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If you drink Diet Coke obsessively....You might be a runner. What's that all about?
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singingflutelady wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Despite its vital importance, water is often the most undervalued dietary component. Water makes up a large portion of your body composition. Each day, you lose up to 3 quarts of water, making daily replenishment crucial. Water is involved in more bodily processes than any other nutrient. It is recommended that you drink between 8 to 10 glasses of water daily. It can be confusing when you're trying to figure out what counts toward your water consumption each day.
Diet Soda and Daily Water Requirement
You may be surprised to know that because beverages such as diet soda are composed primarily of water, they do count towards your daily water requirement. However, you must take into consideration diet soda additives such as sodium and caffeine that may actually remove water from your body. Because of this, it's crucial that you avoid relying solely on diet soda to meet your daily recommended water intake
https://www.livestrong.com/article/413306-does-diet-soda-count-as-water-intake/
This is an example of why livestrong isn’t always a great source of info.
The claim that sodium (which is no more abundant in soda than in tap water) or caffeine in soda causes one to lose more of the water contained in the drink than if they’d simply drank water is false as demonstrated in the study I linked above.
In fact, you posted this in response to an illustration of the study results.
A theory posited by a blogger on livestrong doesn’t negate the results of a scientific study.
I still don't get why people keep on claiming diet soda has a lot of sodium.
Right? I mean, it’s as simple as reading the nutrition label to find out it’s completely false.7 -
This has nothing to do with the post, but I like this chart. I sometimes find when I am extremely thirsty, I crave ice cold milk and I feel more hydrated than if I drank water or Gatorade.1
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Charlene____ wrote: »This has nothing to do with the post, but I like this chart. I sometimes find when I am extremely thirsty, I crave ice cold milk and I feel more hydrated than if I drank water or Gatorade.
Same. Milk is my dear friend.0 -
Just some numbers
Sodium content of tap water: 13 mg/12oz (source: just googling sodium tap water)
Sodium content of diet coke: 40 mg/12 oz (source: https://www.coca-colaproductfacts.com/en/products/diet-coke/original/12-oz/)
Sodium content of human blood: 1136 mg/12 oz. (source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/symptoms-causes/syc-20373711) Math: Source gives 140 mEQ/L. Converting that to concentration in mg... Sodiums ionic valence is 1. Sodiums atomic mass is 23 grams per mole. So 140 mEQ/L is the same as 3220 mg/L. There are 34oz in a liter so blood is about 95 mg in 12 oz. There is about 6 liters of blood in your circulation for the typical person so we are talking 19,320 mg in circulation at any given moment just to put that into perspective of the 40mg in a 12 oz bottle of diet coke.
Sodium content of sea water for comparison: 3725 mg/ 12oz (source: https://www.lenntech.com/composition-seawater.htm) Math. Sodium is listed as 10,556 mg/L. 34 oz in a liter so (10,566/34)*12 = 3725mg / 12 oz.
So sure, diet coke has 3x the sodium concentration of tap water. Kind of like how sea water has 3x the sodium concentration of your blood. But if we are comparing amounts, soda has almost 30x less sodium per ounce than your blood has and you have 6 liters of blood. I don't think drinking soda is going to affect your sodium levels all that much.10 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Plain water hydrates better than a sports drink? I don't think so.0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Plain water hydrates better than a sports drink? I don't think so.
I'm somewhat curious as to what they're considering as a sports drink. It might be in the methods section of the article cited but I'm nowhere near curious enough to actually find the article right now.0 -
Methods section of the maughan Study, in case anyone is interested:
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I don't like diet coke. I like diet dr pepper.
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It's actually interesting. I don't drink nearly as much water as I used to. I drink 3-4 cups of coffee, a can of diet dr pepper and just one of my fake-tervis cups of plain water during my work day, and I think I'm very well hydrated. I pee a lot and it's always really light yellow.3
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Just some numbers
Sodium content of tap water: 13 mg/12oz (source: just googling sodium tap water)
Sodium content of diet coke: 40 mg/12 oz (source: https://www.coca-colaproductfacts.com/en/products/diet-coke/original/12-oz/)
Sodium content of human blood: 1136 mg/12 oz. (source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/symptoms-causes/syc-20373711) Math: Source gives 140 mEQ/L. Converting that to concentration in mg... Sodiums ionic valence is 1. Sodiums atomic mass is 23 grams per mole. So 140 mEQ/L is the same as 3220 mg/L. There are 34oz in a liter so blood is about 95 mg in 12 oz. There is about 6 liters of blood in your circulation for the typical person so we are talking 19,320 mg in circulation at any given moment just to put that into perspective of the 40mg in a 12 oz bottle of diet coke.
Sodium content of sea water for comparison: 3725 mg/ 12oz (source: https://www.lenntech.com/composition-seawater.htm) Math. Sodium is listed as 10,556 mg/L. 34 oz in a liter so (10,566/34)*12 = 3725mg / 12 oz.
So sure, diet coke has 3x the sodium concentration of tap water. Kind of like how sea water has 3x the sodium concentration of your blood. But if we are comparing amounts, soda has almost 30x less sodium per ounce than your blood has and you have 6 liters of blood. I don't think drinking soda is going to affect your sodium levels all that much.
Caught a typo in case anyone cares. I said blood has 95mg of sodium in 12 oz but I meant in 1 oz. It is 1136mg in 12 oz.2 -
i still question the sports drink findings
as far as diet coke, i have not found this to be prevelant in my experience. i see regular soda, but mostly, we are coffee and beer in my area. the breweries host runs, run clubs go to local coffee spots after a run. and tacos. lots of tacos2 -
NorthCascades wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Plain water hydrates better than a sports drink? I don't think so.
it appears as though they basically assessed how much you pee'd after drinking each of these types of hydration indexes - the lower the cumulative urine mass, the better for you - the higher the more you pee'd out3 -
The people I know who drink tons of diet coke NEVER run (or do any other exercise).7
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NorthCascades wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Plain water hydrates better than a sports drink? I don't think so.
Sports drinks are going to be better for replenishing electrolytes than plain water which is important when engaging in sweaty activities.
However, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll retain more of the fluid from a sports drink than from still water.
Say you drink a liter of water and pee out .67 liters, you retained .33 liters of fluid.
Then if you drink a liter of Powerade and pee out .68 liters, you retained .32 liters of fluid.
The Powerade probably did a better job replenishing electrolytes (if that was needed) but you were left more hydrated from the water.
*these numbers are made up and in no way are intended to reflect reality.5 -
NorthCascades wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Diet Coke is 99% water and actually hydrates you better than water.
Plain water hydrates better than a sports drink? I don't think so.
I'm somewhat curious as to what they're considering as a sports drink. It might be in the methods section of the article cited but I'm nowhere near curious enough to actually find the article right now.
Powerade0 -
Has anyone else ever noticed that runner's drink Diet Coke like it's water? I'm not a nutritionist, nor do I claim any expertise in this matter, but practically substituting your water consumption during the day with Diet Coke has to take a toll eventually...am I right? :-) (Not attacking runners here...just having some fun, but come on already with the Diet Coke!)
i'm a runner, i drink 1 can of diet coke per day...
bet that's blown your mind @upformore3 -
deannalfisher wrote: »I drink coke on Marathon and ironman courses - instant energy
I've been known to have a beer or 3 during marathons. The Twins Cities marathon finishes up Summit Ave which houses a few frats (University of St. Thomas...I think). They usually have a few kegs out and there's been a couple times when that was the coldest thing to drink on the course.....good times.2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »I drink coke on Marathon and ironman courses - instant energy
I've been known to have a beer or 3 during marathons. The Twins Cities marathon finishes up Summit Ave which houses a few frats (University of St. Thomas...I think). They usually have a few kegs out and there's been a couple times when that was the coldest thing to drink on the course.....good times.
had beer at the shamrock half marathon a few years back - same feeling - but getting it licensed on an ironman course probably won't happen...lol0 -
This has to be one of the oddest things to draw conclusions about - usually it is all about random observations of what a person has in their shopping cart at the store, what they eat at a restaurant, shaming those who are overweight and order supersize meals at McDonalds but order a Diet Coke alongside, assuming anyone who says there is nothing wrong with eating sugar in moderation must be eating nothing but pixie sticks and donuts 24-7, etc.
A glimpse into a person's choice of beverage, or food, at one specific moment of time really tells very little about their overall diet, approach to nutrition, health, fitness, etc. It's all about context and dosage.
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Love milk, but couldn't help myself.Carlos_421 wrote: »Charlene____ wrote: »This has nothing to do with the post, but I like this chart. I sometimes find when I am extremely thirsty, I crave ice cold milk and I feel more hydrated than if I drank water or Gatorade.
Same. Milk is my dear friend.
Pre, during, post run I crave water. Evidently I run with a different crowd as we usually go for post run beers. Not diet, not light.....beer.
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