Strict calories deficit: not losing weight!!!!!
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Extreme dieting is never a good idea. You didn’t gain weight instantly, you don’t need to try to lose it instantly0
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I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
When someone reports results out of line with expectations and has a private diary and repeatedly avoids answering the very simple question "do you accurately weigh and log your food?" what do you think people are going to assume?
You asked for help but seem not to want it enough to take any steps to resolve your problem.
Venting is fine but in the end it's not going to resolve your problem.
Hey, thanks again for your input! I meticulously measure food and calories and don't need to be told the obvious. I asked, in my original post, for any *non obvious* things I might be missing. I have been using this app and tracking food and exercise for years. I guess it was my mistake for asking for creative responses from people who seem so set in their dogma. Since the only answer from you is that I must be counting my calories wrong, I know that I need to see someone with more answers and more resources to help. I have exhausted every solution and variable I know to be under my control. The issue is not me not wanting to solve my problem, the issue is that I can't, and the responses I got in my post were mostly, as usual, very basic. So like I said, I'll be seeing my physician.
There's your answer.
Interesting you use the word measure when I used the word weigh.
Yet despite being so skilled at tracking you won't open your diaries or tell people how you measure either your food or your exercise.
Despite "doing everything" right you aren't getting the right results.
As you can't actually create energy out of thin air then clearly there is something you aren't doing right and just like any problem solver would do - you start with the obvious before moving on to the unlikely.
No it's not my only answer but when someone refuses to give hard data and only vague assurances you make helping you impossible.
Best of luck.13 -
Hi guys thanks for all the responses! My diary is completely accurate as I have been doing this for a long time (and will always check if the nutrition on the app lines with the nutrition on my food labels). I presume it is mostly a result of water retention and possibly stress.
I've been on this new diet for a little under 2 months and the only time I seen the scale drop was when I had a week break from the gym, so I do think maybe the heavy lifting is causing me to retain excess water or something along those lines?4 -
I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
When someone reports results out of line with expectations and has a private diary and repeatedly avoids answering the very simple question "do you accurately weigh and log your food?" what do you think people are going to assume?
You asked for help but seem not to want it enough to take any steps to resolve your problem.
Venting is fine but in the end it's not going to resolve your problem.
Hey, thanks again for your input! I meticulously measure food and calories and don't need to be told the obvious. I asked, in my original post, for any *non obvious* things I might be missing. I have been using this app and tracking food and exercise for years. I guess it was my mistake for asking for creative responses from people who seem so set in their dogma. Since the only answer from you is that I must be counting my calories wrong, I know that I need to see someone with more answers and more resources to help. I have exhausted every solution and variable I know to be under my control. The issue is not me not wanting to solve my problem, the issue is that I can't, and the responses I got in my post were mostly, as usual, very basic. So like I said, I'll be seeing my physician.
There's your answer.
Not sure why you have an attitude. Seems fishy that you get so defensive and refuse to make your diary public. Many other people who THOUGHT they were meticulously tracking their calories then learned what they were doing wrong when they asked veterans for help and those who were trying to help could SEE what the OP was doing wrong.
If you don’t want to provide all of the information needed to receive help, don’t get mad when the help isn’t what you wanted.
Best of luck15 -
I track things in my diary that are private so I won't be making it public. Maybe I will find a way to share it through screen shots with someone encouraging in the future. Thanks for all the responses and suggestions!1
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I track things in my diary that are private so I won't be making it public. Maybe I will find a way to share it through screen shots with someone encouraging in the future. Thanks for all the responses and suggestions!
Good idea.
Do bear in mind that sometimes help doesn't come sugar-coated but the intention is still to help.
Sugar-coating is 5 cals that could have been avoided......14 -
I track things in my diary that are private so I won't be making it public. Maybe I will find a way to share it through screen shots with someone encouraging in the future. Thanks for all the responses and suggestions!
Good idea.
Do bear in mind that sometimes help doesn't come sugar-coated but the intention is still to help.
Sugar-coating is 5 cals that could have been avoided......
I agree. I don't tend to sugar coat much of anything...
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bethanyjxx wrote: »Hi guys thanks for all the responses! My diary is completely accurate as I have been doing this for a long time (and will always check if the nutrition on the app lines with the nutrition on my food labels). I presume it is mostly a result of water retention and possibly stress.
I've been on this new diet for a little under 2 months and the only time I seen the scale drop was when I had a week break from the gym, so I do think maybe the heavy lifting is causing me to retain excess water or something along those lines?
NEW lifting may cause a spike water retention initially, and you may always carry a few pounds of water, but it won't STOP weight loss for two months.0 -
I track things in my diary that are private so I won't be making it public. Maybe I will find a way to share it through screen shots with someone encouraging in the future. Thanks for all the responses and suggestions!
If you want to share it with just one person, you have the option to provide a code, which I think is called a key, so just one other person could see your diary. This would be far more useful than screenshots.
When I review someone's diary, I like to be able to go back at least a week, and to see exercise as well as food.8 -
I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
When someone reports results out of line with expectations and has a private diary and repeatedly avoids answering the very simple question "do you accurately weigh and log your food?" what do you think people are going to assume?
You asked for help but seem not to want it enough to take any steps to resolve your problem.
Venting is fine but in the end it's not going to resolve your problem.
Hey, thanks again for your input! I meticulously measure food and calories and don't need to be told the obvious. I asked, in my original post, for any *non obvious* things I might be missing. I have been using this app and tracking food and exercise for years. I guess it was my mistake for asking for creative responses from people who seem so set in their dogma. Since the only answer from you is that I must be counting my calories wrong, I know that I need to see someone with more answers and more resources to help. I have exhausted every solution and variable I know to be under my control. The issue is not me not wanting to solve my problem, the issue is that I can't, and the responses I got in my post were mostly, as usual, very basic. So like I said, I'll be seeing my physician.
There's your answer.
Interesting you use the word measure when I used the word weigh.
Yet despite being so skilled at tracking you won't open your diaries or tell people how you measure either your food or your exercise.
Despite "doing everything" right you aren't getting the right results.
As you can't actually create energy out of thin air then clearly there is something you aren't doing right and just like any problem solver would do - you start with the obvious before moving on to the unlikely.
No it's not my only answer but when someone refuses to give hard data and only vague assurances you make helping you impossible.
Best of luck.
I have to agree with you sir. I find it odd when people "beg" for help, but refuse to give needed information. The kicker for me is, these folks are asking people to do the job of a private coach! @sijomial , you have been doing this stuff long enough, you could be a lifestyle coach and charge several hundred dollars a month. Or, charge $100 for a one time consult. The folks who ask for "free" help and then get "embarrassed" should realize how nice you are being.13 -
So OP a couple of very simple questions without you having to open your diary.
1) do you weigh everything, or use measuring cups? And by everything, we mean everything. If you take a couple of slices of bread, do you weigh them? Do you weigh packaged food? Or just go by what's stated on the packet. You said you measure milk and butter, that's good. Again, do you weigh these or cups/spoons?
2) what sort of calories from exercise do you get each day, and what exercises are you doing, for how long? How are you working out the calories?
3) are you eating all those exercise calories?
4) whats your deficit set to?6 -
I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
When someone reports results out of line with expectations and has a private diary and repeatedly avoids answering the very simple question "do you accurately weigh and log your food?" what do you think people are going to assume?
You asked for help but seem not to want it enough to take any steps to resolve your problem.
Venting is fine but in the end it's not going to resolve your problem.
Hey, thanks again for your input! I meticulously measure food and calories and don't need to be told the obvious. I asked, in my original post, for any *non obvious* things I might be missing. I have been using this app and tracking food and exercise for years. I guess it was my mistake for asking for creative responses from people who seem so set in their dogma. Since the only answer from you is that I must be counting my calories wrong, I know that I need to see someone with more answers and more resources to help. I have exhausted every solution and variable I know to be under my control. The issue is not me not wanting to solve my problem, the issue is that I can't, and the responses I got in my post were mostly, as usual, very basic. So like I said, I'll be seeing my physician.
There's your answer.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19094249/
The research says you are most likely underreporting intake. Don't blame @sijomial .... blame the research....7 -
I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
I dont understand why some many people don't understand how much hormones a can affect a woman's weight. They acknowledge that women hold onto it often during their periods but not that the same could be true if hormones are out of whack all month long.8 -
I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
I dont understand why some many people don't understand how much hormones a can affect a woman's weight. They acknowledge that women hold onto it often during their periods but not that the same could be true if hormones are out of whack all month long.
If you're "holding on" to weight all month long, that's just . . . your weight. That is the sign that you aren't in a deficit.
A hormonal water weight fluctuation, on the other hand, is temporary. You see your weight go up and, if you don't understand the reason why, that can be confusing or even distressing.
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I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
I dont understand why some many people don't understand how much hormones a can affect a woman's weight. They acknowledge that women hold onto it often during their periods but not that the same could be true if hormones are out of whack all month long.
Hormones I have little doubt can lead to weight gain. Not so much on the calories out side. There are a few conditions that might have a marginal effect, but I think the greatest impact of hormones is calories in. Certain hormones can raise appetite no doubt, but that will not slow weight loss unless one is logging accurately and at the right deficit. I find it odd that many folks who feel too "embarrassed" to open their diaries feel they are on point. One quick look at the research suggest that people under report "bad" foods. I don't think they are "bad", but probably easy to over eat on. The folks with the highest under reporting were overweight and obese women.4 -
psychod787 wrote: »I just posted this same issue and basically got told that I'm logging my calories wrong... I do think being older, especially as a woman, can complicate things. I'm having to workout harder, eat less and be hungrier. I will tell you, years ago, when I had an autoimmune disease and some food allergies diagnosed, as soon as I quit those foods I lost an immediate ten pounds. Look into an anti-inflammatory, blue zone, or plant based (not vegan) diet. Also think about getting your thyroid tested, having a hormonal panel run, and getting tested for allergies. I also lost weight after having my hormones run by Dr who did a whole panel run multiple times during my luteal phase. I was very imbalanced and some supplementation for a few months helped me lose weight and get back in balance. Right now though I'm in the same boat as you. Going up and down a pound despite herculean efforts. I'm going back to the doctor soon. I'm sick of it and tired of being told I don't know how to count my calories 🙄
I dont understand why some many people don't understand how much hormones a can affect a woman's weight. They acknowledge that women hold onto it often during their periods but not that the same could be true if hormones are out of whack all month long.
Hormones I have little doubt can lead to weight gain. Not so much on the calories out side. There are a few conditions that might have a marginal effect, but I think the greatest impact of hormones is calories in. Certain hormones can raise appetite no doubt, but that will not slow weight loss unless one is logging accurately and at the right deficit. I find it odd that many folks who feel too "embarrassed" to open their diaries feel they are on point. One quick look at the research suggest that people under report "bad" foods. I don't think they are "bad", but probably easy to over eat on. The folks with the highest under reporting were overweight and obese women.
I've been known to log 3,000 calories in ice cream on one day. Or 1900 calories in cookies or Little Debbies or Reeses, and that was in addition to my regular 1700 calories of regular meals.
It happens. Still. Even after I've lost 80 pounds. Heck, WHILE I was losing 80 pounds.
I don't understand the embarrassment when someone is asking for input anyway, but I don't have my diary open. I just don't want to hear about it from anyone on this forum when it happens.
I also don't ask for help. I can figure out exactly where it all goes wrong!
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Does not compute.
If you are counting/logging cals consumed ACCURATELY and are consuming fewer cals than you burn each day, there's NO WAY that you would/could be gaining wt.7 -
So OP a couple of very simple questions without you having to open your diary.
1) do you weigh everything, or use measuring cups? And by everything, we mean everything. If you take a couple of slices of bread, do you weigh them? Do you weigh packaged food? Or just go by what's stated on the packet. You said you measure milk and butter, that's good. Again, do you weigh these or cups/spoons?
2) what sort of calories from exercise do you get each day, and what exercises are you doing, for how long? How are you working out the calories?
3) are you eating all those exercise calories?
4) whats your deficit set to?
1. i use weighing scales - i don't tend to weigh things like bread, but if i was to eat anything out of a packet it'd be weighed (i even weigh minor minor minor things like broccoli and lettuce, which barely take up my calories). i do weigh as much as possible.
2. i tend to walk an average of 10k steps a day (some days its a little less, some days its a lot more, it really depends) and then i have a 1 hour weight session comprising of legs (glute dominant days and quad dominant days), push days and pull days. usually i go the gym 4 times a week, but sometimes more/less depending on how busy i am. never less than 3 though.
3. i don't eat back exercise calories, and have only went over my calories (by roughly 200) on a handful of days
4. my setting is set to lose 2 pounds a week, which gives me a deficit of 1410.0 -
Does not compute.
If you are counting/logging cals consumed ACCURATELY and are consuming fewer cals than you burn each day, there's NO WAY that you would/could be gaining wt.
i understand science, i 100% agree this is NOT possible, which is why i am so confused. i know for certain i am strict with my calorie counting (even if i miscalculated it by even a few hundred calories i should still be under my calorie burn for the day as i don't eat back exercised calories).
i am considering lowering my calories to 1200 for a few weeks (i know this is extremely low though) just to see if i see any differences. i used to have extreme disordered eating patterns so a suggestion is that my metabolism has been severely damaged from this but i don't know how possible/plausible this is.1 -
You need to weigh everything including bread. I have found the bread to always weigh more than what is stated on the package.7
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