I'm craving a whopper talk me out of it.
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Get a low carb option without ketchup and toss the hamburger bun out to the birds (I do this myself). I love Whoopers too...there is nothing like a flamed grilled burger from BK!3
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sounds like we need the drama llama y'all!
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
The mayo is why I never liked Whoppers. Mayo does not belong on burgers, ugh.
Agreed. Now that I'm in Virginia, all the burger places put mayo on burgers as a default. It's one of the reasons I prefer Wendy's, they don't give me a dirty look when I ask for "no mayo".3 -
I used to work at BK, don't do it!3
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Did you end up getting the whopper?
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
The mayo is why I never liked Whoppers. Mayo does not belong on burgers, ugh.
Agreed. Now that I'm in Virginia, all the burger places put mayo on burgers as a default. It's one of the reasons I prefer Wendy's, they don't give me a dirty look when I ask for "no mayo".
Mustard used to be my condiment of choice for burgers. Now I like a bit of both, but when either is squishing out the side of the bun when I take a bite, it's overkill.0 -
So this thread turned into quite the soap opera huh3
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Now it's turning into a condiment conversation, so all is good.1
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
The mayo is why I never liked Whoppers. Mayo does not belong on burgers, ugh.
Agreed. Now that I'm in Virginia, all the burger places put mayo on burgers as a default. It's one of the reasons I prefer Wendy's, they don't give me a dirty look when I ask for "no mayo".
Mustard used to be my condiment of choice for burgers. Now I like a bit of both, but when either is squishing out the side of the bun when I take a bite, it's overkill.
I spent the first 31 years of my life hating mustard, got some on a burger by accident a few months back and BAM THAT STUFF IS DELICIOUS! Now it is my go-to for flavor without a bunch of empty calories on a lot of foods. Makes my turkey meatloaf a zinger.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
Yeah, I just usually ask them to leave it off altogether if I remember. Not for the calories, but because I'm not a big fan of mayo to begin with. A thin scraping on a BLT or chicken or turkey sandwich, or a minimal amount to hold together a "salad"-style (tuna, egg, chicken, etc.) sandwich filling, and that's about all the use I have for mayo. I buy the smallest jar I can find and usually end up throwing it out after a year or two barely half-used. (Don't judge. Commercial mayo keeps a long time if you don't double dip, i.e., don't stick a used spoon or knife back into it. When I was a kid, we didn't even keep our mayo in the refrigerator, and none of us died. The only reasons I keep it in the refrigerator now is I have more fridge space than pantry space and cold mayo is marginally less disgusting than room temperature mayo.)3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....
At least Five Guys actually tastes good
But even if you're not worried about calories or carbs, you may as well toss the bun, because it turns into a soggy mess by the first bite even if you order your burger without sauces of any kind. Personally, I prefer their hotdogs.1 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
Yeah, I just usually ask them to leave it off altogether if I remember. Not for the calories, but because I'm not a big fan of mayo to begin with. A thin scraping on a BLT or chicken or turkey sandwich, or a minimal amount to hold together a "salad"-style (tuna, egg, chicken, etc.) sandwich filling, and that's about all the use I have for mayo. I buy the smallest jar I can find and usually end up throwing it out after a year or two barely half-used. (Don't judge. Commercial mayo keeps a long time if you don't double dip, i.e., don't stick a used spoon or knife back into it. When I was a kid, we didn't even keep our mayo in the refrigerator, and none of us died. The only reasons I keep it in the refrigerator now is I have more fridge space than pantry space and cold mayo is marginally less disgusting than room temperature mayo.)
These containers are awesome! No mess, no contamination, and it's easy to get just a little bit. I tend to agree with you - less is more when it comes to mayo.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....
At least Five Guys actually tastes good
But even if you're not worried about calories or carbs, you may as well toss the bun, because it turns into a soggy mess by the first bite even if you order your burger without sauces of any kind. Personally, I prefer their hotdogs.
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You could always get it, cut it in half and immediately throw the other half away, and satisfy your craving for under 400 calories...1
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floofyschmoofer wrote: »I spent the first 31 years of my life hating mustard, got some on a burger by accident a few months back and BAM THAT STUFF IS DELICIOUS! Now it is my go-to for flavor without a bunch of empty calories on a lot of foods. Makes my turkey meatloaf a zinger.
I'm not a big fan of any kind of mustard usually, especially Dijon, but Walmart has a dill mustard that is fantastic!0 -
I love mustard.
Will recommend: https://mustardmuseum.com/
Stopped there once coming back from Spring Green: https://americanplayers.org/. Wish it was closer, but I suppose I need an excuse to go to Wisconsin for a road trip.
I hated mustard as a kid (I hated all condiments and when we did the occasional fast food would get my hamburger plain with nothing on it except the bun). I learned to like it with spicy brown mustards and dijon, but now like the plain yellow stuff too, although I tend to have a variety of the others at home to use.1 -
I'd just go for a run to earn the calories and then eat the whopper...3
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floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
If you need to treat food decisions like choice of college, buying a house or a car, I think you've wandered into the unmanageable side of dieting.
That an extra workout could balance is why - a small dietary indiscretion matters little in the long term compared to just having a relationship where you can keep them under control. Try as I might, I can workout or wait long enough to force that stupid Bluetooth package in my car to work with music and not just for hands free calls that I never make.5 -
What I hate is when the bun and the burger start slipping away from each other. Hate that.1
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mdmess2013 wrote: »You could always get it, cut it in half and immediately throw the other half away, and satisfy your craving for under 400 calories...
That’s not cute.
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magnusthenerd wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
If you need to treat food decisions like choice of college, buying a house or a car, I think you've wandered into the unmanageable side of dieting.
That an extra workout could balance is why - a small dietary indiscretion matters little in the long term compared to just having a relationship where you can keep them under control. Try as I might, I can workout or wait long enough to force that stupid Bluetooth package in my car to work with music and not just for hands free calls that I never make.
...Because giving a little extra consideration to a 700+ calorie meal that you're stressed enough over to make an entire post is somehow comparable to choosing a mortgage.
OP said talk them out of it. That was my attempt.
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floofyschmoofer wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
If you need to treat food decisions like choice of college, buying a house or a car, I think you've wandered into the unmanageable side of dieting.
That an extra workout could balance is why - a small dietary indiscretion matters little in the long term compared to just having a relationship where you can keep them under control. Try as I might, I can workout or wait long enough to force that stupid Bluetooth package in my car to work with music and not just for hands free calls that I never make.
...Because giving a little extra consideration to a 700+ calorie meal that you're stressed enough over to make an entire post is somehow comparable to choosing a mortgage.
OP said talk them out of it. That was my attempt.
I appreciate it.1 -
Now it's turning into a condiment conversation, so all is good.
Honestly, the SAD condiment vocabulary is discouraging (though I do have a soft spot in my heart for those hottest (is it "Diablo"? I forget) packets at Taco Bell with the snarky subtitles).
I lummesome ketchup, various mustard, salsa and pico de gallo . . . but tsatziki, gochujang chile sauce, peanut sauces, tahini, and more: So many condiments, such a short gustatory life!7 -
Now it's turning into a condiment conversation, so all is good.
Honestly, the SAD condiment vocabulary is discouraging (though I do have a soft spot in my heart for those hottest (is it "Diablo"? I forget) packets at Taco Bell with the snarky subtitles).
I lummesome ketchup, various mustard, salsa and pico de gallo . . . but tsatziki, gochujang chile sauce, peanut sauces, tahini, and more: So many condiments, such a short gustatory life!
Agreed, but mustard in and of itself has so many varieties.
I read a fun article a while back about why fancy ketchup has never caught on (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/09/06/the-ketchup-conundrum).
Also salsa and even sriracha kicking ketchup's kitten: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/actually-salsa-dethroned-ketchup-20-years-ago/309844/.
I agree about the varieties, though, although for a burger my main alternative preference is just giardiniera (which is also the best alternative option on a turkey sandwich -- Potbelly's with pickle, tomato, lettuce, onion and peppers on the side). Impulse buying spicy sauces is a temptation of mine, and tahini has many uses.2 -
FML.... work is bringing in pizza today for a mandatory meeting. I brought chicken, asparagus and roasted bell peppers thinking id get a nice under 330 lunch in but now I'll have no choice to add a square of pizza or two probably at no less than 180 a slice for those thin cut squares right?2
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Now it's turning into a condiment conversation, so all is good.
Honestly, the SAD condiment vocabulary is discouraging (though I do have a soft spot in my heart for those hottest (is it "Diablo"? I forget) packets at Taco Bell with the snarky subtitles).
I lummesome ketchup, various mustard, salsa and pico de gallo . . . but tsatziki, gochujang chile sauce, peanut sauces, tahini, and more: So many condiments, such a short gustatory life!
Most BBQ log at 70 cals for 2 tablespoons.. seems less when weighed in grams.
I use yogurt dressings or salsas for low cal options.0 -
FML.... work is bringing in pizza today for a mandatory meeting. I brought chicken, asparagus and roasted bell peppers thinking id get a nice under 330 lunch in but now I'll have no choice to add a square of pizza or two probably at no less than 180 a slice for those thin cut squares right?
Why would you have no choice? Just say "Thank you, but I'll eat the lunch I already brought. More for the rest of you!"
I've sat at the conference table at work and ate (and enjoyed) a salad whole everyone else has pizza before. Other days I eat the pizza. Depends on my goals and mood for the day.5 -
I realize that I am a couple of days late to this, but just eat the Whopper. Or get a Whopper Jr. Life is too short. In my experience deprivation leads to binging, so personally I would have the Whopper and then just move forward.2
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floofyschmoofer wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
If you need to treat food decisions like choice of college, buying a house or a car, I think you've wandered into the unmanageable side of dieting.
That an extra workout could balance is why - a small dietary indiscretion matters little in the long term compared to just having a relationship where you can keep them under control. Try as I might, I can workout or wait long enough to force that stupid Bluetooth package in my car to work with music and not just for hands free calls that I never make.
...Because giving a little extra consideration to a 700+ calorie meal that you're stressed enough over to make an entire post is somehow comparable to choosing a mortgage.
OP said talk them out of it. That was my attempt.
Needing to sleep on it is where I draw a comparison to buying a house or car. I don't consider sleeping on something a little extra consideration, would you say sleeping on a house purchase is just a little extra consideration? If so, we're agree on the values, but just have different semantics.
I think ultimately a person will need to learn to make decisions about food faster than that. Call it dietary paralysis of analysis. The feeling that one needs rigid behaviors and ways to justify or not justify 700 calories at a particular time are far more likely to sink dietary success than a particular 700 calories, or even just one day in a lifetime eating a 10,000 calorie challenge.
Though your final comment might elucidate us at cross purposes. You're trying to talk OP out of the food. I'm suggesting based on having a goal of learning how to eat long term.4
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