Coronavirus prep

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  • Gisel2015
    Gisel2015 Posts: 4,184 Member
    spiriteagle99 wrote: »
    pinuplove wrote: »
    I needed this today. Possibly someone else here can benefit from reading it, too.

    https://hbr.org/2020/03/that-discomfort-youre-feeling-is-grief

    That is a good article. I have always had a problem with what I call 'anticipatory depression', which is essentially the same thing. I think about the bad things that are going to happen (loss of family members, loss of financial stability) and spiral down into a deep depression. If I can remember that they haven't happened yet, and may not happen for a while, I can stop the spiral. Looking at the good things in my life right now: my husband, dog, plenty of food and a warm dry home, helps me to get back into the moment and remember to focus on the now, not the uncertain future.

    Thank you for the link <3 . I needed that considering that my wrist fracture, lots of limitations and advance age are bringing lots of anxiety.
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,565 Member
    Athijade wrote: »
    bmeadows380 wrote: »
    Athijade wrote: »
    Indiana update

    Tested: 2,931
    Positive: 365
    Deaths: 12

    Marion and Hamilton counties (where I work and live) have both jumped up in cases at 161 and 25 respectively.

    I am feeling better. My cough is a lot less frequent and still no fever. I am SO nauseated this morning though. No idea what is up. Hope it is not a stomach bug because I just don't know if I could deal with that right now. And since I am working and can't get to the store, I can't get some ginger ale. I asked my family if anyone was going out to look. If they can't I will reach out to a friend to see if she is willing. Hopefully someone can. I am struggling this morning.

    Do you have some ginger in your spice cabinet? I've never really tried it myself, but you might be able to make some ginger tea if no one can find ginger ale for you.

    Hope the nausea goes away for you! I hate feeling that way - I'm the sort of person who doesn't retch easily, so when I get nauseated, I am miserable for hours.

    I got ahold of one of my cousins that is going to swing by the store and then do a drop off. She was already going to be up this way so offered to help. I actually have fresh ginger in the freezer if I need it. May try some peppermint tea as well here in a bit.

    Of course, after I wrote that, I read an article about how digestive issues and nausea may be early signs of Corona. I just have to laugh because if I don't then I will lose it.

    Hugs! At this point, there have been reports of coronavirus patients having pretty much any symptom you can think of. Sort of like googling for cancer signs (don't). I wonder how many of those symptoms were from the patient having a mild cold or stomach bug when they got sick.

    I have bad allergies. If I were to get the virus now they'd probably add sneezing five times in a row every twenty minutes to the list 😂
  • lightenup2016
    lightenup2016 Posts: 1,055 Member
    amusedmonkey wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    amusedmonkey wrote: »
    After a few days of no community transmitted cases (all cases are either already quarantined or of known trackable origins), the curfew has been scaled back. Corner stores are now open, and we are allowed to be outside before 6 pm. I expected total chaos now that people are free to go out, but it appears a full curfew has changed how seriously they are taking this. They now stand in line and keep a proper distance between them all on their own. We have enough small stores everywhere, and larger stores are only open for delivery.
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    What country are you in again and when did you start taking measures to prevent community spread?

    Jordan. They moved fast. Started measures when the first case was discovered. Closed land borders, then denied entry for non-citizens from high-risk countries, then stopped flights to and from high risk countries, then denied entry for non-citizens from all countries, then stopped all passenger flights. Returning citizens were transported to quarantine from the airport. When an earlier undiscovered case was present at a wedding which lead to a few more cases, they closed non-essencial businesses (lockdown) and closed all roads between provinces, and then when they discovered a case they couldn't track back to a source, they announced a full curfew, which now has been scaled back. The curfew only lasted 5 days to make sure no new cases of unknown origins were spreading. We were in lockdown for about a week before that. Everything happened fast.

    I just read an article indicating that Jordan loosened their curfew due to "chaos" that the strict lockdown had caused, with many people not able to get food. Is this your understanding, or did Jordan really loosen restrictions because of reduced spread of the virus?

    I apologize ahead of time if this sounds argumentative--I'm really just wondering about the true reason for the loosening of the restrictions, having just read that in the news.
  • COGypsy
    COGypsy Posts: 1,346 Member
    SuzySunshine99 wrote: »
    Katmary71 wrote: »
    mph323 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Forgot to post this cool thing that people are doing in NZ for kids - https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120513315/coronavirus-new-zealanders-start-teddy-bear-hunt-for-kids-during-covid19-lockdown

    I guess bear hunts are a thing here in the US as well. I heard about rainbow hunts last week and my neighbor's 10 year old drew me a rainbow that I've put in my window.

    https://www.today.com/parents/entertaining-kids-rainbows-bear-hunts-amid-coronavirus-t176726

    Our little city is doing chalk drawings on the sidewalks. Some of them are very elaborate and fun to look at while out walking 😊

    My SIL told me she was taking my nephews to write cheerful stuff in chalk on people's driveways. My brother thinks it's ridiculous! You can guess which is a pre-K teacher!

    They keep telling us to go for walks....but all these kids are blocking the sidewalks writing a bunch of crap with chalk. I'M WALKING HERE PEOPLE!

    Love, Your Neighborhood Curmudgeon

    A kid in my building has given up on it's usual hopscotch chalking to abstract art---filling the cement squares with sort of quilt-like colored in shapes. I take a shortcut around it on the grass because the last thing I need is to clean colored chalk dust off my floors! :D
  • lkpducky
    lkpducky Posts: 17,580 Member
    edited March 2020
    799 cases and 13 deaths in Los Angeles County. No idea what fraction of the population was even tested.
    ETA: 812 cases
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    mph323 wrote: »
    Our little city population 60,000 just had to close all the parks, picnic areas and playgrounds because people just couldn't not gather in groups (and not just teens). I don't get it, I really don't. Most people have to risk crowds while shopping as it is, why take extra unnecessary chances? Especially with children. I've seen a couple of families with kids playing on playground equipment and I just wanted to stop and shake them!

    It might get to that point here. https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/03/25/parks-lakefront-could-be-closed-and-people-arrested-if-they-dont-start-staying-at-home-officials-warn/

    "People could get fined up to $500 if they don't stop crowding each other at parks and beaches or if they don't practice social distancing."

    -and-

    “For the most part, Chicagoans have been doing well at maintaining social distancing. But we are concerned with what we’ve seen in recent days — both indoors and outdoors,” [Mayor] Lightfoot said. “I’ve personally been concerned about what I’ve seen in our parks: people playing basketball. And what I’ve seen along our lakefront: way too many people gathering like it’s just another day.

    “This is not another day.”

    Lightfoot said that even while on her way to the press conference, she saw people congregating on the lakefront trail and at beaches.

    Continuing to gather in crowds is against state law under the stay at home order, Lightfoot said, and it will lead to further spread of the coronavirus and more deaths.

    It’s still OK to leave home to go on walks or to get essentials, like groceries. But walks should be short and kept near the home, Lightfoot said, and people should avoid long bike rides and runs along the lakefront. She also said playgrounds are shut down and people should not play on them."
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited March 2020
    IL new numbers in: 1865 positives and 19 deaths (3 more since yesterday). 14,209 tested. Chicago (city only) has 915, and 5 deaths, so no more deaths here since yesterday.

    Note re the issue of lots of people being out, it was close to 60 and sunny today, probably the nicest day of 2020 so far, and was quite nice yesterday too. For once we might be better off with worse weather.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited March 2020
    Interesting piece on map showing how much different areas are social distancing based on GPS maps.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-chicago-social-distancing-score-20200325-c5aeioufznd3vodcm3a3jkxpfu-story.html

    "Both Cook County and the state of Illinois have high marks as of Tuesday on the “Social Distancing Scoreboard,” an interactive project based on GPS location data collected by the company Unacast that roughly measures whether or not people are heeding the advice of officials to “flatten the curve” of the spread of the coronavirus.

    The scores were determined by the change in average distance traveled compared with before the coronavirus outbreak. If residents are staying put aside from the occasional trip to the grocery store or pharmacy, the dip in travel would be apparent in the data.

    A more than 40% decrease leads to an A, with grades dropping from there. Anything less than a 10% decrease — or an increase — ends in an F...."

    Illinois had a 40% decrease by March 21, according to Unacast’s board. Cook County saw a 44% decrease.

    [Arwady, director of the IL dept of public health] noted that it’s safe for people to be out for walks and she encourages exercise with proper precautions but worries about crowds of people doing that at the same time. The city will be taking steps to limit crowds, Arwady said.

    “When the lakefront is looking like the middle of summer and everyone’s wanting to go there, we are not social distancing effectively," she said. "We’re going to be doing some more patrolling there, some more trying to help folks stay away.”

    Arwady said that Chicago is on a “big, steep, upward trajectory” in the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases, and the city is hoping to slow that rise. “We’ll put in additional orders if we need to,” she said, referring to the city’s stay home order.

    “I’m glad we’re in better shape than the rest of the country, but it is not enough,” Arwady said, noting the 40% decline in city travel. The goal, she said, is to get to a 75% reduction to flatten the curve enough to prevent city hospitals from being overwhelmed.

    “I need Chicago at an A+. Maybe an A++,” Arwady said."
  • Gisel2015
    Gisel2015 Posts: 4,184 Member
    I don't know if this has been posted already.

    Prince Charles tests positive, displays 'mild symptoms'

    Britain's Prince Charles, heir to the throne, has tested positive for the coronavirus, his official royal residence said in a statement. The statement said Prince Charles, 71, has "been displaying mild symptoms but otherwise remains in good health." His wife, the Duchess of Cornwall, does not have the virus, a test showed.

    Prince Charles' coronavirus diagnosis:It's a huge deal for Brits, the monarchy. Here's why.

    Britain's Queen Elizabeth has canceled a number of diary events "as a sensible precaution" amid the outbreak, but as late as last week she was still holding "audiences" with members of the public. Britain's monarch is 93.

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  • lkpducky
    lkpducky Posts: 17,580 Member
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    I don't know if this has been posted already.

    Prince Charles tests positive, displays 'mild symptoms'

    Britain's Prince Charles, heir to the throne, has tested positive for the coronavirus, his official royal residence said in a statement. The statement said Prince Charles, 71, has "been displaying mild symptoms but otherwise remains in good health." His wife, the Duchess of Cornwall, does not have the virus, a test showed.

    Prince Charles' coronavirus diagnosis:It's a huge deal for Brits, the monarchy. Here's why.

    Britain's Queen Elizabeth has canceled a number of diary events "as a sensible precaution" amid the outbreak, but as late as last week she was still holding "audiences" with members of the public. Britain's monarch is 93.

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    The Queen is just as stubborn as my 94-year-old mother! :(
  • smithker75
    smithker75 Posts: 80 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just got my emergency alert, in case I'd somehow missed that we are going on lockdown. The alert sound on my phone was suitably obnoxious and attention grabbing...

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    Australia got a text alert yesterday too. Our PM held a press conference the evening before, imposing a new level of restrictions (none surprising - weddings, funerals, boot camps, beauty services etc). For some reason, they imposed a restriction of hairdressing appointments to be 30 minutes long but cut all other health and beauty services completely. THEN, by the typical mixed messaging we are used to here, that decision was reversed this morning and all hair services can operate. It's ridiculous.
    The text message we received finished with 'and stay home if you're sick', contrary to all directives to 'stay home if possible' given prior.
    *kitten* show...
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    smithker75 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just got my emergency alert, in case I'd somehow missed that we are going on lockdown. The alert sound on my phone was suitably obnoxious and attention grabbing...

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    Australia got a text alert yesterday too. Our PM held a press conference the evening before, imposing a new level of restrictions (none surprising - weddings, funerals, boot camps, beauty services etc). For some reason, they imposed a restriction of hairdressing appointments to be 30 minutes long but cut all other health and beauty services completely. THEN, by the typical mixed messaging we are used to here, that decision was reversed this morning and all hair services can operate. It's ridiculous.
    The text message we received finished with 'and stay home if you're sick', contrary to all directives to 'stay home if possible' given prior.
    *kitten* show...

    *sigh* :(

    And no, you can't have Cindy.
  • smithker75
    smithker75 Posts: 80 Member
    @Nony_Mouse haha. Beat me to it. I just watched her FB live...amazing.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    bmeadows380 wrote: »
    And though our state is supposed to be in a shelter in place lock down, traffic on the main road was pretty steady and really about normal. My sister works for Krogers and said they were busy. The list of what is considered essential in WV is long and pretty much the only places that had to close were beauty shops, sit-down restaurants with no carry out options, and bars and theaters. The local retail shops, pharmacies, and grocery stores are still open, and as long as those places are open, especially Walmart, people are going to go out and about business as usual. In my area, its probably going to take a positive case of the virus in town or hitting someone we all know before most people take it seriously, I'm afraid.
    My husband is considered essential, and was trying to figure out just who wasn’t included on the list :lol: He was working from home so we drove into town during his lunch to check things out (didn’t get out of the car), but yeah, most everything was open minus a few storefronts (hair, consignment, can’t remember what else). Everything else had lights on and running (mostly restaurants, pharmacies, and banks I guess).
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited March 2020
    Most of our stores are closed (and those open are often operating by curbside as much as possible) with the exception of stuff like grocery, pet supplies, pharmacy, liquor. Banks here have very reduced personnel (as nearly all bank functions don't have to be in person). Restaurants are delivery only.

    I walked around my immediate neighborhood today (not in the direction of any grocery store) and everything I saw was closed but for a gas station. Many businesses that are operating (like construction, apparently, as I saw various ongoing projects) don't have storefronts. I'm technically essential, but even essential is supposed to WFH if possible and we are (with one person going into the empty office once a week). But businesses that need to be open to survive are lobbying to be declared essential -- I got an email from a pet grooming place (which I have never used, I have cats and they would be horrified) that claimed pet grooming had been declared essential in NY and they they were still trying to change IL's mind, and a landscaper/yard care place I used one emailed relieved that they had been declared essential.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,264 Member
    I can see that pet grooming is sort of essential - not the fancy stuff but basic cutting of dogs with fur that needs cutting.

    Also landscaping - if we want people to stay home and do home things we would be contradicting that if garden shops were closed.
    As well as basic repairs of hoses, fences etc. and basic equipment like weeding implements, buckets, etc.

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