April 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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Happy birthday @kgirlhart ! So good to improve as you get older!
I did stationary bike yesterday with my ankle wrapped, and this morning my ankle feels slightly better than yesterday, so that’s what I’ll be doing for cardio until my Achilles is pain free. I injured it a week ago today, and it’s still slightly tender when pinched. No pain when walking, no pain on calf raise, but if I try anything that has impact like bouncing, it instantly lets me know I shouldn’t do that. Stationary bike really isn’t as much fun as running. I managed 21 minutes (6 sets of intervals, 2 minutes hard, 1 minute really hard) before giving up from sheer boredom. My stationary bike philosophy is to work as hard as I can for as short a time period as I can.
I need to drag my rear to the gym so I can do some posterior chain exercises which don’t involve my Achilles, such as hip thrusts on the Smith machine, and back extensions. Heavy lifting every two days is really helpful for my glucose control, and although I’ve been doing upper body, I don’t want to do squats or deadlifts while injured. I’m thinking that since I had increased the weight on my squat-to-weighted-calf-raise right before this tendon freaked out, that may be a part of why it’s misbehaving. I’m going to try Romanian deadlifts with my knees slightly bent and see if I can do them without feeling pressure on my calf. Also maybe goblet squats on a box, with heels elevated.3 -
PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
HAH!
I'm not saying anything about anyone's judgment, just noticed that 20 of 22 snake-bite deaths in the last decade were men. And one of the remaining two was an infant. Actually, I'm a little surprised that there aren't more children and teenagers on the list, at least that I could see. It's all adults and infants.0 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
The trails where we run are in wetland near the Wolf River, and every year we see water moccasins. Also a common sight: well meaning grandmas with toddlers at the water’s edge dabbling in the river, once literally within feet of a water moccasin. Can’t count the number of times we have told people to please be careful since we JUST saw a snake in that water. Moccasins mostly won’t kill a healthy adult but will sure mess up your month, and might just kill a small child.0 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
HAH!
I'm not saying anything about anyone's judgment, just noticed that 20 of 22 snake-bite deaths in the last decade were men. And one of the remaining two was an infant.
Oh, I have no doubt that men are more aggressive when dealing with snakes and therefore more likely to get bit, in general. I mean there are always exceptions, but really, it is no surprise. 2 -
4-1 rest
4-2 7k easy
4-3 7k easy
4-4 rest
4-5 7k easy/threshold
4-6 11k easy
4-7 7k recovery
4-8 rest
4-9 7k easy/threshold
4-10 4k slow
4-11 rest
4-12 4k easy
4-13 5k (Shine the Light)
4-14 7k recovery
4-15 rest
4-16 7k slow
4-17 7k easy/threshold
4-18 rest
April Total: 80k
April Goal: 150k
January Total: 131k
February Total: 159.5k
March Total: 183k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races.
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k.
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen
Happy birthday @kgirlhart. If you think the 50s are going to be good, wait until you get to the 60s!!!
Scheduled rest day today. Golf and trout fishing as opposed to running.
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K -- 31:12 chip time; First Place 65 and older
6-1 Freedom 5K (Will be off the schedule due to another commitment)
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5K4 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
Hmm. I wonder how much of the "being male" prong is because most women won't have the first 3 risk factors? And how much is related to the classic mating call, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
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01/04 1.73 miles
02/04 3.42 miles
03/04 3.24 miles
04/04 2.37 miles
05/04 3.51 miles
06/04 3.22 miles
07/04 2.78 miles
08/04 2.08 miles
09/04 3.22 miles
10/04 3.24 miles
11/04 2.23 miles
12/04 1.04 miles - for the April Streak
13/04 4.14 miles
14/04 4.08 miles
15/04 2.04 miles
16/04 3.23 miles
17/04 1.05 miles - another for the streak
18/04 3.24 miles
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Just a quick post. Getting ready to leave town. Studying for a certification test. Trying to keep working out even if it is on the treadmill.
April 2....5.28 miles (Monon trail)
April 4....5.34 miles (Monon trail)
April 6....2.25 miles (treadmill)
April 7...2.36 miles (treadmill)
April 8...2.65 miles (treadmill)
April 9...6.33 miles (Monon trail)
April 11...2.38 (treadmill)
April 13...6.04 miles (Monon trail)
April 16...2.46 miles (treadmill)
April 17...2.4 miles (treadmill)
Total....37.49
Goal....50 miles
Good luck to anyone racing this weekend. Will try to catch up on posts over the weekend.6 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
Hmm. I wonder how much of the "being male" prong is because most women won't have the first 3 risk factors? And how much is related to the classic mating call, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
Definitely!
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MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
Hmm. I wonder how much of the "being male" prong is because most women won't have the first 3 risk factors? And how much is related to the classic mating call, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
Oh, I totally assume that number 4 lis directly tied to an increased risk of numbers 2 and 3. The pet owner factor seems a little more evenly split.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
HAH!
I'm not saying anything about anyone's judgment, just noticed that 20 of 22 snake-bite deaths in the last decade were men. And one of the remaining two was an infant.
Oh, I have no doubt that men are more aggressive when dealing with snakes and therefore more likely to get bit, in general. I mean there are always exceptions, but really, it is no surprise.
Not a surprise at all - I was being a little cheeky in both of my earlier posts in case it didn't come across.
I'm just surprised that half the list isn't teenage boys. I actually didn't see any teenagers on there. 0 -
Happy birthday @kgirlhart!
Well I got out again this morning. Was thinking 6-8k. Did 10 again... But more on the flat today so much easier. I was mostly aiming for an hour of activity and walking is boring
So that brings my total to 98ks, still 2 days left this week, so as long as I get 10k done before Monday I'm fine. I'll hit my goal of I do 5k every day for the rest of the month, and that should be easy given I usually do 6-7k on week days and a longer run on Weekends.4 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Welcome to the group @heracaniac ! Love your 10k race goal!
I should actually be there this year too, MCM will be my 1st full marathon, provided I get there w/out injuring myself, lol
Thanks! It’s a beautiful route!!
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@kgirlhart - Happy Birthday. I really liked ur post on running 5 miles for 50yrs
Snakes freak me. It’s probably because we don’t have them here. Lots of people do as pets though so it’s only a matter of time1 -
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Happy birthday @kgirlhart - I feel the same about now being in my 50s.
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
04/01/19 :::: 3.8 :::: 3.8
04/02/19 :::: 2.7 :::: 6.5
04/03/19 :::: 1.6 :::: 8.1
04/04/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 8.1
04/05/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 8.1
04/06/19 :::: 5.7 :::: 13.8
04/07/19 :::: 5.0 :::: 18.8
04/08/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 18.8
04/09/19 :::: 3.4 :::: 22.2
04/10/19 :::: 3.3 :::: 25.5
04/11/19 :::: 4.1 :::: 29.6
04/12/19 :::: 3.6 :::: 33.2
04/13/19 :::: 5.5 :::: 38.6
04/14/19 :::: 5.3 :::: 44.0
04/15/19 :::: 4.4 :::: 48.3
04/16/19 :::: 2.0 :::: 50.3
04/17/19 :::: 4.5 :::: 54.9
04/18/19 :::: 1.8 :::: 56.7
Another really short warm-up run before circuit training. I had planned to take today as a rest day from running but still needed to do a little warm-up so I'm counting it as a run. Then the workout was legs and core - lots of squats and lunges and planks and the dreaded dead bug hold.
Then tonight I made the trek over to this "Ninja Barracks" gym that has a bunch of obstacles you can try out. I mainly wanted to go to try rope climbing and this was pretty much my last chance before the upcoming Spartan race (in just over a week!) as they hold open gym for adults only on Thursday nights at this time. The guy who owns it was super nice and so encouraging and friendly. And also crazy ridiculously fit and acrobatic. There were probably about 10 people there trying out different things and he helped and coached a bit, and just let you try. And...I successfully climbed that freaking rope! It took me a few tries to figure out how to use my feet and then I got it. I can't even believe I did it. I have never done that in my life and really didn't think I could. So awesome! Less awesome is the amount of rope burn I got in the process - particularly from going back down. Ouch. Lesson learned that pants or at least long socks are called for in rope climbing.
So maybe this is 30 fewer burpees I have to do next Saturday!
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Some important Easter information for runners:
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ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Some important Easter information for runners:
Those are candy eggs right?1 -
Happy Birthday @kgirlhart
Actually I think the 6th decade is the best! You can retire and run whenever/where ever you want!!Happy Birthday @kgirlhart. The 5th decade is the best!
@Elise4270 surely you have had Cadbury Eggs before? I wish they made the in dark chocolate as these are too sweet for my tastes but look like a real egg, yolk and all inside!
Been trying to get some runs in on the road. Hasn't been consistent but I have gotten some runs in. Hoping to get one more in before we head home. Maybe in Flagstaff but we have long driving and busy days ahead.
Today I set out to run one of the many Santa Fe trails - The Rails to Trails section in particular but got a bit lost initially and took some wrong turns. Finally found the right trail and ran a bit of it including a couple of hill repeats in one particularly steep section. I wanted 6 miles but we only got in the 4.7 but I figure it is better than nothing. I was also seriously winded on this run and couldn't figure out why until DH mentioned that Santa Fe is over 7000 foot elevation and I am used to running at, well, sea level... It didn't even occur to me it could be the issue. Also Hobbes wanted to run fast and finally I got angry with him because it was killing me and he wouldn't slow down and run with me. I think I hurt his feelings because he has been super clingy ever since ☹️Date........Miles.......Total
04/01......4.72........4.72 + Agility
04/02......0.00........4.72 + Strength Training
04/03......5.45......10.17 + Sport Dog
04/04......0.00......10.17
04/05......5.67......15.84 - with Drills and Strides
04/06......8.64......24.48 - 2mile wu, 4 miles tempo w/90sec rest, 2mile cd
04/07......3.50......27.98
04/08......4.75......32.73 + Agility
04/09......0.00......32.73 + Strength Training
04/10......6.67......39.40 + Sport Dog
04/11......0.00......39.40 + Strength Training
04/12......0.00......39.40 - Agility Trial
04/13......9.71......49.11
04/14......0.00......49.11 - On the road
04/15......3.76......54.87 - Tucson run
04/16......0.00......54.87
04/17......2.35......57.22 - Los Alamos
04/18......4.71......61.93 - Santa Fe Rails to Trails run
02/03/19 - Surf City Half Marathon Deferred to 2020
05/11/19 - Santa Barbara Wine Country HM
09/15/19 - Jack and Jill Downhill HM - Boise
11/23/19 - USA Women's HM (lottery)
02/02/20 - Surf City Half Marathon8 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Some important Easter information for runners:
Those are candy eggs right?
They’re Cadbury creme eggs - a chocolate shell (about 2.5 inches high) filled with thick syrupy sugar (like icing/frosting but not buttercream). They used to be super yummy but the recipe changed a few years back and now they’re sweet, sweet, sweet. Suits me.4 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Some important Easter information for runners:
Those are candy eggs right?
They’re Cadbury creme eggs - a chocolate shell (about 2.5 inches high) filled with thick syrupy sugar (like icing/frosting but not buttercream). They used to be super yummy but the recipe changed a few years back and now they’re sweet, sweet, sweet. Suits me.
This. I ABSOLUTELY loved creme eggs, but now they are awful - an example of a company selling out for profit over taste. I actually never buy Cadbury anymore. We have a local brand called whittakers, which is silky, smooth,creamy without being too sweet.
I had to point out that I only earned 5.5 creme eggs this morning, im short so only burned 645 calories doing 10k haha2 -
So pleased with a 9 mile jog in 2 hours this morning. This is the furthest I have gone! I set out with the aim of saying out for 2hours rather than a distance. It’s a glorious morning here and as it’s s bank holiday town was quiet early on so I went through town. I live in a beautiful city and it was lovely to see it in the sunshine this morning. This has given me a lot more confidence for the upcoming half. Have a great day everyone.
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I don't like the creme eggs, but I'll take my share in the caramel ones. I would love dark chocolate ones @shanaber!
Great job this morning @samthepanda! A two-hour run is fantastic and means you are ready for that half!5 -
Date...........Run.......Walk
04/01........00M.......1.0M
04/02........07M.......0.0M
04/03........11M.......3.5M
04/04........00M.......3.5M
04/05........10M.......1.5M
04/06........17M.......0.0M
04/07........00M.......4.8M
04/08........00M.......2.0M
04/09........08M.......0.0M
04/10........08M.......0.0M
04/11........13M.......0.0M
04/12........00M.......0.0M*traveling*
04/13........00M.......0.0M*traveling*
04/14........00M.......0.0M*traveling*
04/15........09M.......0.0M
04/16........10M.......0.0M
04/17........00M.......0.0M
04/18........11M.......0.0M
---MTD: 16.3 miles walking, 104 miles running, and 0KM resting
Upcoming Races
Steel Challange 5k - May 2019
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 2019
Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Race - May 2019
Hell Have No Hurry - June 2019 - Maybe
202? - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
2019 GOAL: Knock a full hour off my 50k time at Glacier Ridge.4 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Some important Easter information for runners:
Those are candy eggs right?
They’re Cadbury creme eggs - a chocolate shell (about 2.5 inches high) filled with thick syrupy sugar (like icing/frosting but not buttercream). They used to be super yummy but the recipe changed a few years back and now they’re sweet, sweet, sweet. Suits me.
This. I ABSOLUTELY loved creme eggs, but now they are awful - an example of a company selling out for profit over taste. I actually never buy Cadbury anymore. We have a local brand called whittakers, which is silky, smooth,creamy without being too sweet.
I had to point out that I only earned 5.5 creme eggs this morning, im short so only burned 645 calories doing 10k haha
I have not had one in probably a decade or more... so I guess I have no idea what they taste like now.2 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
I did not read the article, but was told by the instructor for this course that bites are often young males and typically hand or arm... because of obvious reasons. Leave the snake alone.2 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@PastorVincent It looks like a garter snake.
The house I grew up in had a nest full of them under an old stump, so they were everywhere in our yard as a kid. They were a little bit different, probably a different sub-species in Iowa, but still harmless.
That was my first thought, but I really do not know my snakes.
Me neither... but I know the 4 types of venomous snakes in North America. I figure that is the more important thing. When I got my Wilderness First Responder certification, I learned how to treat bites from those snakes. And 3 of the 4 types are treated the same way while the 4th is not a very common bite (because the snakes are so reclusive).
I was curious about the other three types as I could only think of rattlers, and found this article on recent fatal snakebites in the US. From a quick skim, it looks like the biggest risk factors for death-by-snakebite are 1) owning lots of venomous snakes, 2) trying to handle/kill a venomous snake, 3) not seeking medical attention after being bit by a venomous snake, and 4) being male.
HAH!
I'm not saying anything about anyone's judgment, just noticed that 20 of 22 snake-bite deaths in the last decade were men. And one of the remaining two was an infant.
Oh, I have no doubt that men are more aggressive when dealing with snakes and therefore more likely to get bit, in general. I mean there are always exceptions, but really, it is no surprise.
Not a surprise at all - I was being a little cheeky in both of my earlier posts in case it didn't come across. I'm just surprised that half the list isn't teenage boys. I actually didn't see any teenagers on there.
Most snake bites do not normally kill, but a smaller size (infants) definitely increases risk. Think about it this way: snakes deliver venom to kill prey (rodent-sized / rabbits). People are much bigger, so it should take much more venom to kill.1 -
@shanaber Poor Hobbes does look a little put out. Bless his heart. Elevation can definitely make a huge difference. So, count that run as a win. Looks like a beautiful place to run.
@katharmonic Great job with the rope climb! I don't think I could ever to that. I have zero upper body strength. Not sure why, but I never have. Even as a kid.0 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Some important Easter information for runners:
Those are candy eggs right?
They’re Cadbury creme eggs - a chocolate shell (about 2.5 inches high) filled with thick syrupy sugar (like icing/frosting but not buttercream). They used to be super yummy but the recipe changed a few years back and now they’re sweet, sweet, sweet. Suits me.
I didn't realize for a long time that there were different recipes used for the candies in the US vs Europe or well everywhere else (European version for the most part so much better!). I think the manufacturers always figured we Americans just wanted syrupy sweet candies. Maybe they took the US recipe and used it over there too? I was able to get a dark chocolate KitKat bar in Montreal and have never seen it in the US. Probably just as well because I won't eat the milk chocolate ones we have here.
ETA - this is also true for sodas like Coke and Pepsi. I don't drink them any more but I rememberer my daughter wanting to bring coke back from Mexico because 'it tasted so much better'3
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