Apple cider vinegar!
nyahela
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A friend adviced me to buy apple cider vinegar to loose more. Does it really work?
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Nope but it makes nice salad dressings and bbq ribs21
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I hear the type with "mother" is supposed to be good for you but I can't recall why.20
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No. The only thing drinking it might make you lose is your will to live. Nastiest tasting crap ever!
And even if you can get beyond the taste, there are no proven benefits to drinking the stuff for weight loss.
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I tried it once, because I was curious. Tasted exactly like bile. Nasty, nasty stuff! But it did put me off food for a bit, at least until I could rinse my mouth out with Listerine.
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I took if for months for something unrelated to weight loss and it had no effect on either condition.
I do use Bragg's for cooking and the big cheap gallons of ACV for cleaning, especially to get the "new clothes smell" out of new clothes. (They will reek of vinegar when wet but the smell is not noticeable to me when dry.)4 -
I hear the type with "mother" is supposed to be good for you but I can't recall why.
Because of probiotics, which may turn out to be good for people, but the scientific jury's still out on the question. (The "mother" is just the vinegar culture, nothing exotic.)
Drank it for weeks at a time (for other reasons, still speculative) during meticulously-logged weight loss, and didn't drink it for weeks at a time during the same.
It made zero difference in my weight loss rate, and didn't affect appetite. (I actually like its taste, even plain).
The (better) science also suggests no weight loss effect.7 -
No different than drinking pickle juice. Oh wait, pickle juice taste better.
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Runaroundafieldx2 wrote: »Nope but it makes nice salad dressings and bbq ribs
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It works well for catching fruit flies. Put out a little bowl of ACV with a couple of drops of dish soap in it, and the fruit flies will flock to it.
There is no food at all that has special weight loss properties.15 -
I hear the type with "mother" is supposed to be good for you but I can't recall why.
Because of probiotics, which may turn out to be good for people, but the scientific jury's still out on the question. (The "mother" is just the vinegar culture, nothing exotic.)
Drank it for weeks at a time (for other reasons, still speculative) during meticulously-logged weight loss, and didn't drink it for weeks at a time during the same.
It made zero difference in my weight loss rate, and didn't affect appetite. (I actually like its taste, even plain).
The (better) science also suggests no weight loss effect.
Yes, probiotics. So possibly good for you -- although there are many other sources of probiotics, and apple cider vinegar with the mother isn't different than other types with the mother (which are available in my groceries, anyway). ACV (or Bragg's specifically) just is good at marketing. But nothing to do with weight loss.
Anyway, I enjoy vinegar, but for most people using it in salad dressing or cooking is going to be more enjoyable than drinking it with only water.0 -
The most recent opinion seems to be that probiotics do nothing for the vast majority of people but can be helpful for those who just finished a course of antibiotics.
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No it doesn’t work and you should probably never listen to this friends advice regarding health, nutrition and weight loss again.15
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The most recent opinion seems to be that probiotics do nothing for the vast majority of people but can be helpful for those who just finished a course of antibiotics.
With due respect, as I believe your field is science, and mine isn't: I'm still reading studies, and hedging my bets.
From what I've read, I'm inclined to agree with you about commercial probiotic supplements.
My amateur's sense has been that the contribution and role of our microbiome is really only just beginning to be investigated seriously, and that the specific role of various microorganisms is still mostly poorly understood. My impresssion is that there seems to be some hint that healthy diversity is good (without much clarity about the definition of "healthy diversity") and that a very limited diversity tends to correlate with some negative outcomes (without much clarity about why such a thing should be so).
Since humans have been eating certain probiotic foods for millennia, I expect those will prove to be safe (vinegars are one). Since many of them are also (IMO) tasty, and make a good nutritional contribution to my eating, I'll continue making it a point to consume them. Like I said, hedging my bets.
I skip the ones that aren't tasty IMO, however safe. Kombucha is so far still in that category, but I haven't tried making my own.
Edited: missing word.
Also eta: Even so, the reason I said what I did about the belief regarding ACV being "good for you", was to explain the belief, not to support it. I should've said so. My main reason for drinking ACV (rather than just putting it in food) is an N = 1 experiment (one I wouldn't perform if I didn't like the stuff). As I read it, there's reason to believe that stomach acidity declines in some people as we age; I'm pretty old. Since I've been diagnosed with IBSC in the past, the experiment is about whether consuming some seems to help keep unpleasant symptoms at bay. Jury's still out on benefits; no sign of harms so far (and I've had various GI scopes for other reasons, and see a dentist regularly).3 -
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The most recent opinion seems to be that probiotics do nothing for the vast majority of people but can be helpful for those who just finished a course of antibiotics.
With due respect, as I believe your field is science, and mine isn't: I'm still reading studies, and hedging my bets.
From what I've read, I'm inclined to agree with you about commercial probiotic supplements.
My amateur's sense has been that the contribution and role of our microbiome is really only just beginning to be investigated seriously, and that the specific role of various microorganisms is still mostly poorly understood. My impresssion is that there seems to be some hint that healthy diversity is good (without much clarity about the definition of "healthy diversity") and that a very limited diversity tends to correlate with some negative outcomes (without much clarity about why such a thing should be so).
Also eta: Even so, the reason I said what I did about the belief regarding ACV being "good for you", was to explain the belief, not to support it. I should've said so. My main reason for drinking ACV (rather than just putting it in food) is an N = 1 experiment (one I wouldn't perform if I didn't like the stuff). As I read it, there's reason to believe that stomach acidity declines in some people as we age; I'm pretty old. Since I've been diagnosed with IBSC in the past, the experiment is about whether consuming some seems to help keep unpleasant symptoms at bay. Jury's still out on benefits; no sign of harms so far (and I've had various GI scopes for other reasons, and see a dentist regularly).
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I agree that there is much to be learned about the microbiome, which is why my comment came with the caveat that this is the "recent opinion" which we all know changes regularly.
As far as ACV being beneficial, harmful, or neutral it seems that, for the majority of people, it is neutral. Some find it makes acid reflux worse, others find it makes it better. There is some correlation to acetic acid (from any vinegar, not just ACV) helping with blood glucose control but the jury is out on that one. The studies have shown enough of a correlation that further studies are warranted to see if it i actually does help or if this was a one-off.
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I really hate the taste0
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I don’t think it works like I here. I take 2 tablets once a day and I think it can help people with PH issues especially if doing the Atkins diet or Keto life style change but other than that, not really noticing much.23
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They're tasty in the old-timey summer drink called a "shrub" (with or without the booze):
https://food52.com/blog/13831-how-to-make-shrubs-aka-drinking-vinegars-without-a-recipe
If you don't want to make your own, you can buy ready-made drinking apple cider vinegar mixes here:
https://www.mcclarybros.com/collections/vinegar-sets
You'll notice that the Food52 article and McClary Bros. site make no mention of magical health benefits - because there are none. My grandmother swore by apple cider vinegar as a cure-all, but she's, well, long dead.
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amba89lynn wrote: »I don’t think it works like I here. I take 2 tablets once a day and I think it can help people with PH issues especially if doing the Atkins diet or Keto life style change but other than that, not really noticing much.
Your body regulates pH very well. If not, you would die.16 -
amba89lynn wrote: »I don’t think it works like I here. I take 2 tablets once a day and I think it can help people with PH issues especially if doing the Atkins diet or Keto life style change but other than that, not really noticing much.
pH issues require medical intervention/monitoring. Not vinegar.12 -
I really hate the taste
I would seriously not consume it, then . . . and I say that as someone who does. Life is too short for things that don't taste good, in the face of so many delicious things (even allowing for certain personal dislikes) that are also good for you.
Skip the ACV. Really.2 -
A friend adviced me to buy apple cider vinegar to loose more. Does it really work?
@nyahela here is a source on its history of usage and some studies. I do not use it or any other food for weight loss for weight loss but for health improvement in general.
https://webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar-and-your-health
Basically like with most foods I eat what I want that works for me until someone posts peer reviewed research that proves it is harmful to my health.
RD once was read in many homes.
https://rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/15 -
my take on ACV- I started drinking it as a kind of cure all. I have been drinking it for 1 yr faithfully for weeks at a time with brief breaks in between. I noticed it gives me energy. I’ve had blood work done since I started drinking the ACV and the Dr said I had perfect blood work. Previous blood work results were not so perfect for me. I had high Cholesterol in the years prior to starting the ACV drink regimen. I also take a shot of cayenne capsicum tincture mixed with a small amount of water, enough for a shot glass, twice a day. So that could be the reason for the great blood work results also. I guess you have to go with your gut and what you think works for you. Good luck with your weight loss.27
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They're tasty in the old-timey summer drink called a "shrub" (with or without the booze):
https://food52.com/blog/13831-how-to-make-shrubs-aka-drinking-vinegars-without-a-recipe
If you don't want to make your own, you can buy ready-made drinking apple cider vinegar mixes here:
https://www.mcclarybros.com/collections/vinegar-sets
You'll notice that the Food52 article and McClary Bros. site make no mention of magical health benefits - because there are none. My grandmother swore by apple cider vinegar as a cure-all, but she's, well, long dead.
Personal testimony: Those McClary things are delish with vodka and soda, maybe (depending on McClary choice) a citrus wedge. Yum.1 -
I literally been drinking ACV and water for years every morning first thing because it helps me poo (sorry tmi) I also feel like it helps w bloating6
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