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Meat only diet
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This discussion was created from replies split from: No carb diet.
If you want to debate the pros or cons of a meat only diet this is the place.
I accidentally deleted a few comments related to eating raw organs for vitamin C. Sorry about that. To those who wanted to pursue that train of thought you will have to start that part over again.
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If you want to debate the pros or cons of a meat only diet this is the place.
I accidentally deleted a few comments related to eating raw organs for vitamin C. Sorry about that. To those who wanted to pursue that train of thought you will have to start that part over again.
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TavistockToad wrote: »roseprice0128 wrote: »Hi there. I’m trying to go on the no carb diet... does anyone have any recipes or tips and tricks they’d like to share???
Just meat and fat?
Just meat - sounds like heaven.
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »roseprice0128 wrote: »Hi there. I’m trying to go on the no carb diet... does anyone have any recipes or tips and tricks they’d like to share???
Just meat and fat?
Just meat - sounds like heaven.
until its day 5 and you haven't pooped...38 -
TavistockToad wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »roseprice0128 wrote: »Hi there. I’m trying to go on the no carb diet... does anyone have any recipes or tips and tricks they’d like to share???
Just meat and fat?
Just meat - sounds like heaven.
until its day 5 and you haven't pooped...
I’m sure all that fat would help things along. I bet lions poop!
I was was just kidding I would be able to eat just meat, not without some buttered veg!
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It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.10 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.7 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.
What is your goal with this? What is it you're trying to 'fix'?9 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.
What is your goal with this? What is it you're trying to 'fix'?
I seem to feel better (energy, general GI health, etc.) as I get closer and closer to beef only.11 -
What about scurvy?midwesterner85 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.
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johnslater461 wrote: »
Enjoy your scurvymidwesterner85 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.
If I were going to get scurvy, it would have happened already in the ~6 months since I last ate fruits or vegetables.
ETA: You might find this study interesting: http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2005/pdf/2005-v20n03-p179.pdf13 -
This is an interesting discussion on why someone who is only eating meat does not require the same vitamin C as someone eating less meat and more grains.
http://borntoeatmeat.com/?p=69915 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I seem to feel better (energy, general GI health, etc.) as I get closer and closer to beef only.
It never ceases to amaze me how many non-mainstream eating habits and health activities (enemas, etc) have participants who feel so much better.
Of course truth be told I feel much better than I did 6 months ago too. I actually don't eat that much beef so maybe the secret to better health is all beef or very little beef.10 -
.midwesterner85 wrote: »I seem to feel better (energy, general GI health, etc.) as I get closer and closer to beef only.
It never ceases to amaze me how many non-mainstream eating habits and health activities (enemas, etc) have participants who feel so much better.
Of course truth be told I feel much better than I did 6 months ago too. I actually don't eat that much beef so maybe the secret to better health is all beef or very little beef.
Stay away from beef! It causes death by lightening:
This conversation just reminded me so much of the above (thanks to @Anvil_Head for sharing this elsewhere). Makes me giggle21 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I seem to feel better (energy, general GI health, etc.) as I get closer and closer to beef only.
It never ceases to amaze me how many non-mainstream eating habits and health activities (enemas, etc) have participants who feel so much better.
Of course truth be told I feel much better than I did 6 months ago too. I actually don't eat that much beef so maybe the secret to better health is all beef or very little beef.
Placebo effect is a very powerful thing.22 -
A meat only diet would make me want to cry. No fruit, no vegetables, no yogurt, no chocolate, no oats ... did I mention no vegetables? There goes the majority of my food intake.
It would also be impossible to meet all of your nutritional needs without the help of some serious supplements I would imagine. Give me a balanced diet any day of the week.14 -
How you feel when eating only meat is how I feel when eating only plant-based. I am not a fan of these pop-up diet fads and think this one will come and go, or come and be modified and re-named sooner or later. Can't wait for the Dr. Oz piece on this. I'll keep my balance as well.6
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I'll put this back in here in case anyone wants to listen to an athlete (Dr Shawn Baker) discuss his all meat diet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_Bc9hdHa0 10 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »A meat only diet would make me want to cry. No fruit, no vegetables, no yogurt, no chocolate, no oats ... did I mention no vegetables? There goes the majority of my food intake.
It would also be impossible to meet all of your nutritional needs without the help of some serious supplements I would imagine. Give me a balanced diet any day of the week.
RDAs are set up for people on a higher carb, more typical, diet. It appears that those who eat all animal have different needs, but quality animal products do meet those needs as far as we can tell. The nutrients in meat are generally fairly high and more bioavailable than those from plants. There is no supplement need.20 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »A meat only diet would make me want to cry. No fruit, no vegetables, no yogurt, no chocolate, no oats ... did I mention no vegetables? There goes the majority of my food intake.
It would also be impossible to meet all of your nutritional needs without the help of some serious supplements I would imagine. Give me a balanced diet any day of the week.
RDAs are set up for people on a higher carb, more typical, diet. It appears that those who eat all animal have different needs, but quality animal products do meet those needs as far as we can tell. The nutrients in meat are generally fairly high and more bioavailable than those from plants. There is no supplement need.
Do you have specific sources you recommend for those who are interested in learning more about how your nutritional needs change if only consume meat?8 -
cushman5279 wrote: »How you feel when eating only meat is how I feel when eating only plant-based. I am not a fan of these pop-up diet fads and think this one will come and go, or come and be modified and re-named sooner or later. Can't wait for the Dr. Oz piece on this. I'll keep my balance as well.
It has already been renamed zero carb and has been renamed again as carnivore (more accurate). Sort of like how vegetarian, or mostly vegetarian, has been renamed plant based. I doubt (hope) that neither one will become mainstream, but there will always be those who feel best eating that way.10 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »It's not technically zero, but carnivores are pretty close. With the exception of minimal carbs to manage hypoglycemia (I'm a type 1 diabetic), I just eat meat. Though I'm still eating a bit of other meats, I'm working towards moving to just beef and wild game (as long as I kill it myself or participate in killing it). I just feel so much better when sticking with only beef.
As to recipes? It depends on what you get and how you want to cook it. I'm going to put a round roast in the crock pot with a small amount of water. For loose hamburger, I have a counter-top grill to cook it fairly quickly. I'll probably be cooking up some hamburger patties on the outside grill later this week and probably some sirloin tip steaks next week. I have a little bit of venison left from last season that will be split up between the dehydrator (jerky) and maybe a stove-top pan. I do have a few cans of tuna to finish off, and those will just get drained and eaten without cooking.
Pure curiosity. How long have you eaten this way? Seriously nothing else? I'm fascinated.
Most of last year, then took a 'break' and back to animals only again in Jan. I only gave up eggs and dairy within the past few weeks and I'm now working towards giving up those other meats besides beef. The exception is that I do drink coffee (black) and tea, but would like to give those up too. That won't happen as soon as getting to beef only. And I may add back other meats later or eggs or dairy. I do want to eventually get to beef only for at least 3-4 weeks and see how well it works before deciding what, if anything, to add back again.
This makes me think of The Beef and Dairy Network podcast. You'd love it, lol.0 -
Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.27
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happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
For factory farming, I completely agree.
If one converted all those corn and soy farms into pasture, with perennial grasses instead of agricultural monocrop farms, then beef would be more sustainable. Better yet, farm bison and other grazer's which are easier on the grass (nibble off the tops rather than rip the grass out) and let the pigs and chicken roam with them.19 -
happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
For factory farming, I completely agree.
If one converted all those corn and soy farms into pasture, with perennial grasses instead of agricultural monocrop farms, then beef would be more sustainable. Better yet, farm bison and other grazer's which are easier on the grass (nibble off the tops rather than rip the grass out) and let the pigs and chicken roam with them.
Still leaves a massive carbon footprint.9 -
happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
For factory farming, I completely agree.
If one converted all those corn and soy farms into pasture, with perennial grasses instead of agricultural monocrop farms, then beef would be more sustainable. Better yet, farm bison and other grazer's which are easier on the grass (nibble off the tops rather than rip the grass out) and let the pigs and chicken roam with them.
I think it's acceptable to discuss what *could* happen at some point in the future if humans decided to quit factory farming, but right now we're in the situation of what *is* happening. Someone who is choosing to eat all beef now is doing it within the current farming system and that means they're either paying a premium for grass-fed beef or supporting factory farming (or, I suppose, finding some third way to obtain beef like raising their own).8 -
happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
There was a study published a couple years back that put a level of environmental damage of various activities. Having 1 additional child dwarfed everything else. Eating meat was pretty low. Since I have already chosen to have 0 kids, use energy efficient HVAC, and drive a hybrid, I'm far more "green" than most of the rest of the world in total. Having a kid is extremely irresponsible. Eating beef is a little blip of nothing when compared to the rest.19 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
There was a study published a couple years back that put a level of environmental damage of various activities. Having 1 additional child dwarfed everything else. Eating meat was pretty low. Since I have already chosen to have 0 kids, use energy efficient HVAC, and drive a hybrid, I'm far more "green" than most of the rest of the world in total. Having a kid is extremely irresponsible. Eating beef is a little blip of nothing when compared to the rest.
I don't know if this is the study you're referencing, but I got curious, began Googling, and found this support for it: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-fight-climate-change-have-fewer-children
One fewer child is the equivalent of saving 58.6 tons of C02 emissions per year. Switching to a plant-based diet is just .82.
I don't think this particular study takes water into account, but I am sure someone has done that math somewhere.6 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
There was a study published a couple years back that put a level of environmental damage of various activities. Having 1 additional child dwarfed everything else. Eating meat was pretty low. Since I have already chosen to have 0 kids, use energy efficient HVAC, and drive a hybrid, I'm far more "green" than most of the rest of the world in total. Having a kid is extremely irresponsible. Eating beef is a little blip of nothing when compared to the rest.
Do I have to point out that both you and the author of this "study" are both someone's children?
Is there a point to gaining social status within a philosophy that despises your mere existence?21 -
janejellyroll wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »happytree923 wrote: »Considering how resource intensive beef production is, I think this is an extremely irresponsible way of eating.
There was a study published a couple years back that put a level of environmental damage of various activities. Having 1 additional child dwarfed everything else. Eating meat was pretty low. Since I have already chosen to have 0 kids, use energy efficient HVAC, and drive a hybrid, I'm far more "green" than most of the rest of the world in total. Having a kid is extremely irresponsible. Eating beef is a little blip of nothing when compared to the rest.
I don't know if this is the study you're referencing, but I got curious, began Googling, and found this support for it: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-fight-climate-change-have-fewer-children
One fewer child is the equivalent of saving 58.6 tons of C02 emissions per year. Switching to a plant-based diet is just .82.
I don't think this particular study takes water into account, but I am sure someone has done that math somewhere.
Yes, that is it - here is the graph from the study:
The left-most green bar is having 1 fewer child and the last (furthest right) green bar is switching to a plant-based diet.3 -
One fewer child than what?!?0
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