Apple Cidar Vinegar

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  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    mph323 wrote: »
    I've been mulling the ACV (and other weight loss woo) over lately, because of all the threads (sometimes 2 or 3 on the same page!) I don't think some of the proponents think you can eat all the foods and lose weight, I think the thought process may go something like this:

    Set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week (regardless of the number of lbs to lose) Eat that many calories
    ACV may give a weight loss a boost so drink it and lose a few more ounces a week
    Eating celery may burn more calories than it contains, so eat it and lose a few more ounces a week
    [Insert fad fat burner] may give a weight loss boost so take it daily and lose a few more ounces a week
    Use a few more magical woo products and lose a few more ounces a week
    Voila! Lose 3 lbs a week with the same deficit that would cause the loss of 2 lbs per week!

    At least this is my thinking when I was in my 20's. I understood calorie counting, and did it when I wanted to lose weight, but didn't really understand energy balance and really bought into the magical weight loss tips. Everything I knew about dieting I learned from women's magazines, and there was no internet to present alternate points of view backed up by science. I'm truly grateful I am so much better educated now.

    The real problem with this thinking is that adding up all those ounces means they don't have to effectively or accurately track calories.

    When in fact what it actually means is that those ounces only matter if everything else is already lined up perfectly.

    IF/Meal timing/carb cycling/keto/etc have a huge impact for weight class and BF% competitive athletes who are tracking exercise and dietary calories to the third decimal point, they have no measureable impact for someone who has 80 lbs to lose and is eyeballing their portions.
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,565 Member
    mph323 wrote: »
    I've been mulling the ACV (and other weight loss woo) over lately, because of all the threads (sometimes 2 or 3 on the same page!) I don't think some of the proponents think you can eat all the foods and lose weight, I think the thought process may go something like this:

    Set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week (regardless of the number of lbs to lose) Eat that many calories
    ACV may give a weight loss a boost so drink it and lose a few more ounces a week
    Eating celery may burn more calories than it contains, so eat it and lose a few more ounces a week
    [Insert fad fat burner] may give a weight loss boost so take it daily and lose a few more ounces a week
    Use a few more magical woo products and lose a few more ounces a week
    Voila! Lose 3 lbs a week with the same deficit that would cause the loss of 2 lbs per week!

    At least this is my thinking when I was in my 20's. I understood calorie counting, and did it when I wanted to lose weight, but didn't really understand energy balance and really bought into the magical weight loss tips. Everything I knew about dieting I learned from women's magazines, and there was no internet to present alternate points of view backed up by science. I'm truly grateful I am so much better educated now.

    The real problem with this thinking is that adding up all those ounces means they don't have to effectively or accurately track calories.

    When in fact what it actually means is that those ounces only matter if everything else is already lined up perfectly.

    IF/Meal timing/carb cycling/keto/etc have a huge impact for weight class and BF% competitive athletes who are tracking exercise and dietary calories to the third decimal point, they have no measureable impact for someone who has 80 lbs to lose and is eyeballing their portions.

    Oh, I absolutely agree! Whether or not anything may work (in the realm of a few calories per day), it's absolutely meaningless in the context of daily weight fluctuations and CICO tracking inaccuracies. And the woo articles always present the "information" in the format of "may aid in weight loss", "animal studies have shown" and "encouraging results" when they bother to footnote. There's never even one definitive, legitimate study that shows actual repeatable results.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    also most acid reflux is not low acid. while low acid can cause acid reflux, it is consider abnormal
    livers, kidneys, and lymphatic systems do not need help detoxing your body (typically)
  • PokeyBug
    PokeyBug Posts: 482 Member
    I've used it to remove a couple of moles, but that's the only experience I've had with it. It works really well for that, though. Burned off the first mole in about four days, the second in only two!
  • mkculs
    mkculs Posts: 316 Member
    https://youtu.be/tfRuCT0T_W0

    Not sure if the link will work but this video gives you an idea of the benefits (or lack there of).

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    Well, who DOESN'T need a skinnier rat?
  • ladyreva78
    ladyreva78 Posts: 4,080 Member
    jrochest wrote: »
    PokeyBug wrote: »
    I've used it to remove a couple of moles, but that's the only experience I've had with it. It works really well for that, though. Burned off the first mole in about four days, the second in only two!

    It also does a bang-up job of removing cat urine stench from laundry, should you ever be so unfortunate as to need that. Ask me why I know. . . :#:#

    Good to know... :neutral:

    I'll keep that little bit of information on a bright pink sticky note on the washing machine...
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    jrochest wrote: »
    PokeyBug wrote: »
    I've used it to remove a couple of moles, but that's the only experience I've had with it. It works really well for that, though. Burned off the first mole in about four days, the second in only two!

    It also does a bang-up job of removing cat urine stench from laundry, should you ever be so unfortunate as to need that. Ask me why I know. . . :#:#

    Yanno how sometimes new clothes stink? ACV helps get that out AND is a natural fabric softener. I buy the gallon jugs of cheap ACV for the laundry room.

    (I use Bragg's for cooking.)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    PokeyBug wrote: »
    I've used it to remove a couple of moles, but that's the only experience I've had with it. It works really well for that, though. Burned off the first mole in about four days, the second in only two!

    Oh yes, I've used ACV to get rid of skin barnacles/Seborrheic Keratosis too.
  • WJS_jeepster
    WJS_jeepster Posts: 224 Member
    43Ninebark wrote: »
    I don't know if there are any benefits to it, but I drink about 1 tbsp mixed with a cup of warm water, bit of ground cayenne pepper, bit of fresh/ground ginger, and a bit of lemon juice/zest.

    That actually sounds good. I'll have to try it.

    Seriously? That sounds like fire in a cup.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    43Ninebark wrote: »
    I don't know if there are any benefits to it, but I drink about 1 tbsp mixed with a cup of warm water, bit of ground cayenne pepper, bit of fresh/ground ginger, and a bit of lemon juice/zest.

    Honestly, If you want these things in your diet, just add them.

    If you want to supplement with them, you'll need way more than "a bit". See Examine.com for studied benefits of cayenne, ginger, lemon, etc and meaningful/effective dose.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Someone left a banana on top of my refrigerator for a few months. When I found the mummified remains, the banana insides had been replaced with 100,000,000 fruit flies. I put out a tub of ACV and they were drawn right to it! Got rid of the flies within a few days. I didn't notice if they had lost more weight after drowning in the ACV. ;)

    Here's more on using ACV for a fruit fly trap: http://kk.org/cooltools/apple-cider-vin/
  • nickssweetheart
    nickssweetheart Posts: 874 Member
    edited June 2018
    I'm reminded of a murder mystery by Agatha Christie where the case hinged on the "banting" (dieting) of the murdered lady's companion. The companion was drinking a vinegar tonic every night and scanting on her dinners and the detective thought he'd figured out how the poison was administered only to discover that the companion ate a cornflour mixture meant for the lady who died, so that was out.

    So the poor companion skipped the dessert course, subjected herself to a vinegar concoction, and then ate cornmeal mush instead and ate back all the calories she had saved. But it turned out the sprinkles on top of the dessert were poisoned so skipping it and drinking vinegar instead saved her life!
  • jrochest
    jrochest Posts: 119 Member
    Lord Byron apparently lived on vinegar and potatoes in an effort to lose weight, at one point.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    43Ninebark wrote: »
    I don't know if there are any benefits to it, but I drink about 1 tbsp mixed with a cup of warm water, bit of ground cayenne pepper, bit of fresh/ground ginger, and a bit of lemon juice/zest.

    That actually sounds good. I'll have to try it.

    It's the "formula" for the "Master Cleanse" which was never actually proven to have any health benefits.