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Wondered Where People Get Some of These Ideas?
AnnPT77
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If you've been wondering where some popular nutritional ideas come from, take a look at this magazine (only $2.99) that was on the stand at my supermarket checkout recently.
"Lose 2 Pounds a Day! Keto Thyroid Cure: 10 Days of Alkalyzing Foods Does It! Dr. Anna Cabeca LOST 80 POUNDS on the diet she herself developed! Mina, 50, Lost 175 Pounds * cured her thyroid disease * reversed her diabetes".
Debate? Just SMH, mostly. I know, I shouldn't judge without trying it, or at least reading it, but I can't even. I am curious about the "frozen pea" trick, though.
"Lose 2 Pounds a Day! Keto Thyroid Cure: 10 Days of Alkalyzing Foods Does It! Dr. Anna Cabeca LOST 80 POUNDS on the diet she herself developed! Mina, 50, Lost 175 Pounds * cured her thyroid disease * reversed her diabetes".
Debate? Just SMH, mostly. I know, I shouldn't judge without trying it, or at least reading it, but I can't even. I am curious about the "frozen pea" trick, though.
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I see something about summer treats up there in the corner. That's more my speed
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"There's a sucker born every minute." - often attributed to P.T. Barnum. True, regardless of who coined the phrase.10
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I cringe every time I reach the checkout these days! If it's not "Lose 45lbs in 30 days!!!" or "Drop three dress sizes for summer!!" it's "<random celebrity> in shocking affair!!" or "<older random celebrity caught without makeup> on deathbed!!".
Some of that weight loss stuff that gets pushed, though... it's no wonder people are as confused as heck and stuffed full of woo by the time they get to MFP.
(Edit: Plus, most of these magazines aimed at women seem to have weight loss "advice" on their front covers every issue. I imagine even slim women must find that annoying, and I'm sure there must be plenty of women who are actually happy with their size (whatever it may be) and don't need the constant inference that they ought to be unhappy with something and want to change it.)16 -
I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
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I'm sure it's got an article about a 98 year old woman giving birth to triplet alien babies, too. 😬10
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It's also all over social media ads too. All my Facebook ads are "lose weight fast with keto" ads3
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I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
But what if a man happens to want a nice butt? Does he have to buy the women's issue instead?
(And why is belly fat always "blasted" and calories "torched"? Do editors just like the sound of these phrases or something?)11 -
I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
But what if a man happens to want a nice butt? Does he have to buy the women's issue instead?
(And why is belly fat always "blasted" and calories "torched"? Do editors just like the sound of these phrases or something?)
Wait... what? These mags have editors??? 😨13 -
I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
Yep, they're out to make some coin; there's no doubt about it.
Just like so many of the bodybuilding mags are all about selling supplements with roided-out & genetically gifted cover models. (with apologies to Jay Cutler.)
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I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
It's weird, but it sells more than a gender-neutral product would.4 -
I just try to avoid even looking at that stuff because there’s that little voice in my head which is saying, “awesome, this will work for me! It will be as easy as buying this magazine!”
Haha.... not😢9 -
Appealing to vanity does wonders for the bottom line.
I used to buy Men's Health and one or two others back in the pre-internet days and they were pretty decent sources of information. I picked one up a couple of years ago just for something to read not screen based and it seemed every other page, or every page in some sections, had a fitness model with this hygiene product or that supplement. Very little in the way of actual fitness related information.
Last weekend my wife and I were cleaning out the basement and found a DVD my youngest had purchased a few years back. It had a slim, muscular woman on the front with that "You can look like this" tag. Heh - she's already strong and beautiful.
It's easy to see where the ideas come from. Women and men of all ages and body types, even mindsets are massively targeted, and it's working. Shareholders portfolios have never been healthier lol.
I would love to see a day when everyone interested suddenly realized their own intrinsic worth without feeling they have to look like this fitness model or that ripped and shredded person. Get that down and start from there. I imagine it would be very refreshing.7 -
There's a new product being touted on TV recently that makes me want to stab my eyeballs. The commercials are absolutely awful. "You don't need to count calories! You don't need to exercise! Just take our fat burning product and watch the inches just MELT off!! If you start to lose TOO MUCH weight, just lower the dosage."
This is really interesting:
https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1360-5-shocking-realities-behind-ads-weight-loss-products.html5 -
mom23mangos wrote: »There's a new product being touted on TV recently that makes me want to stab my eyeballs. The commercials are absolutely awful. "You don't need to count calories! You don't need to exercise! Just take our fat burning product and watch the inches just MELT off!! If you start to lose TOO MUCH weight, just lower the dosage."
This is really interesting:
https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1360-5-shocking-realities-behind-ads-weight-loss-products.html
That cracked piece, a friend of mine modeled for a while before she 'cracked' and got out of it. Think Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman, but just shy of that lean. She was passed over numerous times for being overweight and soft looking.
Insanity
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This is why I'm glad you're my friendAppealing to vanity does wonders for the bottom line.
I used to buy Men's Health and one or two others back in the pre-internet days and they were pretty decent sources of information. I picked one up a couple of years ago just for something to read not screen based and it seemed every other page, or every page in some sections, had a fitness model with this hygiene product or that supplement. Very little in the way of actual fitness related information.
Last weekend my wife and I were cleaning out the basement and found a DVD my youngest had purchased a few years back. It had a slim, muscular woman on the front with that "You can look like this" tag. Heh - she's already strong and beautiful.
It's easy to see where the ideas come from. Women and men of all ages and body types, even mindsets are massively targeted, and it's working. Shareholders portfolios have never been healthier lol.
I would love to see a day when everyone interested suddenly realized their own intrinsic worth without feeling they have to look like this fitness model or that ripped and shredded person. Get that down and start from there. I imagine it would be very refreshing.
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This is why I'm glad you're my friendAppealing to vanity does wonders for the bottom line.
I used to buy Men's Health and one or two others back in the pre-internet days and they were pretty decent sources of information. I picked one up a couple of years ago just for something to read not screen based and it seemed every other page, or every page in some sections, had a fitness model with this hygiene product or that supplement. Very little in the way of actual fitness related information.
Last weekend my wife and I were cleaning out the basement and found a DVD my youngest had purchased a few years back. It had a slim, muscular woman on the front with that "You can look like this" tag. Heh - she's already strong and beautiful.
It's easy to see where the ideas come from. Women and men of all ages and body types, even mindsets are massively targeted, and it's working. Shareholders portfolios have never been healthier lol.
I would love to see a day when everyone interested suddenly realized their own intrinsic worth without feeling they have to look like this fitness model or that ripped and shredded person. Get that down and start from there. I imagine it would be very refreshing.
Back at you *hug* 1 -
I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
These are so archaic. Completely failing to recognize the other 67 genders.21 -
I want to know why men can lose their gut in 10 minutes a day but it takes women 15 minutes a day to blast their belly fat. 12
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Appealing to vanity does wonders for the bottom line.
I used to buy Men's Health and one or two others back in the pre-internet days and they were pretty decent sources of information. I picked one up a couple of years ago just for something to read not screen based and it seemed every other page, or every page in some sections, had a fitness model with this hygiene product or that supplement. Very little in the way of actual fitness related information.
Last weekend my wife and I were cleaning out the basement and found a DVD my youngest had purchased a few years back. It had a slim, muscular woman on the front with that "You can look like this" tag. Heh - she's already strong and beautiful.
It's easy to see where the ideas come from. Women and men of all ages and body types, even mindsets are massively targeted, and it's working. Shareholders portfolios have never been healthier lol.
I would love to see a day when everyone interested suddenly realized their own intrinsic worth without feeling they have to look like this fitness model or that ripped and shredded person. Get that down and start from there. I imagine it would be very refreshing.
Doing so would require individuals to reject narcissism, greed, and envy. This would collapse the establishment in multiple industries.
Bring it on.11 -
Appealing to vanity does wonders for the bottom line.
I used to buy Men's Health and one or two others back in the pre-internet days and they were pretty decent sources of information. I picked one up a couple of years ago just for something to read not screen based and it seemed every other page, or every page in some sections, had a fitness model with this hygiene product or that supplement. Very little in the way of actual fitness related information.
Last weekend my wife and I were cleaning out the basement and found a DVD my youngest had purchased a few years back. It had a slim, muscular woman on the front with that "You can look like this" tag. Heh - she's already strong and beautiful.
It's easy to see where the ideas come from. Women and men of all ages and body types, even mindsets are massively targeted, and it's working. Shareholders portfolios have never been healthier lol.
I would love to see a day when everyone interested suddenly realized their own intrinsic worth without feeling they have to look like this fitness model or that ripped and shredded person. Get that down and start from there. I imagine it would be very refreshing.
Doing so would require individuals to reject narcissism, greed, and envy. This would collapse the establishment in multiple industries.
Bring it on.
So true. Can you imagine the fallout? I'm not sure anyone would escape it. I consider myself a fairly well balanced yet older and funny looking dude, and I STILL struggle with vanity.
The human condition? Maybe, all we can do is try.4 -
Very interesting thread/topic!
The reality seems to be that as the fitness industry grows, so do people's waistline. I think most fitness people and probably some publishers are well intentioned. But so much of it is about generating revenue and having repeat customers (i.e. people that never lose weight or yo yo diet)0 -
Also I would be so annoyed if I was Lisa Rinna, looking great as a cover model, and they cover her up with Keto WooWoo text. Rude!!7
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Easy sells.. this cover would not sell as well.
EAT MORE VEGGIES9 -
Once a week my mom calls to tell me about something new she is going to try to lose weight from Women's World. 9
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This is why I don't like keto. The marketing for it makes it sound like a woo-ful scam. I can't even walk into the As Seen On TV store at the mall without facing a giant display of keto supplements.
I know, the core program is a totally valid lifestyle etc and people do great on it but I'm SO tired of seeing it everywhere.16 -
I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
These are so archaic. Completely failing to recognize the other 67 genders.
I gave you a woo for that.
How can you not know that it's 68?
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ladyreva78 wrote: »I find it amusing comparing mags from the same publisher but aimed at men vs. women (such as Men's Health and Women's Health).
In the taglines, men usually get "ripped", women "toned". Men get "rock hard abs", women "a flat belly". And so forth.
There was even a set of special issues (photo below) put out by that publisher, one for men and one for women, that were aimed at bodyweight fitness. Inside, based on a flip-through, there were pretty much exactly the same exercises. They just were photographed with models of the appropriate sex. Taglines on the cover slanted very diffently, though.
These are so archaic. Completely failing to recognize the other 67 genders.
I gave you a woo for that.
How can you not know that it's 68?
Hanging my head in shame...I'm so not woke.
If possible I'd woo myself.13
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