Is Keto Worth it?
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ArmyMedic23PFA wrote: »I dont understand why there is such negativity towards this WOE
It's the OTT claims about it that take the heat, not the diet itself.8 -
ArmyMedic23PFA wrote: »I dont understand why there is such negativity towards this WOE
There’s not negativity toward the WOE. There is frustration at the rampant wild claims of health benefits, many of which are not scientifically validated, as well as claims that this WOE is advantageous for weight loss - even to the point that some posters claim it supercedes CICO.
It can be a fine WOE if a person enjoys it and if they find it satiating. It can have health benefits or those that need to restrict carbs. That’s it. There’s nothing magical about it.8 -
ArmyMedic23PFA wrote: »I dont understand why there is such negativity towards this WOE
It is not keto that the negativity is aimed at, it is the idea that so many are spouting that it can cure all kinds of diseases and that you lose more weight on it. As a diet or a weight loss plan, it is no better or worse than any other. It will work for some and it will not work for others.
Also, can we stop with the WOE stuff?10 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Thanks for posting this!! I am new to keto and found this information helpful. I am also looking for keto friends.. Please add me if your following a keto diet.. 😀
Welcome to the Keto Way Of Eating.
4 years ago at the the age of 63 with serious health issues I cut out food with added sugar and or any forms of any grains on a hunch for pain management. It worked in the first 30 days and over the past 4 years the MD is no longer treating me for any issues. She said I will see you next year in the meantime keep doing what you have been doing for the past several years. Last year she was concerned about my high Vitamin D3 because I am taking 50,000 units daily. She said since all of my labs we OK she was okay with my 155+ ng levels since science has not determined what level is too high. I don't promote mega dosing of Any thing. Having an earned OD degree most MD's simle at my n=1 experiments since they know they have no accountable due to my healtcare training.
My body runs better on ketones than glucose for some reason.
Best of continued success.
50,000 IU a day? thats supposed to be weekly, I know my daughter is on it. I was on that much for awhile and then my dr tested my levels and told me that I can do 5,000 IU 2-3 times a week.I do that and my levels are normal and stay stable. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-side-effects#section35 -
ArmyMedic23PFA wrote: »I dont understand why there is such negativity towards this WOE
It is not keto that the negativity is aimed at, it is the idea that so many are spouting that it can cure all kinds of diseases and that you lose more weight on it. As a diet or a weight loss plan, it is no better or worse than any other. It will work for some and it will not work for others.
Also, can we stop with the WOE stuff?
Seriously - every time some says "WOE" or "way of eating" especially when talking about keto, I have an urge to eat an Oreo.
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Can someone please tell me it is??0
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mojorowe88 wrote: »Can someone please tell me it is??
It can be depending on if it works for you to help you stay in a calorie deficit or have a medical condition that keto can help improve.
I lost my first 120 pounds using keto and it worked great for keeping my appetite under control but I knew it wouldn't be a life-long way for me to eat. I transitioned to a diet of moderation in everything and have mostly kept the weight off (minus a few bumps along the way).
I would do your research and see if it sounds like something you think will help you lose weight. If you find it isn't something you can sustain, then you can always try something else.7 -
Are our bodies "made to run on carbs". I think protein. Maybe a long time ago we ate berries, and hunted for meat, probably quite fatty, which constituted a large part of the diet back then. Im assuming though. Im on low carb. Protein in the form of eggs and meat is high on my list every day.
Statements like this don't lend credibility to your other posts. Are you sure the body is super complex and science doesn't have all the answers or is it rather you don't understand even the most basic science of how our bodies work? This post looks like the latter.
I cant believe how words are manipulated on this site. Of course the body uses carbs first. Explosive energy, some endurance. But there have been past times, and there are still places where carbs are not as available as meat. The body needs protein. It makes up almost 20% of your body weight. The body can use protein for energy, but it cannot convert carbs to protein. Protein rules. But we need fat too of course. Red meat is a good supply. Yes the body is super complex.8 -
May be I was too generic the other day using "fats" as the term for brain fuel, "fatty acids" in those fats create keytones. what the heck! After all the brain is 60% fats. It had been a very long, very hard day.3
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May be I was too generic the other day using "fats" as the term for brain fuel, "fatty acids" in those fats create keytones. what the heck! After all the brain is 60% fats. It had been a very long, very hard day.
Still, ketones are not the preferred source of fuel for the brain. They're the last resort to prevent starvation, and even then, they're just used to "top up" whatever glucose the brain could get through synthesis. Fatty acids can't cross to the brain.
Skeletal muscle preferentially likes fatty acids at rest unless burst movement is required. Maybe that's what you meant?
In either case, ketones are not the preferred source of fuel although the body adapts and utilizes whatever is available.3 -
When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
Since Oct 2014 at the age of 63 when I switched from burning mainly glucose to mainly burning ketones my health has greatly improved.
Body pain management in the first 30 days was my first clue that the Keto WOE was preferred by my body. After six months on a Keto WOE my 30+ years of IBS left and has not been back. Blood pressure and glucose levels became normal are just a few reasons I plan to stay on a Keto WOE the rest of my life.17 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
Since Oct 2014 at the age of 63 when I switched from burning mainly glucose to mainly burning ketones my health has greatly improved.
Body pain management in the first 30 days was my first clue that the Keto WOE was preferred by my body. After six months on a Keto WOE my 30+ years of IBS left and has not been back. Blood pressure and glucose levels became normal are just a few reasons I plan to stay on a Keto WOE the rest of my life.
Dear Suweet Baybee Jeebus. Stop. Please stop. Now I'm convinced you're just trolling to create drama. Go take a 1/4 mile walk. It'll be more productive than this.18 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
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Not a single word of this is true.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
Since Oct 2014 at the age of 63 when I switched from burning mainly glucose to mainly burning ketones my health has greatly improved.
Body pain management in the first 30 days was my first clue that the Keto WOE was preferred by my body. After six months on a Keto WOE my 30+ years of IBS left and has not been back. Blood pressure and glucose levels became normal are just a few reasons I plan to stay on a Keto WOE the rest of my life.
This is wrong and flat out irresponsible to post these wild claims that suggest that a ketogenic diet will ward off cancer, diabetes and heart disease.16 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
Since Oct 2014 at the age of 63 when I switched from burning mainly glucose to mainly burning ketones my health has greatly improved.
Body pain management in the first 30 days was my first clue that the Keto WOE was preferred by my body. After six months on a Keto WOE my 30+ years of IBS left and has not been back. Blood pressure and glucose levels became normal are just a few reasons I plan to stay on a Keto WOE the rest of my life.
So you're saying that if you never develop cancer, heart disease or diabetes it's because you eat keto? I could say the same because I drink coffee every day. Studies have shown that there are components of coffee that are good for your health, and may impact the chances of getting certain diseases. I think those "studies" are bs, but they are out there. I could further say this is only true for me because I have a unique physiology, and not for all the other people out there who drink coffee and yet become ill. But hey, try it! If you stay disease free you can thank me for sharing my knowledge. If you get sick, well, your body must be different than mine.
It only impacts you if you want to play out a narrative in your head that says ritualistic eating patterns ward off common and terrifying diseases, but repeating that narrative to vulnerable people as if it were truth is scaremongering. and irresponsible.9 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »When thinking about is keto worth it the answer is yes because glucose is required to to cause most types of cancer to spread in my body. True Type 2 diabetes requires high levels of glucose to even develop. Heart diseases are are not associated with ketones but are associated with glucose.
Since Oct 2014 at the age of 63 when I switched from burning mainly glucose to mainly burning ketones my health has greatly improved.
Body pain management in the first 30 days was my first clue that the Keto WOE was preferred by my body. After six months on a Keto WOE my 30+ years of IBS left and has not been back. Blood pressure and glucose levels became normal are just a few reasons I plan to stay on a Keto WOE the rest of my life.
Saying there is an association between glucose and heart disease is like saying there is an association between breaking a bone and drinking water. 100% of people on this planet have glucose in their bodies so of course this will also apply to everyone with cancer or heart disease.10 -
Published 23 June 2018 in journal of cardiovascular dieabetology. "Recently, two large randomized controlled trials which only included patients with underlying cardiovascular disease (CVD) or patients at high risk for CVD showed that two sodium glucose co-transporter 2 inhibitors (SGLT-2is) significantly reduced hospitalization for heart failure (hHF)".
Hey, maybe the amount of carbs (glucose) you consume can affect your risk of Heart failure if you have "underlying" cardiovascular disease, and you may have, but dont know it! Science still dosnt have all the answers so why trash Gale for her opinion. Her experience is that Keto has changed her life. My experience is that I now have more energy on low carb than I ever did on high carb, and a few other benefits as well. Dont knock it until youve tried it. It may not suit everyone but in our world where more and more people are overweight or obese, keto or low carb gets results, and fast. Plus its very easy to maintain.17 -
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