contract marriage?

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  • 12skipafew99100
    12skipafew99100 Posts: 1,669 Member
    In my opinion and experience, marriage is a sacred union of two people, who are in love, brought together and blessed by GOD, to live together as one. Actually a Christian marriage is a marriage of three, you, your spouce and God. And before you poo poo the Christian part, yes marriage is God's plan and invention. Look it up in the Holy Bible.

    And what you are supposing is cold and illegal.

    It mocks all who put 100% into their relationship, and God's plan for a man and woman to live in HOLY Matrimony..

    Just my two cents. You asked. :smile: Happily married for 25 years, next month.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    In my opinion and experience, marriage is a sacred union of two people, who are in love, brought together and blessed by GOD, to live together as one. Actually a Christian marriage is a marriage of three, you, your spouce and God. And before you poo poo the Christian part, yes marriage is God's plan and invention. Look it up in the Holy Bible.
    Lol, as long as it's a marriage of a man and woman. And you're assuming that everyone believes the bible. There are other books of faith.
    And what you are supposing is cold and illegal.
    How so? Have you ever heard of arranged marriages for benefits?
    It mocks all who put 100% into their relationship, and God's plan for a man and woman to live in HOLY Matrimony..
    Well, it mocks what YOU believe. Others not so much.

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  • JM109
    JM109 Posts: 16
    No.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    No.


    NO.


    NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    1. marriage is.........not that
    2. that's insurance fraud
    3. I'm only getting married once.
    4. Divorce is more expensive than dental work.
    I'm just gonna have to quote this.
  • hailzp
    hailzp Posts: 903 Member
    Absolutely.
  • Nikki31104
    Nikki31104 Posts: 816 Member
    I am sure I will get a lot of BS for this post but here it goes anyway. I will never get married. Not for love (which I do have) or for insurance benefits. Getting married is just a piece of paper to prove to everyone else that you love each other. Why do you have to prove to anyone how you feel about someone else. If the person you are with knows you love them then that is all that matters. And a piece of paper isn't going to prove to me that my man loves me.
    As far as the OP's original question. If these two people are comfortable getting married for those reasons then why the hell shouldn't they. It is their life. Not ours. If it makes them happy who are we to care. Getting married for reasons other than love are not fraud unless one of you are from a different country. My brother is married to a woman from Romania and my cousin is married to her sister. Immigration was all over them for years to make sure their marriages weren't frauds but my dad married a back stabbing b!tch and no one ever blinked twice about it.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    I am sure I will get a lot of BS for this post but here it goes anyway. I will never get married. Not for love (which I do have) or for insurance benefits. Getting married is just a piece of paper to prove to everyone else that you love each other. Why do you have to prove to anyone how you feel about someone else. If the person you are with knows you love them then that is all that matters. And a piece of paper isn't going to prove to me that my man loves me.
    I will never get married either. I refuse to give the state & legal system the power to decide when I can and can't consider myself out of a relationship. I refuse to put myself in the position where I would have to pay lawyers a small fortune and explain to the law why I would like to be excused now.
  • Ocarina
    Ocarina Posts: 1,550 Member
    Wrong wrong wrong. It's an abuse of a government benefit/tax break and as such should be illegal. Otherwise what's the point in the whole thing?

    Plus, you're doing nothing but wasting your time for instant benefits now and lots of regret and heart ache later. Good luck wih that. :flowerforyou:
  • thefragile7393
    thefragile7393 Posts: 102 Member
    does not appeal to me....I couldn't be just platonic.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Or worse, staying together "for the children". THAT should carry a fine and a jail sentence.

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  • saxmaniac
    saxmaniac Posts: 1,133 Member
    If you found yourself in an unfortunate situation, would you contract marry someone?

    Would I do it? No.

    I don't see why it's illegal, though. I'm no lawyer, but AFAIK there's no legal requirement for love or sex to be a part of marriage. It's just a "domestic partnership" nowadays.

    If people follow the laws then you can marry whoever the hell you want. I'm from MA, we pioneered this stuff!
  • iLoveMyPitbull1225
    iLoveMyPitbull1225 Posts: 1,690 Member
    Absolutely not. That is fraud...Not to mention not the meaning of marriage.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    If you found yourself in an unfortunate situation, would you contract marry someone?

    Would I do it? No.

    I don't see why it's illegal, though. I'm no lawyer, but AFAIK there's no legal requirement for love or sex to be a part of marriage. It's just a "domestic partnership" nowadays.

    If people follow the laws then you can marry whoever the hell you want. I'm from MA, we pioneered this stuff!

    Sex is actually a part of the marriage contract. You can get a marriage anulled if your spouse can't give you babies or is unable to perform le sexy time.

    The meaning of marriage has already been butchered by many people. It only matters if it matters to you.
  • jetlag
    jetlag Posts: 800 Member
    I'm failing to see how this is much different than people who marry because they got pregnant.

    Or stay together because they "can't afford to divorce".

    Or people who fight constantly and hate each other but "don't want to divorce".

    Or people who marry, but choose to live in separete cities/states/countries because of a job or schooling.

    Or couples who are "actively" married but don't have sex.

    Or a couple that's been together for many many years without the legally binding part... then choose to get married when one of them develops, for example, cancer, because they need the marriage blessing for insurance purposes.

    The main difference, as far as I can tell, is a well thought out agreement and how to handle various situations, which most people don't think about when they decide to tie the knot.
    For that fact of the matter, what is the difference between a good contract marriage and a solid pre-nup?

    Because, in the US, marrying for health insurance is ILLEGAL.(I learned that on Greys Anatomy, so it must be true).
  • Juliejustsaying
    Juliejustsaying Posts: 2,332 Member
    I'm failing to see how this is much different than people who marry because they got pregnant.

    Or stay together because they "can't afford to divorce".

    Or people who fight constantly and hate each other but "don't want to divorce".

    Or people who marry, but choose to live in separete cities/states/countries because of a job or schooling.

    Or couples who are "actively" married but don't have sex.

    Or a couple that's been together for many many years without the legally binding part... then choose to get married when one of them develops, for example, cancer, because they need the marriage blessing for insurance purposes.

    The main difference, as far as I can tell, is a well thought out agreement and how to handle various situations, which most people don't think about when they decide to tie the knot.
    For that fact of the matter, what is the difference between a good contract marriage and a solid pre-nup?

    Because, in the US, marrying for health insurance is ILLEGAL.(I learned that on Greys Anatomy, so it must be true).

    nope, it isnt. I've said it before...only if immigration status is involved. The government and insurance companies don't give a rats assets if you love your spouse...and frankly the day they do is the day martial law is declared and we start bowing to the new dictator.

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  • latenitelucy
    latenitelucy Posts: 1,314 Member
    I would not but I do see where the OP is coming from and aren't a lot of marriages a fraud? Hello Britney Spears/Kim Kardashian...

    A marriage on paper is essentially a business contract. What you believe a marriage signifies is a personal matter. I could ramble on about this but I will leave it there.
  • JenAndSome
    JenAndSome Posts: 1,893 Member
    I have no desire to ever be married again for any reason so that would be a big NO for me.
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    Yeah why not.
    contract legal reasons are fine. That doesn't disrupt the sanctity of marriage. Good luck! We need more people getting married anyways.
  • Amcolecchi
    Amcolecchi Posts: 260 Member
    This is why we should have Universal Healthcare so no one has to be in this situation and marriage can be for what it really is!
  • HannahJDiaz25
    HannahJDiaz25 Posts: 329 Member
    My husband and I have a contract. He does not say no an I always say yes. Oh an he always buys me wine

    Hmmm...add chocolate to that and I think you guys copied my contract! LOL
  • Monkey_Business
    Monkey_Business Posts: 1,800 Member
    If you found yourself in an unfortunate situation, would you contract marry someone?

    For example, you have a health problem and a friend of yours has fantastic insurance (that also treats old/standing issues). Would you marry them for their insurance if you two agreed - living separate lives as friends only?

    Meaning: you can file taxes together, live in different states, no sex between you two, be in a committed relationship with someone else, vacation separately, workout together, etc. Basically, you'd be completely platonic, but legally married.

    No.......

    My wife would get really p^$$ed....then I would not need the health insurance.
  • jenifr818
    jenifr818 Posts: 805 Member
    If you found yourself in an unfortunate situation, would you contract marry someone?

    For example, you have a health problem and a friend of yours has fantastic insurance (that also treats old/standing issues). Would you marry them for their insurance if you two agreed - living separate lives as friends only?

    Meaning: you can file taxes together, live in different states, no sex between you two, be in a committed relationship with someone else, vacation separately, workout together, etc. Basically, you'd be completely platonic, but legally married.

    No.......

    My wife would get really p^$$ed....then I would not need the health insurance.

    :laugh:
  • 748marie
    748marie Posts: 61 Member
    My husband and I have a contract. He does not say no an I always say yes. Oh an he always buys me wine

    Lol too funny!
  • _TimeForMe
    _TimeForMe Posts: 156 Member
    I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry....worked great for them....:laugh:
  • supertracylynn
    supertracylynn Posts: 1,338 Member
    I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry....worked great for them....:laugh:

    "Scissor me timbers, Baby!" :bigsmile:


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  • toffee322
    toffee322 Posts: 186 Member
    yes why not. benefits for both parties! u don't even have to tell ppl you are "married" !! lol
  • gogoboobzilla
    gogoboobzilla Posts: 91 Member
    I feel like a lot of peoples morals and ideals and maybe even religious beliefs are coming into play here.
    So the government gives perks to two people who get married. Why? Because they love each other? Why should the government care?
    If you choose to marry (partner up with someone for government perks) that's on you. You better trust the person you choose, but I wouldn't think any less of someone for it.
    Yes, it's fraud. Don't get caught. Just because something is illegal doesn't necessarily make it morally wrong.

    How is it fraud? You entered into a legal contract with another person. There's no 'love, honor, and obey' that *has* to be part of a marriage ceremony, and really, so long as you pass the blood test and the person isn't your first cousin (not applicable in some states) the people handing out the license couldn't probably care less about how you conduct your affairs afterward.

    I'd say it's fraud because of the way marriage is currently understood in the United States. When I got married at the City Clerks office, pretty much the most clinical way possible, we were expected to hold hands and there was a speech about all of the "love, honor, obey" stuff as part of the official ceremony. Even if you or I believe it should be a legal contract, that's not how the general populace sees it, or even the government. If it were a legal contract, ther'd be no reason to exclude men. But as it stands, it's based in Christianity.

    City officials made you promise to obey!! That's BS! Were you married in a southern state?

    No, actually. Detroit city clerks office, the authority for Wayne County, Michigan.
  • pennelope515
    pennelope515 Posts: 369
    NO!

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