Weight gain at 1400 a day

cpollard26

I absolutely agree with starting slow. And I was not specific on the level of intensity given it is personal for everyone. BUT, I disagree that being calorie deficient is “all you need to do to burn fat”. That is straight up *kitten*. It is far more complex then that in many cases and why there is a lack of success behind many weight loss stories. Not to even going start on the quality of intake of calories, macro and micro nutrient levels variant on genetic disposition, insulin control, metabolic efficiency, stress, etc. 2 hours a day. Walking. Therabands. Sitting and standing for reps. Medicine ball instead of a couch. Stair walking. Keep it simple, keep it light but move out of your comfort zone that has not worked in the past. Sedentary lifestyles are a result of evolution and technology, not the way in which the human body is designed.

AnvilHead

cpollard26 wrote: »

I absolutely agree with starting slow. And I was not specific on the level of intensity given it is personal for everyone. BUT, I disagree that being calorie deficient is “all you need to do to burn fat”. That is straight up *kitten*. It is far more complex then that in many cases and why there is a lack of success behind many weight loss stories. Not to even going start on the quality of intake of calories, macro and micro nutrient levels variant on genetic disposition, insulin control, metabolic efficiency, stress, etc. 2 hours a day. Walking. Therabands. Sitting and standing for reps. Medicine ball instead of a couch. Stair walking. Keep it simple, keep it light but move out of your comfort zone that has not worked in the past. Sedentary lifestyles are a result of evolution and technology, not the way in which the human body is designed.

I don't think anybody is going to argue that exercise isn't a good idea for a lot of reasons. But if you're not in a calorie deficit (by whatever means one attains that), you won't lose weight. Period. That's not an opinion, that is a scientifically known/verified fact.

jonathanpitman1

It is thermodynamically impossible to gain fat while eating at a deficit. As a good number of people have already told you, you are probably not calculating things correctly. Another possibility that I thought of is that medication could be slowing your metabolism down or it could be making you put on water weight. I'm on several medications which cause both of these side effects. I noticed you mentioned you are depressed. I'm guessing you're taking meds for that. Many antidepressants can cause these side effects.

mlinci

To the OP - based on what others have written about your diary, I echo the other poster who suggested you cook your own meals from scratch.
Do you have access to a fridge, freezer and a basic cooker? That’s really the main precondition. Everyone can find time to prepare meals, and everyone can learn how to cook. Everyone can learn how to count calories (and there’s a lots of posts in this forum to help you with that). If you were fully in control of your meals, you would be able to identify a meal plan that is enabling you to feel more satisfied and still lose weight.
I’m a 5’5 relatively light woman who went from 185 to 139-ish lbs by eating about 1800 calories a day. If you were really eating 1400 calories on average per day, you’d be melting fast. Some of your effort to succeed at this needs to go towards understanding - and managing- your calories in better.

lemurcat2

OP, assuming you are still reading, do you have any thoughts or a plan?

I think some people are way over-complicating it, so I hope that's not making things more stressful.

kimny72

lemurcat2 wrote: »

OP, assuming you are still reading, do you have any thoughts or a plan?

I think some people are way over-complicating it, so I hope that's not making things more stressful.

Agreed! OP doesn't need to cook from scratch, exercise for 2 hours a day, cut out food groups, or anything like that. There's nothing wrong with any of that, but it's not realistic to tell someone who's struggling to do a complete 180 and change everything, nor is it necessary.

OP seriously, just get a food scale and commit to logging accurately and consistently for a couple of months. I do think it might be easier to get accurate data if you replace some of the fast food with items you can control portion sizes of better, but that too can be something you work up to bit by bit. Move more, whenever you can. Baby steps are still progress. Again, best of luck!

rsclause

cpollard26 wrote: »

I absolutely agree with starting slow. And I was not specific on the level of intensity given it is personal for everyone. BUT, I disagree that being calorie deficient is “all you need to do to burn fat”. That is straight up *kitten*. It is far more complex then that in many cases and why there is a lack of success behind many weight loss stories. Not to even going start on the quality of intake of calories, macro and micro nutrient levels variant on genetic disposition, insulin control, metabolic efficiency, stress, etc. 2 hours a day. Walking. Therabands. Sitting and standing for reps. Medicine ball instead of a couch. Stair walking. Keep it simple, keep it light but move out of your comfort zone that has not worked in the past. Sedentary lifestyles are a result of evolution and technology, not the way in which the human body is designed.

Looks like you have stepped on the third rail and your "woo" meter is pegging out. I do agree it is more complex than that but that view is not well tolerated here.

janejellyroll

rsclause wrote: »

cpollard26 wrote: »

I absolutely agree with starting slow. And I was not specific on the level of intensity given it is personal for everyone. BUT, I disagree that being calorie deficient is “all you need to do to burn fat”. That is straight up *kitten*. It is far more complex then that in many cases and why there is a lack of success behind many weight loss stories. Not to even going start on the quality of intake of calories, macro and micro nutrient levels variant on genetic disposition, insulin control, metabolic efficiency, stress, etc. 2 hours a day. Walking. Therabands. Sitting and standing for reps. Medicine ball instead of a couch. Stair walking. Keep it simple, keep it light but move out of your comfort zone that has not worked in the past. Sedentary lifestyles are a result of evolution and technology, not the way in which the human body is designed.

Looks like you have stepped on the third rail and your "woo" meter is pegging out. I do agree it is more complex than that but that view is not well tolerated here.

It's because the posters here tend to be evidence-based. OP isn't in a deficit, that's why he isn't seeing the results he expects. There's absolutely no reason to make it more complicated than that.

kshama2001

neonmage0 wrote: »

nutmegoreo wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

I have a a feeling OP wont be back.hope that isnt the issue and he figures this out.

In a way, I hope that he got his answers and doesn't come back. This has turned into a bunch of unhelpful/unsubstantiated/unnecessary stuff being posted that will likely overwhelm him, and lead him to give up.

OP, if you have come back and get to this point... I stand by the recommendation to just start with logging everything accurately. After that, then focus on the next step. You don't need to reduce carbs, you don't need to exercise for 2 hours per day, and for the love of all things holy, ignore anything by Fung.

Nope still here. Had to sleep at some point today. Dig out my food scale this morning and I’m off to play a few rounds of disc golf. And as far as working out for a couple months I was lifting weights and swimming an hour or two a day I just got burnt out on it and am trying to dig up some motivation to get back to it.

I rarely have motivation, especially if the sun isn't out. I rely on creating habits instead. I often have to force myself to start exercising, but am always glad I did. I struggle with depression and anxiety, and regular exercise is crucial for me to manage this.

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CharlieBeansmomTracey

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

nowine4me wrote: »

Barring any medical issues, There is no possible way you are not losing if you are indeed eating 1400 cals a day. Top things I’d check are oils used in cooking and your portion sizes.

I know at one point I wasnt losing anything eating 1400(and less) and I have been weighing(my food) for the last 3+ years.they cant find any reason why I should not be losing weight. thyroid is fine, hormone levels fine,no deficiencies,. nada. one summer I helped hubby tear down a house and we were active pretty much all day. I weighed and counted all my food and was in a deficit of more than 1000 calories. we did that for a few weeks(its time consuming if you want to do it the right way) not to mention the big hill we had to walk up and down). I lost NO weight what so ever. even if I were to eat in a 1000 calorie deficit now I still would lose about a half lb a month if that. no joking.

I dont binge,when I do have a day of going over I still should be in a deficit. I stopped eating in a deficit and am losing fat. havent lost weight but have gained a little yet my clothes still fit the same.one pair of my jeans are falling down as I have to keep pulling them up.I dont understand it at all but whatever it is is finally working for me. when I was in a deficit(250 calories) I was still hungry and had no energy.I took diet breaks too.so Im going to just keep doing what Im doing and go from there.its like my body doesnt like deficits.weird I know.

I love how I got woos(im sure they are negative woos) when this is what happened to me. I weigh everything and have weighed everything for more than 3 years. I know its supposed to be CICO but for me something is off and yet none of my tests show anything is wrong. no matter who or what blood tests they do. even on days I was getting more than 13000 steps and working out for 30-60 min. nothing was happening.

you all can say I ate more than I thought I was,or it was me eating more exercise calories back(nope at one point I was eating 1500 calories and not eating any of those exercise calories back at all). still didnt see a budge. and I give it time too. more than a month. my weight loss is so slow even with a big deficit its hard to understand why this is. so if drs or scientist or whatever want to come pay me for studying me they can contact meI would be willing to prove that Im an oddball for sure.

wmd1979

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

nowine4me wrote: »

Barring any medical issues, There is no possible way you are not losing if you are indeed eating 1400 cals a day. Top things I’d check are oils used in cooking and your portion sizes.

I know at one point I wasnt losing anything eating 1400(and less) and I have been weighing(my food) for the last 3+ years.they cant find any reason why I should not be losing weight. thyroid is fine, hormone levels fine,no deficiencies,. nada. one summer I helped hubby tear down a house and we were active pretty much all day. I weighed and counted all my food and was in a deficit of more than 1000 calories. we did that for a few weeks(its time consuming if you want to do it the right way) not to mention the big hill we had to walk up and down). I lost NO weight what so ever. even if I were to eat in a 1000 calorie deficit now I still would lose about a half lb a month if that. no joking.

I dont binge,when I do have a day of going over I still should be in a deficit. I stopped eating in a deficit and am losing fat. havent lost weight but have gained a little yet my clothes still fit the same.one pair of my jeans are falling down as I have to keep pulling them up.I dont understand it at all but whatever it is is finally working for me. when I was in a deficit(250 calories) I was still hungry and had no energy.I took diet breaks too.so Im going to just keep doing what Im doing and go from there.its like my body doesnt like deficits.weird I know.

I love how I got woos(im sure they are negative woos) when this is what happened to me. I weigh everything and have weighed everything for more than 3 years. I know its supposed to be CICO but for me something is off and yet none of my tests show anything is wrong. no matter who or what blood tests they do. even on days I was getting more than 13000 steps and working out for 30-60 min. nothing was happening.

you all can say I ate more than I thought I was,or it was me eating more exercise calories back(nope at one point I was eating 1500 calories and not eating any of those exercise calories back at all). still didnt see a budge. and I give it time too. more than a month. my weight loss is so slow even with a big deficit its hard to understand why this is. so if drs or scientist or whatever want to come pay me for studying me they can contact meI would be willing to prove that Im an oddball for sure.

There seem to be quite a few people around here whose bodies inexplicably defy the laws of thermodynamics. I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting to get contacted by a scientist to study you though, because anyone who is fact based knows that weight loss requires a calorie deficit. If you weren't losing weight over a three year span, then you weren't in a calorie deficit. It really is as simple as that whether you choose to believe it or not.

ninerbuff

Get your hormones checked to see if there's a health issue. An AVERAGE male should easily eat 1400 calories and lose weight. Even if he only weighed 180lbs.

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TavistockToad

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

nowine4me wrote: »

Barring any medical issues, There is no possible way you are not losing if you are indeed eating 1400 cals a day. Top things I’d check are oils used in cooking and your portion sizes.

I know at one point I wasnt losing anything eating 1400(and less) and I have been weighing(my food) for the last 3+ years.they cant find any reason why I should not be losing weight. thyroid is fine, hormone levels fine,no deficiencies,. nada. one summer I helped hubby tear down a house and we were active pretty much all day. I weighed and counted all my food and was in a deficit of more than 1000 calories. we did that for a few weeks(its time consuming if you want to do it the right way) not to mention the big hill we had to walk up and down). I lost NO weight what so ever. even if I were to eat in a 1000 calorie deficit now I still would lose about a half lb a month if that. no joking.

I dont binge,when I do have a day of going over I still should be in a deficit. I stopped eating in a deficit and am losing fat. havent lost weight but have gained a little yet my clothes still fit the same.one pair of my jeans are falling down as I have to keep pulling them up.I dont understand it at all but whatever it is is finally working for me. when I was in a deficit(250 calories) I was still hungry and had no energy.I took diet breaks too.so Im going to just keep doing what Im doing and go from there.its like my body doesnt like deficits.weird I know.

I love how I got woos(im sure they are negative woos) when this is what happened to me. I weigh everything and have weighed everything for more than 3 years. I know its supposed to be CICO but for me something is off and yet none of my tests show anything is wrong. no matter who or what blood tests they do. even on days I was getting more than 13000 steps and working out for 30-60 min. nothing was happening.

you all can say I ate more than I thought I was,or it was me eating more exercise calories back(nope at one point I was eating 1500 calories and not eating any of those exercise calories back at all). still didnt see a budge. and I give it time too. more than a month. my weight loss is so slow even with a big deficit its hard to understand why this is. so if drs or scientist or whatever want to come pay me for studying me they can contact meI would be willing to prove that Im an oddball for sure.

But OP isn't eating as little as he claims, so CICO applies to him....

Alex

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