February 2019 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    eleanorhawkins wrote: »
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    Brave girl @avidkeo!

    Brave? not sure if I'd use that word :wink:
    And posting in a group of mostly Americans it occurs to me the privilege I have living in NZ. The idea of them having and/or using guns never crossed my mind because we just don't have them here like you to in the states. Probably why I felt comfortable to say anything at all. I might get a punch to the face but anything else never even occurred to me.

    Knives, ropes, bats, duct tape.... *Shudder*. Not me. I'ma go the other way quietly and make a panicked phone call to 911.
    Yeah... there are worse things that can happen to a person then be shot.

    lol yep totally blase because again never ever even crossed my mind. I think I live in a totally different world, or am just completely not with it.

    One of the joys of living in NZ - I'd be only concerned about getting verbally abused which is enough to stop me from saying anything. Chances are, in all likelihood, they'd be too lazy (or frankly don't care that you know they're stealing) to run after a runner.

    I'm quite relieved it's not just me lol. And yes. Isn't it wonderful having it cooler in the morning. 11 degrees here, it was bliss! Even had chilly fingers

    Not just you at all. Although these days there are occasional cases of kids being grabbed, female runners killed, etc. here in Spain it is VERY much a horrific one-off. I never even think about the possibility of anything like that, which is why I get very frustrated if my husband expresses concern about me running alone on a trail or a quiet street, for example. He would really like me to only run through the town centre where there are lots of people about, whereas I don't want to see people! When I was young I never felt unsafe along either. I remember friends in the UK talking about having to be collected by their parents after a night out, and sharing tips on walking with your keys in your hand and what to do if you were caught by a rapist and my mind always boggled. When I was around 17 a guy tried to grab me under a bridge after I got off a bus. My instant reaction was to knee him in the gonads and run to the police station down the road.
    So yeah, enough rambling but I cannot even imagine what it must be like to live somewhere where you have to be constantly on guard for wild and/or dangerous people and/or animals. I would probably last about 25 minutes!

    The last "runner abduction" I can recall here, a lady was abducted by her ex while running, who then killed her. I do also know that any incidents are always reported giving people the perception that it happens a lot. And usually, not always but usually, the person is abducted by someone they know. Hence my blaise attitude.
  • eleanorhawkins
    eleanorhawkins Posts: 1,659 Member
    edited February 2019
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    eleanorhawkins wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    ContraryMaryMary wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Scott6255 wrote: »
    Brave girl @avidkeo!

    Brave? not sure if I'd use that word :wink:
    And posting in a group of mostly Americans it occurs to me the privilege I have living in NZ. The idea of them having and/or using guns never crossed my mind because we just don't have them here like you to in the states. Probably why I felt comfortable to say anything at all. I might get a punch to the face but anything else never even occurred to me.

    Knives, ropes, bats, duct tape.... *Shudder*. Not me. I'ma go the other way quietly and make a panicked phone call to 911.
    Yeah... there are worse things that can happen to a person then be shot.

    lol yep totally blase because again never ever even crossed my mind. I think I live in a totally different world, or am just completely not with it.

    One of the joys of living in NZ - I'd be only concerned about getting verbally abused which is enough to stop me from saying anything. Chances are, in all likelihood, they'd be too lazy (or frankly don't care that you know they're stealing) to run after a runner.

    I'm quite relieved it's not just me lol. And yes. Isn't it wonderful having it cooler in the morning. 11 degrees here, it was bliss! Even had chilly fingers

    Not just you at all. Although these days there are occasional cases of kids being grabbed, female runners killed, etc. here in Spain it is VERY much a horrific one-off. I never even think about the possibility of anything like that, which is why I get very frustrated if my husband expresses concern about me running alone on a trail or a quiet street, for example. He would really like me to only run through the town centre where there are lots of people about, whereas I don't want to see people! When I was young I never felt unsafe along either. I remember friends in the UK talking about having to be collected by their parents after a night out, and sharing tips on walking with your keys in your hand and what to do if you were caught by a rapist and my mind always boggled. When I was around 17 a guy tried to grab me under a bridge after I got off a bus. My instant reaction was to knee him in the gonads and run to the police station down the road.
    So yeah, enough rambling but I cannot even imagine what it must be like to live somewhere where you have to be constantly on guard for wild and/or dangerous people and/or animals. I would probably last about 25 minutes!

    The last "runner abduction" I can recall here, a lady was abducted by her ex while running, who then killed her. I do also know that any incidents are always reported giving people the perception that it happens a lot. And usually, not always but usually, the person is abducted by someone they know. Hence my blaise attitude.

    Yes... there was a case here not long ago. A teacher in her 20s was killed while out running. Turns out it was a guy who had moved in opposite her after being released from jail, and she had complained to her boyfriend a number of times that she felt like she was being watched and followed. Although I don't think twice about going places alone etc. I do trust my instinct or gut feeling or whatever and would never run alone on country lanes in that situation.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Tonight... its nice and sunny but gonna make myself dreadmill it for a tempo run. *sigh* EMBRACE THE SUCK!

    If I only had a pacer I could do that out side...
    @PastorVincent I guess you already did your run now, but - why can't you do the tempo run outside? Is it some really complicated workout with many different paces, or simply a set fast pace? My watch (Tomtom) has the option to run a "virtual race" again a dot on the screen :mrgreen: , requires a moment of preparation at the computer but results in my own private pacer if I want to have one (and somehow more fun than a simple "pace alarm" since I can try to catch up if I slowed down for a moment, etc). Maybe your watch has a similar option.

    Because I am broken in the head or something. :dizzy:

    A tempo run is on paper a very simple thing. It is a run at the fastest speed you can run and finish an hours work out (well there is a more complicated definition, but that is what I use). So for me, I set the dreadmill at that pace (or best guess) and then I also set a 5.5% grade (or greater) cause, as I said, I am broken in the head.

    For me hitting a consistent pace without a pacer is very much hit and miss. So I dreadmill it. I am sure my Garmin could tell me when I was failing to hit pace, but that is not the same as following a pacer. At least not for me.
  • noblsheep
    noblsheep Posts: 593 Member
    edited February 2019
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Tonight... its nice and sunny but gonna make myself dreadmill it for a tempo run. *sigh* EMBRACE THE SUCK!

    If I only had a pacer I could do that out side...
    @PastorVincent I guess you already did your run now, but - why can't you do the tempo run outside? Is it some really complicated workout with many different paces, or simply a set fast pace? My watch (Tomtom) has the option to run a "virtual race" again a dot on the screen :mrgreen: , requires a moment of preparation at the computer but results in my own private pacer if I want to have one (and somehow more fun than a simple "pace alarm" since I can try to catch up if I slowed down for a moment, etc). Maybe your watch has a similar option.

    Because I am broken in the head or something. :dizzy:

    A tempo run is on paper a very simple thing. It is a run at the fastest speed you can run and finish an hours work out (well there is a more complicated definition, but that is what I use). So for me, I set the dreadmill at that pace (or best guess) and then I also set a 5.5% grade (or greater) cause, as I said, I am broken in the head.

    For me hitting a consistent pace without a pacer is very much hit and miss. So I dreadmill it. I am sure my Garmin could tell me when I was failing to hit pace, but that is not the same as following a pacer. At least not for me.

    That's what pacekeeping drones are for. :p
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    noblsheep wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Tonight... its nice and sunny but gonna make myself dreadmill it for a tempo run. *sigh* EMBRACE THE SUCK!

    If I only had a pacer I could do that out side...
    @PastorVincent I guess you already did your run now, but - why can't you do the tempo run outside? Is it some really complicated workout with many different paces, or simply a set fast pace? My watch (Tomtom) has the option to run a "virtual race" again a dot on the screen :mrgreen: , requires a moment of preparation at the computer but results in my own private pacer if I want to have one (and somehow more fun than a simple "pace alarm" since I can try to catch up if I slowed down for a moment, etc). Maybe your watch has a similar option.

    Because I am broken in the head or something. :dizzy:

    A tempo run is on paper a very simple thing. It is a run at the fastest speed you can run and finish an hours work out (well there is a more complicated definition, but that is what I use). So for me, I set the dreadmill at that pace (or best guess) and then I also set a 5.5% grade (or greater) cause, as I said, I am broken in the head.

    For me hitting a consistent pace without a pacer is very much hit and miss. So I dreadmill it. I am sure my Garmin could tell me when I was failing to hit pace, but that is not the same as following a pacer. At least not for me.

    That's what pacekeeping drones are for. :p

    Ha! If only I was rolling in money with nothing to spend it on...
  • Sparx_81
    Sparx_81 Posts: 403 Member
    @shanaber and @martaindale thank you for the support!
  • BettyM1017
    BettyM1017 Posts: 616 Member
    39 miles / 50 miles

    I have 6 miles on tap for today and 3 for Thursday so I'm going to fall a little short of my goal. Considering how crazy this month has been, I'm pretty happy with my total.

    @MobyCarp You probably answered this, and I can't find the post, but how do you "accidentally" run a marathon?
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    lporter229 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Tonight... its nice and sunny but gonna make myself dreadmill it for a tempo run. *sigh* EMBRACE THE SUCK!

    If I only had a pacer I could do that out side...
    @PastorVincent I guess you already did your run now, but - why can't you do the tempo run outside? Is it some really complicated workout with many different paces, or simply a set fast pace? My watch (Tomtom) has the option to run a "virtual race" again a dot on the screen :mrgreen: , requires a moment of preparation at the computer but results in my own private pacer if I want to have one (and somehow more fun than a simple "pace alarm" since I can try to catch up if I slowed down for a moment, etc). Maybe your watch has a similar option.

    Because I am broken in the head or something. :dizzy:

    A tempo run is on paper a very simple thing. It is a run at the fastest speed you can run and finish an hours work out (well there is a more complicated definition, but that is what I use). So for me, I set the dreadmill at that pace (or best guess) and then I also set a 5.5% grade (or greater) cause, as I said, I am broken in the head.

    For me hitting a consistent pace without a pacer is very much hit and miss. So I dreadmill it. I am sure my Garmin could tell me when I was failing to hit pace, but that is not the same as following a pacer. At least not for me.

    For me personally, a tempo run is more about effort than specific pace. I run at the effort that I feel is challenging but sustainable (not all out), which, admittedly, takes a but of practice to figure out. Then I let the pace fall where it does at that effort. That is why I feel like tempo runs are a good gauge for me and where I am in my training. Sometimes my tempo pace is close to a 7:30 and other times it is a struggle just to maintain an 8 minute mile. If I am struggling to hit that pace early on in my training, then I know I have been slacking off and I need to work harder. If it's late in my training, then I know that I need to dial it back and give myself a bit of recovery time.

    Well if we want to get official,
    So what is a true tempo run? A tempo run—also known as an anaerobic threshold or lactate-threshold run—is a pace about 25 to 30 seconds per mile slower than your current 5K race pace, according to running coach Jack Daniels, Ph.D., who popularized the tempo run in his book Daniels’ Running Formula.

    Without getting too technical, tempo pace is the effort level at which your body is able to clear as much lactate—a byproduct of burning carbohydrates—as it produces. Your body’s lactate clearance is at the same level as its lactate production, meaning the dreaded dead-leg sensation doesn’t set in.
    SRC: https://www.runnersworld.com/advanced/a20827239/what-is-a-tempo-run/

    I only say that cause if someone reads this thread and goes by one of our definitions then gets a training plan someplace that says "Tempo Run" on it, they should know what the plan probably really means :)

    Don't want to mislead anyone for sure. That is why I prefaced my response with " For me personally..."
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    BettyM1017 wrote: »
    39 miles / 50 miles

    I have 6 miles on tap for today and 3 for Thursday so I'm going to fall a little short of my goal. Considering how crazy this month has been, I'm pretty happy with my total.

    @MobyCarp You probably answered this, and I can't find the post, but how do you "accidentally" run a marathon?

    You sign up on 6 weeks' notice, based on peer pressure and finding one hotel room one mile from the start/finish area, having previously intended to run your first marathon 16 months later. That's what I did, with no pressure other than never having run the full marathon distance before and my running buddy telling me the only way I wouldn't BQ would be if I didn't finish. (He was right. To date, my marathon record is 6 starts, 5 BQs and 1 DNF.)

    Alternatively, it would be possible to sign up for a half that coincides with a full, and go the wrong direction where the half and full courses diverge. I didn't do that, though I have seen a case of a kid accidentally running a half marathon instead of a 5K that way.
  • amirahdaboss
    amirahdaboss Posts: 921 Member
    Hey everyone! I’ve got 4.5 miles on the plan for later this afternoon on the treadmill. Ditched school today for a getting papers and projects and midterm studying done in the library day which I’m currently procrastinating. Anyways, stopping in for some advice.
    As I’ve mentioned previously, I’m following Hal Higdon’s novice 1 half marathon to train for my first half marathon at the end of April(my 1 year running anniversary!). I’m currently on week 7 of the 12 week plan, and last week was a cutback week. I thought the pair of sneakers I was using were getting worn out because I was experiencing some knee pain so I took it easy to see how it went. Over the weekend, I switched to a new pair of sneakers that I bought and tried them out for a Zumba class one day and a short 2 mile run the next day. Both days, I woke up the following day experiencing the worst hip pain in my left hip that I’ve ever felt. I’m thinking it’s the shoes(they’re brooks revels 2, I bought them specifically for running and they were expensive too 😭). Thoughts? Also any ideas on how to alleviate the hip pain? I feel like my 75 year old grandmother with arthritis.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    edited February 2019
    I followed this guy when it was happening, and I actually went for a run with him in January. Its a shame to see this sort of thing happening, both the fact he felt he had to be transported some of the way and the fall out. He was running for charity, but does that make it right? I remember seeing the update when he finished and that he had "beaten" the record and was so happy for him. Then when he retracted it, I thought that was big of him. Reading this doesn't entirely change my opinion, what he did was still pretty spectacular, but its disappointing its come to this.

    and on that note, whats that website that tracks situations like this in marathons?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/110709861/driven-to-succeed-ultramarathon-runner-perry-newburns-sham-record-attempt

    ETA on the back of that, this guy has announced he's going to attempt it. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110770546/running-three-marathons-a-day-to-break-44yearold-new-zealand-record
  • kevaasen
    kevaasen Posts: 173 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    I followed this guy when it was happening, and I actually went for a run with him in January. Its a shame to see this sort of thing happening, both the fact he felt he had to be transported some of the way and the fall out. He was running for charity, but does that make it right? I remember seeing the update when he finished and that he had "beaten" the record and was so happy for him. Then when he retracted it, I thought that was big of him. Reading this doesn't entirely change my opinion, what he did was still pretty spectacular, but its disappointing its come to this.

    and on that note, whats that website that tracks situations like this in marathons?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/110709861/driven-to-succeed-ultramarathon-runner-perry-newburns-sham-record-attempt

    ETA on the back of that, this guy has announced he's going to attempt it. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110770546/running-three-marathons-a-day-to-break-44yearold-new-zealand-record

    marathoninvestigation.com reports about questionable results or other racing stories or issues that typically involve some sort of cheating, unfair practice, etc.

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