Coronavirus prep

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    @corinasue1143 who knows is the question? Sadly science has not been spoken and implemented.

    Personal opinion based on emotionalism is passing as true science. Marches and riots owned the news cycles.

    For weeks we have been talking about face mask usage when we have no peer reviewed science that mask usage is indicated to be helpful, neutral or is harmful in this 2020 Pandemic. I emotionally hope mask usage is helpful when all of the time my left brain is reminding me how today in China with full use of face masks they are still having new lockdowns because of new COVID-19 out breaks. We are running blindfolded with the default leaders being those in the streets getting news media coverage.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Indiana has implemented a mask requirement starting Monday. Non compliance carries the possibility of arrest and a misdemeanor charge. We are also staying at level 4.5 and will hold here based off of numbers. Numbers are increasing and hospital and ICU admissions have also gone up.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    I'd be curious about the statistics of people that wore masks versus didn't wear masks, of the ones who've contracted Covid. I'd imagine it's almost impossible to know.
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    Absolutely. You've hit the nail right on the head.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited July 2020
    Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread. :/

    Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.
  • lokihen
    lokihen Posts: 382 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread. :/

    Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.

    Do you know how long results are taking? Here it's two to over seven days depending on if the tests are sent out of state.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    lokihen wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread. :/

    Just to be clear, this varies a lot by state. Here anyone who wants can get tested, and it's free and there are tons of locations. We are currently testing around 40K per day.

    Do you know how long results are taking? Here it's two to over seven days depending on if the tests are sent out of state.

    In New Mexico anyone who wants to get tested can get tested, symptoms or not, known exposure or not. This was a huge priority for our governor. We have a number of drive up testing sites that are operated by the DOH and by Presbyterian Hospital. Results are typically 1-3 days. Unfortunately, people are having to wait in line for about 4-6 hours to get the test and many people go at night and camp in their cars to get in line. They only have so many tests on hand, so a lot of people at the back of the line end up getting turned away later in the day. They're working to resolve this, but the only way I see that happening is if they only test those who are symptomatic or have had known contact that can be verified...IDK...we'll see.

    You can also get tested at private facilities like our urgent care facilities and our CVS Pharmacy clinics...From what I understand though is that you have to have symptoms to be tested at these facilities. There are no long lines, but testing results are long...they were averaging 6-10 days about a month ago and now it's 15-30. DOH and PH have their own lab capabilities...the private entities have to send their samples out to the labs they contract with and I guess they're pretty overwhelmed as these labs are taking in samples from all over the country, or at least the southwestern region of the US.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    Ok, so disincentives to testing, like cost or difficulty getting there or not meeting 'sick enough' criteria is going to lead to under reporting and obviously to more spread. :/

    There are also such long waits for results in many cases that testing is useless for identifying presymptomatic cases and preventing spread (unless people are quarantining while waiting for results, and you could achieve the same results with a mandatory lockdown -- or even a partial lockdown by lottery -- without testing, and without being any more arbitrary).

    I feel like the only thing large-scale testing is good for in areas that don't have the infrastructure to process results quickly is to collect public health data that can be used to inform decisions about closing or opening businesses, schools, etc., mandating masks, etc.