K. McMillen, a nurse from the University of Pittsburgh, includes:7
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon raw honey
1/4 teaspoon ground ginger
Optional: 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
Digestive ailments — Acid reflux typically results from a lack of stomach acid. You can easily improve the acid content of your stomach by taking 1 tablespoon of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar in a large glass of water daily. The pectin in apple cider vinegar may also help to soothe intestinal spasms. For everyday gut health, a mixture of 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar with 1 teaspoon of raw honey in 1 cup of warm water can help.
Skin irritations and warts — Apple cider vinegar also works for a variety of skin ailments, from bug bites and poison ivy to sunburn and even warts. You can either apply it directly to the irritated area or try soaking in a bath with about 1 cup of vinegar added. For warts, soak a cotton ball in vinegar and apply it to the wart, covered, overnight. Repeat until the wart disappears.
Energy boost — Apple cider vinegar contains potassium and enzymes to help banish fatigue. Plus, its amino acids may help prevent the buildup of lactic acid in your body, further preventing fatigue.8
Detox and immune support — Studies have shown apple cider vinegar can be beneficial for liver detoxification and helps cleanse your lymphatic system, which can contribute to improved immune system response. According to The Truth About Cancer:9
"Cider vinegar was … determined to be a strong antimicrobial agent … One of the most fatal bacterium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, is resistant to disinfectants but is found to be killed by acetic acid. Especially in patients who are immunosuppressed, apple cider vinegar is an excellent natural antimicrobial tonic to rid of harmful bacteria and provide immune support."
Candida — Candida overgrowth in your gut has been linked to many different health issues, including yeast infections, fatigue, poor memory, depression, headaches and sugar cravings.
Candida overgrowth usually happens when your body is too acidic from excessive consumption of processed foods or sugar, or if there are insufficient healthy bacteria in your system. Because apple cider vinegar is fermented with a beneficial yeast, it can serve as a prebiotic for healthy bacteria, essentially helping good bacteria grow.
You didn't read the thread. Guess how we know?11 -
sunnyside1213 wrote: »Claims. I guess it can't hurt.
Blood sugar control — Vinegar is said to be antiglycemic and has a beneficial effect on your blood sugar, likely due to its acetic acid content, which prevents the complete digestion of complex carbohydrates. Another theory is that vinegar helps inactivate digestive enzymes that break down carbohydrates into sugar, thus slowing the conversion of complex carbohydrate into sugar, preventing a spike by giving you more time to pull sugar out of your blood.
There are studies supporting the use of vinegar as a diabetic treatment as well. One study1 found vinegar treatment improved insulin sensitivity in 19 percent of individuals with Type 2 diabetes and 34 percent of those with prediabetes.
Heart health — Polyphenols such as chlorogenic acid help inhibit oxidation of LDL cholesterol,2 while acetic acid helps lower blood pressure.3 Vinegar has also been shown to lower triglyceride levels and VLDL (very low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol in animals.4
Weight management — Vinegar may aid weight loss by increasing satiety, another effect attributed to acetic acid. For instance, when volunteers consumed a small amount of vinegar along with a high-carb meal (a bagel and juice) they consumed less food for the remainder of the day. The reduction equated to about 200 to 275 calories a day — an amount that would result in a monthly weight loss of up to 1.5 pounds.5
Sinus congestion — Apple cider vinegar's ability to break up and reduce mucus in your body can help clear your sinuses. It also has antibacterial properties, making it useful for infections. Here's what to do:6
Add one-half to 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to a cup of warm filtered water. Stir until thoroughly mixed.
Using a neti pot, pour the mixture into one nostril at a time, while plugging the other nostril with the other hand.
Sore throat — The antibacterial properties of apple cider vinegar may be useful for sore throats as well. Gargle with a mixture of about one-third cup of apple cider vinegar mixed with warm water as needed. Apple cider vinegar with honey and ginger for a sore throat is also a popular and effective remedy. Another mixture for sore throat, recommended by Bonnie K. McMillen, a nurse from the University of Pittsburgh, includes:7
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon raw honey
1/4 teaspoon ground ginger
Optional: 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
Digestive ailments — Acid reflux typically results from a lack of stomach acid. You can easily improve the acid content of your stomach by taking 1 tablespoon of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar in a large glass of water daily. The pectin in apple cider vinegar may also help to soothe intestinal spasms. For everyday gut health, a mixture of 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar with 1 teaspoon of raw honey in 1 cup of warm water can help.
Skin irritations and warts — Apple cider vinegar also works for a variety of skin ailments, from bug bites and poison ivy to sunburn and even warts. You can either apply it directly to the irritated area or try soaking in a bath with about 1 cup of vinegar added. For warts, soak a cotton ball in vinegar and apply it to the wart, covered, overnight. Repeat until the wart disappears.
Energy boost — Apple cider vinegar contains potassium and enzymes to help banish fatigue. Plus, its amino acids may help prevent the buildup of lactic acid in your body, further preventing fatigue.8
Detox and immune support — Studies have shown apple cider vinegar can be beneficial for liver detoxification and helps cleanse your lymphatic system, which can contribute to improved immune system response. According to The Truth About Cancer:9
"Cider vinegar was … determined to be a strong antimicrobial agent … One of the most fatal bacterium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, is resistant to disinfectants but is found to be killed by acetic acid. Especially in patients who are immunosuppressed, apple cider vinegar is an excellent natural antimicrobial tonic to rid of harmful bacteria and provide immune support."
Candida — Candida overgrowth in your gut has been linked to many different health issues, including yeast infections, fatigue, poor memory, depression, headaches and sugar cravings.
Candida overgrowth usually happens when your body is too acidic from excessive consumption of processed foods or sugar, or if there are insufficient healthy bacteria in your system. Because apple cider vinegar is fermented with a beneficial yeast, it can serve as a prebiotic for healthy bacteria, essentially helping good bacteria grow.
The source for this is Joseph Mercola, an HIV denialist who has been repeatedly warned by the FDA about fradulent claims and failing to properly test his products before selling them to people.30 -
I've been mulling the ACV (and other weight loss woo) over lately, because of all the threads (sometimes 2 or 3 on the same page!) I don't think some of the proponents think you can eat all the foods and lose weight, I think the thought process may go something like this:
Set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week (regardless of the number of lbs to lose) Eat that many calories
ACV may give a weight loss a boost so drink it and lose a few more ounces a week
Eating celery may burn more calories than it contains, so eat it and lose a few more ounces a week
[Insert fad fat burner] may give a weight loss boost so take it daily and lose a few more ounces a week
Use a few more magical woo products and lose a few more ounces a week
Voila! Lose 3 lbs a week with the same deficit that would cause the loss of 2 lbs per week!
At least this is my thinking when I was in my 20's. I understood calorie counting, and did it when I wanted to lose weight, but didn't really understand energy balance and really bought into the magical weight loss tips. Everything I knew about dieting I learned from women's magazines, and there was no internet to present alternate points of view backed up by science. I'm truly grateful I am so much better educated now.
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I've been mulling the ACV (and other weight loss woo) over lately, because of all the threads (sometimes 2 or 3 on the same page!) I don't think some of the proponents think you can eat all the foods and lose weight, I think the thought process may go something like this:
Set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week (regardless of the number of lbs to lose) Eat that many calories
ACV may give a weight loss a boost so drink it and lose a few more ounces a week
Eating celery may burn more calories than it contains, so eat it and lose a few more ounces a week
[Insert fad fat burner] may give a weight loss boost so take it daily and lose a few more ounces a week
Use a few more magical woo products and lose a few more ounces a week
Voila! Lose 3 lbs a week with the same deficit that would cause the loss of 2 lbs per week!
At least this is my thinking when I was in my 20's. I understood calorie counting, and did it when I wanted to lose weight, but didn't really understand energy balance and really bought into the magical weight loss tips. Everything I knew about dieting I learned from women's magazines, and there was no internet to present alternate points of view backed up by science. I'm truly grateful I am so much better educated now.
The real problem with this thinking is that adding up all those ounces means they don't have to effectively or accurately track calories.
When in fact what it actually means is that those ounces only matter if everything else is already lined up perfectly.
IF/Meal timing/carb cycling/keto/etc have a huge impact for weight class and BF% competitive athletes who are tracking exercise and dietary calories to the third decimal point, they have no measureable impact for someone who has 80 lbs to lose and is eyeballing their portions.2 -
sunnyside1213 wrote: »Claims. I guess it can't hurt.
Blood sugar control — Vinegar is said to be antiglycemic and has a beneficial effect on your blood sugar, likely due to its acetic acid content, which prevents the complete digestion of complex carbohydrates. Another theory is that vinegar helps inactivate digestive enzymes that break down carbohydrates into sugar, thus slowing the conversion of complex carbohydrate into sugar, preventing a spike by giving you more time to pull sugar out of your blood.
There are studies supporting the use of vinegar as a diabetic treatment as well. One study1 found vinegar treatment improved insulin sensitivity in 19 percent of individuals with Type 2 diabetes and 34 percent of those with prediabetes.
Heart health — Polyphenols such as chlorogenic acid help inhibit oxidation of LDL cholesterol,2 while acetic acid helps lower blood pressure.3 Vinegar has also been shown to lower triglyceride levels and VLDL (very low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol in animals.4
Weight management — Vinegar may aid weight loss by increasing satiety, another effect attributed to acetic acid. For instance, when volunteers consumed a small amount of vinegar along with a high-carb meal (a bagel and juice) they consumed less food for the remainder of the day. The reduction equated to about 200 to 275 calories a day — an amount that would result in a monthly weight loss of up to 1.5 pounds.5
Sinus congestion — Apple cider vinegar's ability to break up and reduce mucus in your body can help clear your sinuses. It also has antibacterial properties, making it useful for infections. Here's what to do:6
Add one-half to 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to a cup of warm filtered water. Stir until thoroughly mixed.
Using a neti pot, pour the mixture into one nostril at a time, while plugging the other nostril with the other hand.
Sore throat — The antibacterial properties of apple cider vinegar may be useful for sore throats as well. Gargle with a mixture of about one-third cup of apple cider vinegar mixed with warm water as needed. Apple cider vinegar with honey and ginger for a sore throat is also a popular and effective remedy. Another mixture for sore throat, recommended by Bonnie K. McMillen, a nurse from the University of Pittsburgh, includes:7
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon raw honey
1/4 teaspoon ground ginger
Optional: 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
Digestive ailments — Acid reflux typically results from a lack of stomach acid. You can easily improve the acid content of your stomach by taking 1 tablespoon of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar in a large glass of water daily. The pectin in apple cider vinegar may also help to soothe intestinal spasms. For everyday gut health, a mixture of 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar with 1 teaspoon of raw honey in 1 cup of warm water can help.
Skin irritations and warts — Apple cider vinegar also works for a variety of skin ailments, from bug bites and poison ivy to sunburn and even warts. You can either apply it directly to the irritated area or try soaking in a bath with about 1 cup of vinegar added. For warts, soak a cotton ball in vinegar and apply it to the wart, covered, overnight. Repeat until the wart disappears.
Energy boost — Apple cider vinegar contains potassium and enzymes to help banish fatigue. Plus, its amino acids may help prevent the buildup of lactic acid in your body, further preventing fatigue.8
Detox and immune support — Studies have shown apple cider vinegar can be beneficial for liver detoxification and helps cleanse your lymphatic system, which can contribute to improved immune system response. According to The Truth About Cancer:9
"Cider vinegar was … determined to be a strong antimicrobial agent … One of the most fatal bacterium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, is resistant to disinfectants but is found to be killed by acetic acid. Especially in patients who are immunosuppressed, apple cider vinegar is an excellent natural antimicrobial tonic to rid of harmful bacteria and provide immune support."
Candida — Candida overgrowth in your gut has been linked to many different health issues, including yeast infections, fatigue, poor memory, depression, headaches and sugar cravings.
Candida overgrowth usually happens when your body is too acidic from excessive consumption of processed foods or sugar, or if there are insufficient healthy bacteria in your system. Because apple cider vinegar is fermented with a beneficial yeast, it can serve as a prebiotic for healthy bacteria, essentially helping good bacteria grow.
Please, don't steal other people's work by quoting an article without a link. That's just the lowest of the low.
Source: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/01/01/apple-cider-vinegar-black-seed-oil-benefits.aspx24 -
stanmann571 wrote: »I've been mulling the ACV (and other weight loss woo) over lately, because of all the threads (sometimes 2 or 3 on the same page!) I don't think some of the proponents think you can eat all the foods and lose weight, I think the thought process may go something like this:
Set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week (regardless of the number of lbs to lose) Eat that many calories
ACV may give a weight loss a boost so drink it and lose a few more ounces a week
Eating celery may burn more calories than it contains, so eat it and lose a few more ounces a week
[Insert fad fat burner] may give a weight loss boost so take it daily and lose a few more ounces a week
Use a few more magical woo products and lose a few more ounces a week
Voila! Lose 3 lbs a week with the same deficit that would cause the loss of 2 lbs per week!
At least this is my thinking when I was in my 20's. I understood calorie counting, and did it when I wanted to lose weight, but didn't really understand energy balance and really bought into the magical weight loss tips. Everything I knew about dieting I learned from women's magazines, and there was no internet to present alternate points of view backed up by science. I'm truly grateful I am so much better educated now.
The real problem with this thinking is that adding up all those ounces means they don't have to effectively or accurately track calories.
When in fact what it actually means is that those ounces only matter if everything else is already lined up perfectly.
IF/Meal timing/carb cycling/keto/etc have a huge impact for weight class and BF% competitive athletes who are tracking exercise and dietary calories to the third decimal point, they have no measureable impact for someone who has 80 lbs to lose and is eyeballing their portions.
Oh, I absolutely agree! Whether or not anything may work (in the realm of a few calories per day), it's absolutely meaningless in the context of daily weight fluctuations and CICO tracking inaccuracies. And the woo articles always present the "information" in the format of "may aid in weight loss", "animal studies have shown" and "encouraging results" when they bother to footnote. There's never even one definitive, legitimate study that shows actual repeatable results.0 -
also most acid reflux is not low acid. while low acid can cause acid reflux, it is consider abnormal
livers, kidneys, and lymphatic systems do not need help detoxing your body (typically)1 -
diannethegeek wrote: »Please, don't steal other people's work by quoting an article without a link. That's just the lowest of the low.
Source: <link deleted because MercoLOLa>
My only objection would be calling Mercola's woo "work".
He's nothing but a fearmongerer and a scammy snake oil peddler.14
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