What Was Your Work Out Today?
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As a completely irrelevant aside, I joined MFP on 7/25/2015, so it's my 7-year MFP-iversary, I guess. So far, I've logged in every day, which shocks me.
I don't think it's irrelevent. Happy Anniversary! I've logged in everyday since I started 5/14/21 but your really dedicated Ann!!!!1 -
Short on time yesterday, so did about 40 min. on the elliptical (2.6 mi; mostly zone 3, with some intervals into zone 4).
Today I did a full hour (3.5 mi), taking it a bit easy (45 min in zone 2, and about 12 min. in zone 3). I followed this with full-body slow-speed strength training.
My sleep is still messed up, so I'm happy to have gotten through this while still feeling good at the end.
Congrats to @AnnPT77 on your MFP-iversary!3 -
The terminology is a little squishy around the edges in usage, and maybe a little regional. In the "two oars per person" version, the oars are called "sculls" for sure (in addition to being called "oars", which some would apply more strictly to the "one oar per person" type).
When I row my raft, and if I had a driftboat, I would be the only person rowing, and I would for sure have two OARS. I think the term sculls is associated distinctly with shells, not other kinds of boats that use single bladed propulsion devices with an oarlock as a fulcrum.
Sure, seems like a reasonable distinction. In context, Mike's clearly talking about the terminology for the kind of rowing I do, though. 🤷♀️ I wouldn't undertake to speak for other types unfamiliar to me.
Ah. Context! So, perhaps, a scull is a sub-category of oar in the context of rowing those boats that go so fast I really want to get on one.
I presume the shafts on sculls (and oars in the context of rowing shells) are counter-balanced at the handle end. There's so much more length outboard than inboard. Or perhaps the blades and shafts are super light. The sticks I'm used to using are pretty beefy. Some people even use counterweights on those oars. For a couple reasons, I do not. If a counter-balanced oar escapes and either isn't tethered or breaks its tether, the blade might float for a while, but they tend to go away. Also, if an oar comes flying at you, it has more mass and can do more damage. Some people actually want the tethers to break fairly easily. An oar on a tether can catch on rocks and hold a capsized raft so that it can't be recovered easily. Mostly if you pop an oar on a rock, the tether just keeps it near the boat so you can grab it and jam it back in.0 -
Pull day in the weight room...
Pulldowns, machine high rows, machine low rows, T-Bar rows, DB shrugs, preacher curls3 -
The terminology is a little squishy around the edges in usage, and maybe a little regional. In the "two oars per person" version, the oars are called "sculls" for sure (in addition to being called "oars", which some would apply more strictly to the "one oar per person" type).
When I row my raft, and if I had a driftboat, I would be the only person rowing, and I would for sure have two OARS. I think the term sculls is associated distinctly with shells, not other kinds of boats that use single bladed propulsion devices with an oarlock as a fulcrum.
Sure, seems like a reasonable distinction. In context, Mike's clearly talking about the terminology for the kind of rowing I do, though. 🤷♀️ I wouldn't undertake to speak for other types unfamiliar to me.
Ah. Context! So, perhaps, a scull is a sub-category of oar in the context of rowing those boats that go so fast I really want to get on one.
I presume the shafts on sculls (and oars in the context of rowing shells) are counter-balanced at the handle end. There's so much more length outboard than inboard. Or perhaps the blades and shafts are super light. The sticks I'm used to using are pretty beefy. Some people even use counterweights on those oars. For a couple reasons, I do not. If a counter-balanced oar escapes and either isn't tethered or breaks its tether, the blade might float for a while, but they tend to go away. Also, if an oar comes flying at you, it has more mass and can do more damage. Some people actually want the tethers to break fairly easily. An oar on a tether can catch on rocks and hold a capsized raft so that it can't be recovered easily. Mostly if you pop an oar on a rock, the tether just keeps it near the boat so you can grab it and jam it back in.
I don't know enough about oar design to say smart things, honestly. The modern oars (in my sport) are very light for their size, much of them made of carbon fiber. If you want to geek out on technical details, the Concept 2 site is bonzer:
https://www.concept2.com/oars
They're one of the top oar manufacturers, not just a rowing machine manufacturer. (I'm not affiliated with them, except as a consumer.)
The newer sculls can weight around 3 pounds each. Length varies a bit, maybe 9 feet. Sweeps (the one oar per person variant) are longer by a couple feet, so a little heavier. They sculls are designed so that when the oar is in the oarlock, properly positioned, properly rigged boat, the blade sits with its top edge just at the water's surface, and the left handle is very slightly higher than the right (US). (Sweeps sit similarly automatically through engineering, but of course no "left over right" thing going on.)
On rowing shells (of this type), the oarlock is pretty solidly locked. There's a gate at the top of the oarlock that fits into place, then there's a knurled, threaded knob that screws down to encircle a collar-ish piece and hold the oar in place. They can come out during flips or whatever, but it takes a lot. (One of my friends broke a rib catching a crab in bow of an 8, a sweep boat. Crabs also literally eject rowers from the boat sometimes, depending on the angles of occurrence (rare, but often enough to be well known. The oar generally stays attached to the oarlock, through all of that.)
For non-rowers, "catching a crab" is a thing where the oar blade gets sucked into the water when the boat is moving; the boat's momentum carries the blade under the boat and away from the rower, the shaft/handle drives back toward the rower with the force of the boat's momentum. Most crabs are minor, just disruptive to rhythm . . . but sometimes the rower must/can duck under the shaft with a quick layback, sometimes it hits the body and causes injuries, sometimes it hits at a rising angle and ejects the rower into the air/water (yes, depending on where they are in the boat, they're then at risk in the water of other rowers' blades hitting them). There are various things that can trigger a crab, but it's usually some (geometrically minor) problem in bladework, such as not having the blade fully squared up when it goes into the water. There are videos of "ejector crabs" on YouTube if anyone thinks I'm making this up. I saw one happen at Big Ten Championships one year, even.
To the bolded: Mine doesn't go very fast, though admittedly much faster than I could go in a fast canoe or kayak via only self-power. One needs to reach a certain level of technique before reaching even one's own personal level of "fast", of course. Like your water-sports, it's pretty technical. I'd say more technical, just to do the basic thing in easy conditions, as compared with canoeing/kayaking in easy conditions. (You know, others may not, that I also canoe and kayak, just not much of either in recent years.)0 -
twenty minutes of easy run/walk this morning. Heading to the lake for an open water swim after work.3
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The newer sculls can weight around 3 pounds each. Length varies a bit, maybe 9 feet. Sweeps (the one oar per person variant) are longer by a couple feet, so a little heavier. They sculls are designed so that when the oar is in the oarlock, properly positioned, properly rigged boat, the blade sits with its top edge just at the water's surface, and the left handle is very slightly higher than the right (US). (Sweeps sit similarly automatically through engineering, but of course no "left over right" thing going on.)
On rowing shells (of this type), the oarlock is pretty solidly locked. There's a gate at the top of the oarlock that fits into place, then there's a knurled, threaded knob that screws down to encircle a collar-ish piece and hold the oar in place. They can come out during flips or whatever, but it takes a lot. (One of my friends broke a rib catching a crab in bow of an 8, a sweep boat. Crabs also literally eject rowers from the boat sometimes, depending on the angles of occurrence (rare, but often enough to be well known. The oar generally stays attached to the oarlock, through all of that.)
My 9.5' oar shafts weigh four pounds or so, and the blades weigh another 3.5 pounds. They are glass/carbon composite.
If ordered with counterweights, the counterweight is four pounds. I think that's too much. The idea is to have them balanced at the oarlock. We set oar length up depending on boat width, seat height, and oar tower height/angle. Folks try to set up so about 2/3 of the oar is outboard of the tubes and 1/3 inside. Some people use pins and clips rather than oarlocks. Advantage is you always know where your blade angle is. You will never "miss" a stroke. Some people call them "training wheels," but the Class V catarafters in Idaho tend towards pins and clips. I like open oars so I can feather and I can pull the oar in if I have to. I WANT them to pop out if I hit something hard because the other option is that they break.
I think my bent-shaft flatwater canoe paddle weights 13 ounces. My whitewater canoe paddle is twice that. My whitewater kayak paddle is about three times the weight of that little bent shaft.
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We had to do a 12 min emom of 1 hang snatch + 2 overhead squats at the highly intimidating weights of 55%, 65% and 75% for 4 sets each.
Doing regular snatch grip overhead squats really hurts my wrists so I have to do a grip that's halfway between snatch and clean. But I can't snatch, let alone hang snatch, with that halfway grip. I ended up finding a spot 1 or 2 fingerswidths further towards the snatch grip than the halfway point. For me, 75% is 33,75kg, a weight that we can't create with the plates we have at the gym. My previous 1rm hang snatch was 27,5kg so I was very intimidated. I tried a 30kg one and it was fine. I tried a 35kg one (77,77%) and I ended up pushing it up into lockout so that was a no. So I went for 32,5kg which is 72,22%. And it was fine. I was a little behind everyone as trying the 35kg took a little time off the 12 minutes so everyone else had a great view of what I was doing. One girl ended up blurting out "oh my god, you're so strong" after I did my first 32,5kg hang snatch 😂 it was so funny. And apparently my technique is very good at light weights (32,5kg and below) so people were copying my movements 😂 so funny. I only have 6 months of oly experience.
Then we had to do 5 sets of 5 floating snatch pulls at 55%, 60% and 65% for the last 3. We could choose between high pulls and regular pulls so I ended up doing high pulls for all sets, at 22,5kg, 25kg and 27,5kg. It was great fun.
Now I am very sleepy so shower then bed.3 -
@mtaratoot, I'm going to stop here with this subthread, since it's off-topic to this thread pretty big time.
Last comment: If you've never seen a forcola, the oarlock-equivalent on a gondola and like craft, you should Google it. (Yes, gondolas are rowed, not poled.) A member used to keep a sandolo (similar boat type, smaller than gondola) in our boathouse, and I was able to row it a couple of times. It. is. not. easy. . . . and part of the difficulty is the open nature of the forcola (which also looks like a beautiful abstract sculpture!).1 -
I started a new mesocycle today. Push day, but with deadlifts thrown in (don't ask...one of those 1-off things out of sheer necessity).3
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Brief (because I have a call planned shortly), did supersets in the AM again and then 8 X 500m row w/ one minute recovery (very hard with that short of recovery). 1:58.0 average, a .5 second improvement from last week, but this was MUCH cooler today so that was to be expected. Last week was like 102 at lunch and today was 85. Like night and day.3
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Rest day3
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Bike out of the shop today, tuned up and with a whole new front shifter (not just cables) and a new chain, so I took it out for a late-afternoon shakeout ride. Feels all smooth! 😀 23.3 miles, 10.6mph moving average, mostly Z2, about 17' Z3.
No fewer than 3 new detours on the trail, with this very special "figure it out, kiddo" signage at a point where two different detours needed direction signs. 🤣
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Worked with my PT today: squats, pull-ups, lunge+row combo, Bulgarian split squats (I hate these with a passion, they are the worst!), leg extension, lat pull down.2
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I did my gymnastics homework today and it was all arms.
4 sets of 10 assisted strict pull ups
4 sets of 15 trx ring rows and 10 db bicep curls per arm, with 5kg DBs, resting as much as needed after each set.
Afterwards I rolled out my arms because I was feeling every arm muscle I have. It was so intense for a 45 min workout.
Tomorrow's a forced day off because I can't do the workout and the pilates instructor is on vacation. I'll see if I can go on a walk.
Idk if I mentioned my knee hurting a lot but it started saturday afternoon and mostly I just tried not to overdo it and all the pain is gone as of this morning. Yay!3 -
@Ann, great to hear that you're back on two wheels. This is a great time of year to ride.
I did my basic return to running progression in the morning, then an open water swim after work yesterday.
I'm looking forward to an easy 90 minute ride bike tonight with my physical therapist, who is somewhat new to the roads.
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Push day in the weight room: bench press, incline DB press, decline cable fly, standing overhead press, lying EZ-bar extends4
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I lifted a little, doing:
3 sets of 5, OHP, 40 kgs
Front squat, 2 sets of 5, 60kgs
Deadlift, 1 set of 5, 100kgs2 -
Momentary return to a li'l ol' lady 2-a-day today:
This morning, rowed my usual 7k-ish in 2 seat (engine room) of the quad, and pushed a little harder because I had the mental bandwidth for it when not steering, also worked on my technique recommendations from last week's coached row. I'm really happy that some of my rowing buddies are volunteering to bow the quad sometimes, so I don't always do it.
This evening, I went to my first-ever group cycle outing. One of my regular rowing buddies encouraged me to join the ride, an easy-pace women's ride organized by a local bike shop. I didn't count, but I think there were around 12-15 women, and about half of us added an additional few miles via a loop at the end.
By coincidence, the trail they were doing tonight was part of my routine biking route, though I didn't know that when I told me friend I'd join in. It was a shorter distance, and a tiny bit slower pace than my Tu/Th rides have been: 12.3 miles, 9.3mph moving average (and I did a good bit of coasting to stay in line, as it was a mostly single-file trail). That was a good thing, though: I'm not used to a bike ride plus rowing all in one day, and it was very manageable . . . but let's just say I'm fully aware that I have quads, right now. We'll see what tomorrow brings. 😆
If the aftermath is also OK (including being able to get the usual Thursday ride in tomorrow if weather permits), I'll maybe keep participating in the group.6 -
183 minutes on my Elliptical for 12.35 miles. I'm off work for 6 days. Hopefully the kick start I need for a downward trend again!3
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Felt fine after yesterday's row/bike double, so went on with my normal Thursday bike ride, 23.4 miles, 10.7mph moving average, all but 3' were Z2 and below, so taking it pretty easy. Strong-ish wind from West, high teens gusting to mid 20s mph, which was a headwind or crosswind on some open stretches on the ride.
Supervised open rowing tonight, but didn't do anything active other than carrying some boats and oars.4 -
We did a short 10 min amrap of 3-6-9-12-15-etc power clean and push jerks + ring rows. I did 25kg and hang power c&js. I did 70 reps total! I'm very happy.
I know I pushed myself because at the accessory work my arms felt weak and I had to break stuff up into sets.
Now I just wanna nap. I got some walking in yesterday and this morning but overall I only did 4 workouts and this weekend I'm too busy. Next week I am off work so I'm planning to do 8 workouts total, which should be doable, and thursday I'm helping my sister move.3 -
I’m on here looking for 5-10 consistent members to have as friends who are motivated and active. Not liking for a large group of people. Just consistent, hard working people looking to take on challenging one day at a time. I’m a semi serious runner looking to run a 2:25 marathon. Looking to get stronger and be stronger then excuses I’ve used in the past.
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My workout today was a one hour run. Looking to get back to strength work tomorrow after taking the week off to recover from my trail race ultra last week3 -
Leg day at the gym later on today! I lov leg day!5
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Whitewater kayaking. First time in over two years. I forgot how much I love to dance on the water with that nine-foot plastic boat. So fluid. So forgiving. I can move quickly across the current either forward or backwards, and I can surf waves of so many sizes.
It was hot out - three digit hot. I just wore some thin 0.5 mm neoprene shorts, an old Hydroskin shirt, and a short-sleeve semi-dry paddle top. The water was warmer than it usually is, but at 59° it was still cold. I was pleasantly surprised that after I'd go through a wave or hole and get gallons of water all over, I would momentarily be slightly chilled, but it didn't last.
We had one swimmer at Marten Creek Rapids. Hit a giant hole at the bottom, flipped, and failed to roll. I was downstream waiting in an eddy. I ferried out to him and was going to bulldoze his boat to an eddy. Not moving, so I told him to grab the back of my boat. He did, but then he let go. We told him to let go of the boat. A friend wrangled the boat, and I told the victim again to grab my boat. He did, but then he let go again. Last time he hung on, but he was dragging his feet. I told him to kick, and he said he didn't want to lose his shoe. I said KICK! He didn't. I got him to shore, then paddled back up to where his boat was. I clipped my tow tether onto his rescue bar and started paddling. That's when I realized he didn't have any float bags in his boat, and it's a huge boat over 90 gallons. Would. Not. Move. I shoved it out into the current to get it moving, then was able to pendulum it into the eddy where he was waiting. He pointed to where he was standing and said, "This would be a good place to get back in." I told him, well, your boat is here.
Several people admonished him for not having float bags. He said he had one. It wasn't inflated. Later he was saying something about flipping, and I reminded him float bags don't do anything when you're paddling, just keep water our if you leave your boat. He said, "I know what they're for." A couple of us said, "Get some new ones."
Next time I paddle with him, I'll check his boat first. If he doesn't have bags, I'll tell him that if he swims, I will rescue him, but he's on his own to chase his boat down.
But boy howdy was it a good time paddling that little boat.
Tomorrow I'll be in a tandem canoe with a friend pulling invasive weeds with an organized group, then Sunday in a solo canoe scouting the first day of a five-day paddle trip. Yeah. I guess I like paddles.7 -
No paddles in my life today, but oars again (unsurprisingly). This time, we were in the quad, and I rowed 2 seat (one seat bow-ward of the stroke rower, who's stern-most in the shell).
Once again in the engine room (2 and 3 seat in a quad), I was trying to get some power on each stroke again, feel a little decompression from the seat on each drive. In addition, our stroke rower (who sets the cadence, i.e., strokes per minute) was taking us a beat or two faster than most others in our group do in stroke; and the bow rower (also her first time this season in bow, responsible for steering and other calls) called some power tens, so there was a bit of an interval workout in there for a while.
About 1/3 of the row was Z3 for me, and a tiny bit of Z4, so still not super intense, but a bit more than we've done on so many of the hotter days.
I have to admit, I didn't individually do much tech focus. Somehow, the mood in the boat was a little goofy. There was a nice deer sighting (young spike buck); and some focusing on an earworm song that 2 seat was experiencing ("Kung Fu Fighting"), then that turned into individuals singing lines from different train songs when the freight trains ran the track section by the river, and that sort of thing. It was fun, but I spent more brain bandwidth on fun than technique, this time. (Usually, we don't talk much in the boat - let alone sing - except during water breaks when we turn at the bridges.)
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191 minutes on my Elliptical for 14 miles this AM. Then leg press 100# 5 sets of 20, Lat pull downs on a cable system 60# 3 sets of 20, then a cable row 60# 2 sets of 20, bicep curls with dumbbells 10# 2 sets of 20 and tricep kickbacks 10# 2 sets of 20. And giving blood tonight.4
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Worked out with my PT today and it felt good but tiring. My legs!!
RDLs, hamstring curl, leg extension, glute bridge, hip thrusts, several different row variations.5 -
More rowing, 3 seat of the quad, the usual 7k-ish. Today, we did some power 10s, and a couple of race starts (special stroke sequence to get the boat up to speed quickly from a standstill), plus a wide-grip drill that one of the club's learn-to-row coaches (who was rowing her single this AM) suggested to us. (I'd done a similar drill before when sweeping, but never sculling.) I also gave a little personal attention to technical stuff, mostly suspension and releases. Bit over 8' Z3, rest below.5
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Leg day!
Squats, leg press, calf raises, leg curls and leg extension
I also took my son for a walk around the town park this morning for 40 mins4
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