What I Hate About Watching My Weight/New Lifestyle/Dieting, etc. (A Place to Vent)
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Going through this process makes you realize just how massive the misinformation/disinformation campaign on weight management is. Nearly everything we've been taught or told is wrong.
You don't even have to delve deep to understand that the majority of diet plans are not designed for participant success, but for planned obsolescence.
" You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus35 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »What I just really can't understand, is people wanting to be/get healthy or lose weight, but at the same moment do not eat ANY fruits/vegetables whatsoever. I mean; wtf. How do you think you will lose weight if you are just not eating the healthy stuff? Bonus points for people not eating fruits/veggies, but do drink loads of Coke/eat loads of junk food.
Because weight loss and eating nutritious foods are two different things. Related sometimes, but are not necessarily dependant on each other. You can lose weight by not eating a nutritious diet by eating fewer calories, and you can eat nutritious foods without losing weight by not eating at a calorie deficit. It's possible that these people aren't really prioritizing their nutrition, or that what they eat around you is not what they eat when they're home.
For example, when I go out, I don't make special nutrition considerations and just eat whatever I feel like eating, just like everybody else. It makes it look as if that's all I eat, but in reality, I'm one of the few people who have gained weight eating TONS of fruits and vegetables and rarely drinking soda.
this. I pounce on all the triggery tasty things when I'm out, but they don't come into my house. (ie: yes- I'll be the first one crying out "ICE CREAM!!!" on a ride, but I also pretty much only eat it when I'm doing at least a 15 mile ride or 4 mile run).8 -
Cooking. I hate cooking. I hate planning to cook, prepping to cook, cleaning up the cooking....it's the most miserable chore I do. I've cut down eating out to 3-5 times a week and gotten meal prep down to a couple of hours most weeks, but still dread kitchen time every Sunday. I just miss having food that I actually look forward to eating. But I'm much closer to looking how I'd like to look, so I guess I'll take it!
ditto. I eat a lot of soup/potatoes/etc made in ~5kg batches (and yep- that's about the max of what'll fit into an electric pressure cooker).2 -
All that fast food advertising on MFP... And those fast food outlets who make sure that shopping centres stink of burned oil, burned chicken, burned chips first thing in the morning...9
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collectingblues wrote: »anothermfpuser wrote: »Explaining to people once the weight is gone that you are still 'watching' calorie intake. It's the benefit (or curse) of the learning process from logging.
eta.. And explaining... yes I still workout and do it because I enjoy it.
yep this. Having to explain the proper order of cause and effect when it comes to weight. As in: "No, I don't not have to watch my calories because I'm thin (as if I was blessed with some miracle unicorn metabolism that lets me eat all the things). I'm (relatively) thin because I DO watch my calories." Up there with explaining to my fellow cyclists post-ride that "No- my 4'10" 112 lb self most definitely did NOT burn enough calories on that 30 mile hill ride to eat a plate of burger and fries/order of chicken wings and a beer in the pub afterward)."
I hate that one. I was at an event that was a wine flight + heavy appetizer, and one of the women at our table made a comment about how she was surprised how full she felt, since it was "only" wine and cheese and crackers/bread. I pointed out to her that we'd easily consumed 600 calories between all of the components, and her jaw dropped as she said that "YOU count calories?"
Well, yes. That's part of how/why I look like I do.
yep.
I actually have a cheat sheet card for crackers/cheese/pepperoni/mini salami since they are out at many larger dance events (and minimal time to log on the spot; also was a while before I finally found a cheddar/colby listing in cubic inches - so I had to do the math).4 -
cheryldumais wrote: »I resent the ones out there who have 1900 calories (or more) a day for maintenance even though they are similar or lower weight, height and age as me.
I hate people assuming I can eat out anywhere now just because I am at maintenance. 1300 calories a day just doesn't go well with restaurant food.
Last is like many already stated, the ones who are trying to tell me I need to use their eating plan when they are still struggling with too much weight yet I've reached maintenance.
Rant over...........
on the bright side: saving a ton of money on eating out WAY less often than I used to (a 1900 long cardio day won't go very far with restaurant food either)... which brings me to another pet peeve of mine: the "it's so expensive to eat healthy" whiny people. No, No it's not... we got fat eating EXTRA food we no longer have to buy. ..And a lot of that extra food for quite a few of us wasn't exactly cheap (ie restaurants, tasty luxury items, etc).24 -
When people ask my advise on what I do and I tell them (keto) and they act like I ran their dog over. I have to listen to a million reasons why it won't work for them and how this isn't sustainable. Hey you asked, I told.17
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Cooking. I hate cooking. I hate planning to cook, prepping to cook, cleaning up the cooking....it's the most miserable chore I do. I've cut down eating out to 3-5 times a week and gotten meal prep down to a couple of hours most weeks, but still dread kitchen time every Sunday. I just miss having food that I actually look forward to eating. But I'm much closer to looking how I'd like to look, so I guess I'll take it!
ditto. I eat a lot of soup/potatoes/etc made in ~5kg batches (and yep- that's about the max of what'll fit into an electric pressure cooker).
Yep--only I'm a Crock Pot kind of girl! It's generally either some kind of soup or a combo of baked meat, frozen veg and rice in a bowl...repeated ad infinitum.2 -
I've enjoyed reading so many comments, there are plenty I could list but most of the time I just get on with doing what it takes to stay slim. Been maintaining my weight for 5 years, it does get easier so take heart.19
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I fall outside of your “quite a few of us.” I was not eating in restaurants very much before (maybe 1-2 times/month, and then usually fast food or grocery-store deli), and my tasty treats were the cheapest I could find on sale.cheryldumais wrote: »I resent the ones out there who have 1900 calories (or more) a day for maintenance even though they are similar or lower weight, height and age as me.
I hate people assuming I can eat out anywhere now just because I am at maintenance. 1300 calories a day just doesn't go well with restaurant food.
Last is like many already stated, the ones who are trying to tell me I need to use their eating plan when they are still struggling with too much weight yet I've reached maintenance.
Rant over...........
on the bright side: saving a ton of money on eating out WAY less often than I used to (a 1900 long cardio day won't go very far with restaurant food either)... which brings me to another pet peeve of mine: the "it's so expensive to eat healthy" whiny people. No, No it's not... we got fat eating EXTRA food we no longer have to buy. ..And a lot of that extra food for quite a few of us wasn't exactly cheap (ie restaurants, tasty luxury items, etc).
Fresh, nutrient-dense foods tend to cost more than starchy foods stabilized with sugars and fats. Minimally prepared foods such as fresh produce can be fairly inexpensive, but sacrificing the convenience of pre-washed greens and cut-up chickens carries its own costs.
I’m not saying that I can’t afford to eat healthy (I can),; just that, for me, it is in no way cheaper.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
I fall outside of your “quite a few of us.” I was not eating in restaurants very much before (maybe 1-2 times/month, and then usually fast food or grocery-store deli), and my tasty treats were the cheapest I could find on sale.cheryldumais wrote: »I resent the ones out there who have 1900 calories (or more) a day for maintenance even though they are similar or lower weight, height and age as me.
I hate people assuming I can eat out anywhere now just because I am at maintenance. 1300 calories a day just doesn't go well with restaurant food.
Last is like many already stated, the ones who are trying to tell me I need to use their eating plan when they are still struggling with too much weight yet I've reached maintenance.
Rant over...........
on the bright side: saving a ton of money on eating out WAY less often than I used to (a 1900 long cardio day won't go very far with restaurant food either)... which brings me to another pet peeve of mine: the "it's so expensive to eat healthy" whiny people. No, No it's not... we got fat eating EXTRA food we no longer have to buy. ..And a lot of that extra food for quite a few of us wasn't exactly cheap (ie restaurants, tasty luxury items, etc).
Fresh, nutrient-dense foods tend to cost more than starchy foods stabilized with sugars and fats. Minimally prepared foods such as fresh produce can be fairly inexpensive, but sacrificing the convenience of pre-washed greens and cut-up chickens carries its own costs.
I’m not saying that I can’t afford to eat healthy (I can),; just that, for me, it is in no way cheaper.
I disagree. I too spend less on food. I never went to fancy restaurants, (seldom even fast food, family restaurants, or deli items) or purchased “luxury” type foods. Shopping sales, buying bulk foods, and cooking and preparing food from scratch is less expensive than convenience items. Been there, done that (convenience foods). More servings per package for bulk vs convenience and preparing your own food. Maybe costs more initially, but many more meals.Time is definitely a factor, but you make time. Isn’t the health of you and your family worth the extra time involved? I realize some people are extremely busy, but most of us can find a few hours a week for meal preparation. It’s all about priorities. Your choice.
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"WILL YOU PLEASE STOP OFFERING ME YOUR FOOD YOU DON'T WANT TO EAT!"
Is what I would like to shout at some people.
Seriously though, I had to turn down cakes like 5 times yesterday, from the same person! Although one was by someone else on her behalf. Someone, who I would point out, had just refused the cake herself.
I suppose I'm more sensitive to this because I did used to be the human hoover, eating up anything my friends didn't want. But still!19 -
"WILL YOU PLEASE STOP OFFERING ME YOUR FOOD YOU DON'T WANT TO EAT!"
Is what I would like to shout at some people.
Seriously though, I had to turn down cakes like 5 times yesterday, from the same person! Although one was by someone else on her behalf. Someone, who I would point out, had just refused the cake herself.
I suppose I'm more sensitive to this because I did used to be the human hoover, eating up anything my friends didn't want. But still!
Don't you just hate when you are kept being offered stuff over and over - a no should be taken as a no. Its very annoying. When someone does that to me now I say a very firm no thanks, I'm full. It usually works so I think its all in how we say no
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Going through this process makes you realize just how massive the misinformation/disinformation campaign on weight management is. Nearly everything we've been taught or told is wrong.
You don't even have to delve deep to understand that the majority of diet plans are not designed for participant success, but for planned obsolescence.
" You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus
I guess we decided to take the red pill. Though, this rabbit hole is far deeper than I imagined. Still trying to find the bottom.4 -
I hate that, while I love eating healthier, I'm tired of the mental energy this takes sometimes. But I don't want to go back to the way I was eating before because I hate the way I feel about, both physically and emotionally. I feel like I'm caught in a void where I still want to enjoy food, which I do, but I just don't have the energy.
I also hate that I have lost 38.7 pounds and I still can't find workout clothes that for. I buy men's shirts which is fine. But what about bottoms? I have to either but cheap quality stuff from Walmart because they have my size, it spend a bunch of money and buy things online and hope they fit. Some of the online places that say they cater to plus size inly go up to 3X. I think, ok that should for me, but I look at the measurements for their 3X and I need what they would call a 4X or a 5X. Feels like poop. And bras! Do you know how hard of a time I have been having finding a high support bra for a 38DD-40D that costs less than $60? I know that doesn't seem like a lot but I'm not currently working at the moment. It's hard to justify to my husband that I need to spend $200 on bras because one won't cut it out I would be doing laundry 5 days a week. Running and jumping rope and jumping jacks all hurry in a medium support bra but that's where I'm at.
And I hate that I've lost that much weight but I still have so far to go. Not because I have so far to go but because I'm still so big that people don't want to talk about my weight. They either don't say anything which feels bad because it's like they don't see it. Or they say things like "you look great!!" and that's it. Feels good on the surface but what they're not saying is "have you lost weight?" because they don't want to point out my weight.
And I hate that my brain and my body aren't in the same spot. Every. Either I feel like I'm still as heavy as I was, or I feel like I'm farther along. Both feel equally awful. The first just generally feels awful and depressing. The second feels good for a hot minute but then I think I could go shopping for a new shirt or s cute dress and I have a sad realization that nothing for and I feel *kitten* about my progress despite the fact that I'm right where I should be too continue doing this healthily. Or sometimes I'm just mad that I feel like my body should be able to do more at this point. I should be able to run for longer periods of time. I should be able to kick harder. I should be able to hike faster. I'm doing the things I should be doing to improve endurance but don't feel like I'm making progress.
Mostly I feel good about things despite this rant. But it just feels exhausting to have to carry those emotions while still trying to get rid of it negative emotions. Why can't we all just have normal, healthy relationships with food and exercise and self worth!?!?32 -
LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »"WILL YOU PLEASE STOP OFFERING ME YOUR FOOD YOU DON'T WANT TO EAT!"
Is what I would like to shout at some people.
Seriously though, I had to turn down cakes like 5 times yesterday, from the same person! Although one was by someone else on her behalf. Someone, who I would point out, had just refused the cake herself.
I suppose I'm more sensitive to this because I did used to be the human hoover, eating up anything my friends didn't want. But still!
Don't you just hate when you are kept being offered stuff over and over - a no should be taken as a no. Its very annoying. When someone does that to me now I say a very firm no thanks, I'm full. It usually works so I think its all in how we say no
My sports team has rookies bring in cupcakes for their first practice. I got asked did I want to smell them last time.
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I hate depending on a carefully crafted routine and lifestyle apart from most of society to stay healthy because the flow of cultural behavior is towards poor health. If anything disrupts it, I pay the price. And there are a lot of disruptions in life. Even the good disruptions are trouble. 😭18
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I hate depending on a carefully crafted routine and lifestyle apart from most of society to stay healthy because the flow of cultural behavior is towards poor health. If anything disrupts it, I pay the price. And there are a lot of disruptions in life. Even the good disruptions are trouble. 😭
This is me as well. My diet change was made due to a medical condition. I cannot eat what other people are eating 90% of the time. So eating out, or going to any social event is basically out of the question. If I plan a long road trip, I have to pack food because I can't depend on being able to find something to eat along the way. Staying over night at my parents means that I have to bring food with me for the duration of my stay... I HATE that I am constantly thinking and planning out my meals. And I HATE that it separates me from my friends, family, and coworkers.
But I'm not mad about the 45 lbs I've lost in the last 6months
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WillingtoLose1001984 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »What is "naturally fat"?
An imaginary condition that occurs with lack of personal accountability. In very rare cases could be caused by a medical issue, but not likely.
That is really judgmental and I really disagree. So do children lack personal accountability? I have a sister and she is underweight/bordering underweight and her children are as well. I have always been heavy. I was 20-30 lbs overweight from the time I was 8 or so years old. My son is the same way. We were raised in the same household with the same parents. So much of weight is genetic. I did gain a lot, over 100 lbs in 5 months, on medications though. For some reason it just made my appetite become enormous and it was a known drug for weight gain. I've always had a hard time losing weight as well because I feel hungry constantly and I hate feeling hungry. I have lost over 100 lbs with a lot of added activity. While I have a harder time reigning in my appetite, exercise comes more easily for me and I enjoy pretty much anything.
Okay, not to the "naturally fat" discussion, but - YES. Children DO lack personal accountability. Not that they don't have ANY, but that they don't have the same level of understanding we expect from adults. And that's normal and reasonable.10
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