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janejellyroll wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »I am not understanding all of those that're supposedly taken this seriously, yet plan to and/or already're doing outdoor activities. If we were to pass by each other upon a hiking trail, it's like passing by each other anywhere else needlessly. Actually it'd most likely be worse, due to our heavy breathing via exercise exertion. Than just casually walking via 1 room to another within a climate controlled environment, where our breathing intensity'd remain normal.
I'm not coming close to the "danger zone" for personal contact when I'm running outside and it's something I'm even more conscious of now. I ran outdoors this morning and I noticed other runners were also being very careful to stay at least six feet away as well. Outdoors is big, we can afford to give each other space.
I was out on my usually-deserted trail here the other day. There is a bridge. One 10 foot wide bridge within five miles. As I was approaching it I saw on the other side of it a group of people, like 8 people with kids and parents approaching from the other side. I did a ninja-run across before they got there (barely!) and bolted off to the side.
It's a good thing my spatial judgement is still working.
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cmriverside wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »I am not understanding all of those that're supposedly taken this seriously, yet plan to and/or already're doing outdoor activities. If we were to pass by each other upon a hiking trail, it's like passing by each other anywhere else needlessly. Actually it'd most likely be worse, due to our heavy breathing via exercise exertion. Than just casually walking via 1 room to another within a climate controlled environment, where our breathing intensity'd remain normal.
I'm not coming close to the "danger zone" for personal contact when I'm running outside and it's something I'm even more conscious of now. I ran outdoors this morning and I noticed other runners were also being very careful to stay at least six feet away as well. Outdoors is big, we can afford to give each other space.
I was out on my usually-deserted trail here the other day. There is a bridge. One 10 foot wide bridge within five miles. As I was approaching it I saw on the other side of it a group of people, like 8 people with kids and parents approaching from the other side. I did a ninja-run across before they got there (barely!) and bolted off to the side.
It's a good thing my spatial judgement is still working.
"Run, Zombies!" has been replaced by "Run, Other Humans!"
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moonangel12 wrote: »My husband is working still, but they are rotating work-from-home days to attempt to limit exposure and also taking steps to try and limit shift to shift contact. His company provides lids for P&G’s Lysol containers - definitely in hot demand! Along with packaging for other cleaning supplies, (I think they still do Clorox lids), and other basic hygiene items... closing them down would shut down P&G’s production, leading to supply chain disruptions all around. Craziness...
Please tell him thank you--all the people working in factories producing the goods needed are so appreciated by me, my family, and all my friends. We've talked about these folks and pray that systems for protecting them (lowering output so fewer people have to report and can stay safe distance apart, constant cleaning, whatever is needed) are in place already or will be soon. And if his factory has to close--which could happen--I hope he and his fellow workers know that many of us will pitch in to help others with whatever we have in our possession, and no one will blame any worker who is at risk or lives with someone at risk, or whose job is put on hold. Each and every one of us needs to make the best choice for ourselves and our families, and then do what we can to help our neighbors.
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-infected-people-without-symptoms-are-driving-epidemics-fast-spread-says-new-study/
"People with mild or no symptoms of COVID-19 are the main drivers behind the spread of the coronavirus epidemic."10 -
moonangel12 wrote: »My husband is working still, but they are rotating work-from-home days to attempt to limit exposure and also taking steps to try and limit shift to shift contact. His company provides lids for P&G’s Lysol containers - definitely in hot demand! Along with packaging for other cleaning supplies, (I think they still do Clorox lids), and other basic hygiene items... closing them down would shut down P&G’s production, leading to supply chain disruptions all around. Craziness...
You'll find that they will not shut down any company that makes essential cleaning supplies. Just like they will not shut down the electric company, gas company, water company. Essential services will remain open. Sorry for your husband. I hope he's protected while working.3 -
It doesn’t really matter how it’s being spread at this point. It’s what each of us are doing at this point that will limit the spread.
I’m so grateful for the people that are on the front lines, putting their, and their families health at risk for the common good. Health care workers, cashiers at vital merchants businesses, manufacturers, and government. Thanks to everyone here that’s getting information out to us. The children of elderly parents, who are making the tough decisions not to risk bringing the virus to their parents. I’m very sad to think that it may be a long time before I see my daughter again. Pulling together and making sacrifices for others. There’s still a lot of good in the world.
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They are taking preventative measures, but they are somewhat being made up on the fly... this is so unprecedented that his company didn’t have anything in place, but since they are on site with P&G they have given them their guidelines and that is what they are going with. The break room was extended and has smaller tables set up with single chairs in each spot (going with the 6’ spacing). They are figuring out procedures as they go in terms of what to do if someone is sick. He picked up a 4 sided pop up tent for a “quarantine” area. Cafeteria was shut down last week. This is when, looking back, the whole open-air office concept was maybe not the best idea.snowflake954 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »My husband is working still, but they are rotating work-from-home days to attempt to limit exposure and also taking steps to try and limit shift to shift contact. His company provides lids for P&G’s Lysol containers - definitely in hot demand! Along with packaging for other cleaning supplies, (I think they still do Clorox lids), and other basic hygiene items... closing them down would shut down P&G’s production, leading to supply chain disruptions all around. Craziness...
You'll find that they will not shut down any company that makes essential cleaning supplies. Just like they will not shut down the electric company, gas company, water company. Essential services will remain open. Sorry for your husband. I hope he's protected while working.
ETA: I did ask him to start changing clothes completely when he comes home... he usually will wash hands, change shirts, etc. I need to start lysol-ing his PPE in the evenings, although I am running low on that after the kids last bug.
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Just heard on the news that someone at my husband's company (the local branch) tested positive. We don't know though if the person works in the same building though. The company will have a virtual meeting in a few hours.13
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One of my 3 adult kids is now working from home; she's in NC. I wish my other 2 could work remotely.
Especially my dd who lives in Seattle. 5 -
We all now know it doesn't really matter the age of the infected; they can still get seriously ill. But in the beginning you'd hear a lot of "only the vulnerable are at greater risk...." Someone posted a picture of herself and her 7 year old dd who has leukemia. It said "To you it's only the vulnerable, to me it's my everything".13
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moonangel12 wrote: »As surrounded as we are in our little patch of WV - MD, CA, and DC all within a stones throw - I don’t see any way it’s not here... and now that you mention it, We had something back in January with a really bad cough (started with my husband), mine was really funky and to the point that I felt like I was gasping for air. I used my inhaler and thankfully started coughing up crud... scared me! Then the crud my kiddos had at the start of this thread. I wish I knew for sure, but no way to know...
We had a few people in my church hospitalized with that stuff in January, too. It was also going around in late November/early December, and the dry cough lasted for weeks. Though that was before the 1st case was discovered in China, so I'm not sure if it was, or not. It was something that had a respiratory component to it, and when I think back to my mom's symptoms, she was extremely lethargic for several days and ran a fever as well with it, and the cough seemed to linger for a while. My church actually limited services for about 2 weeks because of it as it was going around pretty quickly - so was it COVID-19? Maybe? No way of knowing now, though. And unfortunately, it seems that you can re-catch it after you've had it before, so that isn't going to help if it starts around again, though I hope that if you catch it a second time, the case will be milder.
I found out that the fast food restaurants are going to drive through only here. The newspaper this morning had interviewed the health department for the two local counties which both said that there have been people who have been tested negative in both counties, but that testing was still very limited and had to meet the criteria; that you couldn't be tested just because you wanted to because there wasn't enough tests. Monroe County went on to say that they only had 5 private tests; everything else had to be put through the state health department, and the state would only test those that meet their testing requirements.
I'm going to continue coming into my office for now, but that decision will be made on a day to day basis, depending on whether a case is found in this county or neighboring counties. We are a very small service center, so I'm only exposed to a handful of people, and we are in separate offices for the most part. The biggest areas of concern will be the bathrooms and the kerig machine in the kitchen......But we have several bottles of sanitizer available right now, as well as wipes, and the service center manager even sent the secretary after bleach today, saying if we run out of the other stuff and can't restock, we'll resort to using diluted bleach water.
Unfortunately, still almost impossible to find toilet paper or other paper products. I stopped at the local Walmart at lunch for a bathroom break (and that made me rather queasy, thinking about germ spreading and public spaces, but what can one do? Risk an indecent exposure citation?) Anyway, it had no toilet paper, no paper towels, no napkins, and one and half cases of kleenex tissues. I was needing the tissues at the office, so that was nice, but I need paper towels at home.
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My daughter and SIL are cooped up in a tiny appartment in SF trying to work from home with 2 kids 7 and 2 and a broken washer. 2 just started licking everything a couple of weeks ago and now has the inevitable nasty cold. And it's raining so can't even get out for fresh air 😔
I feel so fortunate we live in a somewhat rural area in a house with room to get away from each other. My heart goes out to those who are having to ride this out in close quarters without being able to safely go outside. Like others in this thread have commented, the mental health aspects of having to isolate will last well after the crisis is over.8 -
In our state, at least 2 of the 10 confirmed cases didn’t qualify for tests, so had to get private testing. It took a little longer, so there may be more private tests pending and/or Dr.s looking for tests.3
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/17/wic-tweet-asks-grocery-customers-watch-labels-heres-why/5066040002/
Never considered this. This is specific to Maine, but would apply to various assistance programs across the country.
In the US, some people on assistance are limited in the brands of food they can buy. In Maine, there's a "WIC" sticker on eligible brands, so for instance only certain brands of bread can be purchased with assistance money. People are being asked to try to avoid buying items with this sticker so that they're available to those in need.
So many things we never have to think of in our regular day to day. I'm looking up the regulations in CA to see how our system works.14 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »cmhubbard92 wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »Walmart isn't delivering or allowing any advance choice, of future delivery dates & my local grocery store's time slots're sold out, through March 22nd.
@DecadeDuchess I placed an order today and there wasn't any information about this, it was Walmart.com not the grocery though. Is it the same with Walmart.com? I have some stuff like cat litter I'll really need next week so if it's true for walmart.com then I'll need to brave the stores.
I ordered some quarantine(and regular day-to-day) chocolates on Amazon. Prime delivery should have been yesterday, but due to the intense overload of orders, the earliest I can get my order will be Thursday. I'm not worried, but it just shows how much of an overload the "system" is having due to grocery stores selling out of certain things, or people fearing going out.
Shoot. I ordered cat food on Sunday from Amazon since there was none available here. It said at the time it was in stock and would be here Prime aka Tuesday, but now it says it hasn’t even shipped yet and will be here Thursday. It also says it’s sold out and will be available in one to two days if you go to buy it. I wonder if it exists or if I just won’t get it.
One of my cats needs hypoallergenic food, options for what I can feed her are really limited. Her prescription food is made in the US. I'm planning to have my vet clinic order in several trays for me next week when I have the money for it. Just in case. Also going to check if there may be any issues getting another of my cat's medications (yes, I have a house of special needs cats!).
I hope you both are able to get the food soon. I thought I had enough cat supplies as I stocked up at Costco but have two cats, they go through litter faster than I expect. It's supposed to be here Monday. I'll need to go to the store at the end of the week so I'll get a box just in case. Chewy is backed up too but still delivering (it's cheaper there but I didn't discover that until after I ordered).
My gym finally was forced to close. My doctor's check-up appointment is still happening today, I've been in isolation since Friday and it feels weird to be going out.
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My husband caught something back in late January and had symptoms like those you describe. He was on again off again sick for about a month or so. He may well have had it - his company does business with China and someone may have traveled there before everything got locked down.bmeadows380 wrote: »We had a few people in my church hospitalized with that stuff in January, too. It was also going around in late November/early December, and the dry cough lasted for weeks. Though that was before the 1st case was discovered in China, so I'm not sure if it was, or not. It was something that had a respiratory component to it, and when I think back to my mom's symptoms, she was extremely lethargic for several days and ran a fever as well with it, and the cough seemed to linger for a while. My church actually limited services for about 2 weeks because of it as it was going around pretty quickly - so was it COVID-19? Maybe? No way of knowing now, though. And unfortunately, it seems that you can re-catch it after you've had it before, so that isn't going to help if it starts around again, though I hope that if you catch it a second time, the case will be milder.
As far as reinfection - it's not clear if it's reinfection or if the illness didn't completely go away, or if the virus went dormant / hid from detection.
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Just heard on the news that someone at my husband's company (the local branch) tested positive. We don't know though if the person works in the same building though. The company will have a virtual meeting in a few hours.
I'm so sorry. Hopefully you'll get some reassuring news. I figure it's only a matter of time before it hits the factory where my husband works.3 -
My husband caught something back in late January and had symptoms like those you describe. He was on again off again sick for about a month or so. He may well have had it - his company does business with China and someone may have traveled there before everything got locked down.bmeadows380 wrote: »We had a few people in my church hospitalized with that stuff in January, too. It was also going around in late November/early December, and the dry cough lasted for weeks. Though that was before the 1st case was discovered in China, so I'm not sure if it was, or not. It was something that had a respiratory component to it, and when I think back to my mom's symptoms, she was extremely lethargic for several days and ran a fever as well with it, and the cough seemed to linger for a while. My church actually limited services for about 2 weeks because of it as it was going around pretty quickly - so was it COVID-19? Maybe? No way of knowing now, though. And unfortunately, it seems that you can re-catch it after you've had it before, so that isn't going to help if it starts around again, though I hope that if you catch it a second time, the case will be milder.
As far as reinfection - it's not clear if it's reinfection or if the illness didn't completely go away, or if the virus went dormant / hid from detection.
Yeah, I had the same type of illness in December. At the time I even said, "This is different to any other illness." Coughing that wouldn't stop, lasted a month. Then I got a sinus infection and was sick for another two weeks. I didn't go to the doctor, but with the sinus infection I was considering it - they can turn on you. I have a lot of close contact with children and Chinese nationals living here in the Seattle area as well as other tourists.
I believe it was here long before February. No way to know if that's what I had. In a way I hope it was...
The flu lab here was testing for it under the radar. You may have seen the news story, it's interesting.
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/seattle-flu-study-allegedly-tested-samples-for-covid-19-against-federal-state-guidelines8 -
cmriverside wrote: »
My husband caught something back in late January and had symptoms like those you describe. He was on again off again sick for about a month or so. He may well have had it - his company does business with China and someone may have traveled there before everything got locked down.bmeadows380 wrote: »We had a few people in my church hospitalized with that stuff in January, too. It was also going around in late November/early December, and the dry cough lasted for weeks. Though that was before the 1st case was discovered in China, so I'm not sure if it was, or not. It was something that had a respiratory component to it, and when I think back to my mom's symptoms, she was extremely lethargic for several days and ran a fever as well with it, and the cough seemed to linger for a while. My church actually limited services for about 2 weeks because of it as it was going around pretty quickly - so was it COVID-19? Maybe? No way of knowing now, though. And unfortunately, it seems that you can re-catch it after you've had it before, so that isn't going to help if it starts around again, though I hope that if you catch it a second time, the case will be milder.
As far as reinfection - it's not clear if it's reinfection or if the illness didn't completely go away, or if the virus went dormant / hid from detection.
Yeah, I had the same type of illness in December. At the time I even said, "This is different to any other illness." Coughing that wouldn't stop, lasted a month. Then I got a sinus infection and was sick for another two weeks. I didn't go to the doctor, but with the sinus infection I was considering it - they can turn on you. I have a lot of close contact with children and Chinese nationals living here in the Seattle area as well as other tourists.
I believe it was here long before February. No way to know if that's what I had. In a way I hope it was...
The flu lab here was testing for it under the radar. You may have seen the news story, it's interesting.
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/seattle-flu-study-allegedly-tested-samples-for-covid-19-against-federal-state-guidelines
https://livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html
"A 55-year-old individual from Hubei province in China may have been the first person to have contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus spreading across the globe. That case dates back to Nov. 17, 2019, according to the South Morning China Post."
Assuming China was ground Zero we can assume it came by plane to the USA at least by Nov 2019. You link info concerns me as to why testing for COVID-19 should have been a no no by Federal mandate.4 -
I work in the laboratory of a small community hospital on the outskirts of NOLA. We are all expected to come to work for our normal shifts, as by now most of us may have been exposed to the positive patients we have hospitalized right now. The hospital just cannot put all of us on 14 day quarantine. They gave one phlebotomist a piece of paper and told her to log her temps every two hours. But we’re a lab, and don’t have patient thermometers, we only have lab refrigerator and freezer thermometers! We’re doing about 75 to 80 regular flu tests a day, in addition to our regular workload. Although outpatient testing numbers have significantly decreased. Visitors are being screened at the front door, and if they are allowed in the hospital they are given masks to wear. I’ve never been given a mask to wear nor have I been told by anyone to put one on (I’m usually holed up in the lab, remember). We are short staffed, as most clinical laboratory scientists know, and barely can cover regular working hours in the lab. Now, they are debating whether to set up drive thru tents for flu testing or not. Our flu kit is moderately complex, meaning not just any nurse or medical assistant can perform the testing. So, more overtime for us? Who knows. All I know is that when I’m done with my shift and go to the store to try and get groceries, practically everything is gone. Sigh.24
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