For the love of Produce...

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  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    @AnnPT77

    Good buttermilk biscuits do not need nutritional defense. They just need.... butter. I finally learned how to make really good biscuits, and maybe it's just as good I am not making any. Frozen butter chunks. Cold dough. Fold and fold and fold and don't touch too much with hands. Stack 'em close in the pan so they can support each other as they grow. Yeah, I said grow instead of rise because if they don't have nutritional defense, at least they can be noble and help each other.

    My cornbread needs no defense, just willing eaters. I like to toss in some hot chiles in the batter, either dried of fresh. Sometimes fresh (or frozen) corn. Sometimes not. I use a combination of dry ingredients that is very heavy on corn and very light on wheat flour. I mix cornmeal, masa, and polenta with just about 25% or less whole wheat flour. It's a nice combination of tender and toothy.

    The other trick is the cast iron. I get the pans HOT in the oven before I even mix the wet with the dry. When they are hot, they come out of the oven, and I mix. Then I briefly wipe down the iron with butter. It sizzles and sometimes gets too brown, but whatever. Add the batter, and that sizzles and sears and seals. Pop it in the oven, and sometimes when it's ALMOST done, I wipe the top with more butter. That makes them a little greasy, but you really need to add no more butter. They are really good when they are fresh from the oven and hot. Later you can still reheat them, and they're still quite good. If you're like me, you'll eat too many.

    Some of my cast iron was my grandmother's. I've collected a few more corn stick pans over the years. The triangle pan was hers as was a couple of the stick pans.

    You've seen pictures of these going back at least three years in this very thread.


  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    Today's tasty supper came with some frustration.

    I wanted split peas AND lentils. They cook different times, but that's easy to manage.

    I started with a mirepoix and added some mushrooms and garlic. No big deal. I added enough water for both peas and lentils, and I added the peas. Ten minutes later I added the lentils. It came out quite good.

    While the peas were cooking, I entered all the ingredients in my log. I used the same entries for split peas and dried lentils I've been using lately. As it turns out, if I ate the whole pot, I would have been over on my calories by about 200. So I looked at that big pot and decided I surely didn't need to eat it all. So I went to the recipe section and manually added a recipe using the exact text strings from the ingredients I had put in my diary. I figured that way MFP would find the same foods I was using.

    Well go figure. I called it four servings, and if I ate all four, I would be about 200 calories UNDER for the day.

    That is a 400 calorie difference between adding each item directly to my diary versus letting MFP pick ingredients by however it picks to add to the recipe. Maybe I'll eat the whole thing.

    I am going to go try to find a good place to post this story just as an example of why it's really important to be careful about what entries you choose to put in your diary. I was really surprised.

    Oh. Yeah - total simmer time about 20 minutes. I cooked the peas about 12 minutes before adding the lentils for eight. The lentils were still whole and delicious instead of mush. The peas were perfect. The mushrooms and garlic added a lot; just needed a little salt. No pictures tonight even though it wasn't beige.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    edited January 2023
    I cooked garbanzo beans today. I usually leave the lid on when I cook beans, but the lid for this pot fell to the ground and smashed into pieces a few weeks ago. I cooked them with the lid off, and I think they came out better.

    I took most of them and made a garbanzo salad. Red onion, shallot, celery, lemon juice, olive oil, salt, pepper, and a couple kinds of balsamic vinegar. I would add parsley, but I have none. I tasted it, and it's fine, but it will be better tomorrow.

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    I left some of the beans in the pot, and I pureed them with an immersion blender. I figured I would have some bean soup with the last of my cornbread tonight. Lucky me; a friend came by to drop off a cooler I loaned them and to pick up some things they had stashed in my freezer when they had lost electricity for several days from the last big wind storm. I gave her six pieces of cornbread for them to share so I'm left with not too much. I can always make more. It's good, and now I don't have to worry about eating it ALL.

    Well... I won't even eat all that's left. I might save all of it for tomorrow, because I cooked something else. I think cauliflower goes great with garbanzos. I had a huge one - about a kilogram. I broke it into chunks, tossed with sunflower oil, then tossed with salt, pepper, Madras curry, smoked paprika, garlic powder, dried basil, and a couple other tasty things. I tossed in between each spice addition. For good measure, I tossed in a little olive oil on top. It filled two cooking trays. Into a 425 degree convection oven and turned after 25 minutes and cooked another 20. I took the small pieces pictured below and added them to the soup for texture, and the big pieces.... I probably won't be able to eat them tonight. I'll have 'em tomorrow. Or a late-night snack.

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    I almost took the big chunks out with the small ones, but instead stuck 'em in for ten more minutes. They came out perfect. Just a little black and crisp on the outside and tender on the inside. The curry has a sweetness when combined with the cauliflower.

    The soup is pretty damn tasty. Good bean flavor, and the cauliflower gives it a nice texture and an additional flavor. Yeah; it's kind of beige.

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  • spinnerdell
    spinnerdell Posts: 233 Member
    Those beets are such a gorgeous color! Little gems of deliciousness.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    Those beets are such a gorgeous color! Little gems of deliciousness.

    Yes, I finally shared something that wasn't beige!

    I wanted to dig in to the fresh salad greens while they were really FRESH and at their peak flavor and nutrition. I have more beets left. Today I might roast the rutabaga. I also might put my black bean soup in the freezer, just for a day, so I can then take it out and have it still be good a few more days than if I just leave it in the refrigerator since I also have a bunch of black bean SALAD, and I want to eat more than beans.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    I am almost done with all the produce my friend brought last week. I think all I have is two beets, one bunch of collard greens, and some really good carrots.

    Today I roasted the two rutabaga and served with brown jasmine rice. The rice is beige-ish, and the rutabaga would be if it didn't have a nice char.

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,169 Member
    Hmmm, I have some rutabaga left in the fridge: Maybe I should roast it? It was pretty great in my red lentil soup the other night, too, though.

    Speaking of weird brownish foods, I did an off the wall experiment last night that included produce: Kodiak pancakes with smashed roasted Georgia Candy Roaster Winter squash (some I froze a couple months back), plain Greek yogurt, pomegranate molasses, plus I added a light sprinkle of Maldon salt after the photo.
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    Yeah, weird. Tasted pretty good, though.
  • SafariGalNYC
    SafariGalNYC Posts: 1,450 Member
    Thought of you all today. Went to the store and the most vibrant hued asparagus was hoping to come home with me.

    Currently baking on cast iron in the oven.

    Wish I would see purple asparagus more often… do you have regularly in your neck of the woods?

    Got these green guys. :)

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  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,228 Member
    I needed to eat more than my budget today to make up for a deficit yesterday that was too big. I made a 798 calorie plate of delicious food based on a very large bunch of organic rainbow chard that I had planned to cook tonight.

    I cut up the leaves coarsely and chopped the stems. I sauteed an onion for a while until it was getting soft. I added the chard stems and cooked a few minutes more. I added seven very coarsely chopped cloves of garlic, and I put the chard leaves on top and closed the lid to steam, stirring from time to time. When they were getting pretty well cooked, I added some balsamic vinegar, some nutritional yeast, and some sesame seeds.

    When the chard was ~almost~ done, I added some mixed seafood (shrimp, scallops, and squid) I had marinated in a mix of soy sauce, sesame oil, ginger, and sambal oelek. I let that cook just until the seafood was done. I served it next to one serving of brown basmati rice. It was a HUGE plate. I ate it all.

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    I still have about 450 calories to work with tonight before I even break even, much less eat back some of yesterday's deficit. I'm going to wait because I'm full. I sort of want to make a batch of popcorn, but just munching on some Manchego Anejo cheese would fill the calories quickly and make me smile. I like good cheese for dessert.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,169 Member
    Seemed like pea freezin' season yesterday, and split pea soup has been a major comfort food for me since childhood.

    I like variety, so cooking a big batch and freezing the extra works for me. (This is only a medium batch. I had a nice big bowl from the pot before dishing these up, too.)

    Usually I keep the frozen version very basic, for more flexibility when thawing/using. This is just split peas cooked to near mush (the way I like 'em) with a little salt. Sometimes I add cooked-down onions, too. This time I didn't.

    I admit, with peas, it probably would've been a good idea to add onions, but I was short on supply. With something like black beans that might be used in sweets or other things where onions aren't ideal, 'no onions' increases flexibility.

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,169 Member
    That pizza looks delicious, @neanderthin!

    I guess this also is a produce meal, though not fancy: It's an an egg-cheese-roasted cauliflower-onion-dill mustard Ezekiel pita sandwich, with sides of tomatoes, apple, and a few leftover marinated mushrooms.

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  • BartBVanBockstaele
    BartBVanBockstaele Posts: 623 Member
    NDR Ratgeber is giving something to think about: what is better: fresh or frozen? In the taste test, the testers prefer fresh, but the funny thing is that one of the reasons they prefer it is actually the very reason I prefer frozen. That said, as far as I can tell, most people would agree with them, not with me. To me personally, there is no upside to fresh, even less so because of the sorry condition of most "fresh" vegetables I can buy at my local Loblaws in toronto.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZMHCcYen0M
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    Well, someone's got to eat frozen. Cheers
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,169 Member
    I prefer fresh produce, especially with respect to texture, but do eat a fair amount of frozen, especially in Winter. My frozen produce intake increased during the pandemic, too, as a way to shop less often, and I guess I've gotten in the habit a bit. I cook differently with the frozen veg: More mix-in use where texture matters less, vs. standalone with seasonings, probably.

    Unlike mtaratoot, a hearty walker/biker, for me the nearest store is a bit farther than I want to walk routinely with a load of groceries, around an 8 to 10 mile round trip. I should probably get a better cargo set-up for my bike, for summer. Nowadays, I still tend to shop only once every 1-2 weeks at stores, but go to the farmers market (all local producers) most weeks. There is produce there all year 'round despite it being Michigan, but in Winter it's more root veg from storage, sometimes some few types of greens from greenhouses (or row cover in the shoulder seasons), various sprouts or baby greens, apples, mushrooms - not a huge selection.

    In Spring to Fall, selection there is wider, and I get more of my food there. It's so fresh that it keeps much longer than the grocery store produce, too.

    At the grocery store, too, I do buy some fresh, and some things keep well for the better part of a week or so, but far from all. I have a big chest freezer in the basement, and it's nice to have frozen veg to fall back on between shopping trips. (A lot of it is basics in giant bags from Costco.) I strive to hit at least 800g veggies and fruits most days . . . that's a lot of fresh veggies to keep on hand, from Winter sources. At some point, I'd rather eat frozen veg than tired "fresh".
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    edited February 2023
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    I guess this would be a produce-ish dinner, within the constraints of Winter here?

    It was something new (experiment by a culinary philistine) but seemed pretty tasty to me.

    Ezekiel tortilla, sweet onion sliced very thin, layer of cut-up dried tomatoes that had been rehydrated in warmed aged balsamic vinegar, some leftover broiled fresh asparagus, baked for long enough to heat; then added a thin layer of Cambozola and put it back in long enough to just melt, then added fresh ground black pepper.

    I'd eat it again, if I ever happened to have those exact things on hand. Shown in its tidy just-out-of-oven form, and cut up revealing the tomato mixture.

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    I'd be all over that in a heart beat. :)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,169 Member
    That means a lot coming from you @neanderthin, because I know you're not a uneducated experimenting amateur like I am. Thanks!
  • I adore a well-prepped veggie! The meals you posted look delcious 😍 do you mind dropping your recipe for the roasted kabocha?