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At what temperature/humidity/dewpoint do people start taking their runs indoors? I am currently training for Ironman 70.3 WI in September. I'm not sure if running outside is better to train for conditions, or if it's better to run indoors where I cou,could, have a better run. The un wou,would, be temperature 89, Detroit 68, Rel Humiddity 50.0
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SwtHedgehog wrote: »At what temperature/humidity/dewpoint do people start taking their runs indoors? I am currently training for Ironman 70.3 WI in September. I'm not sure if running outside is better to train for conditions, or if it's better to run indoors where I cou,could, have a better run. The un wou,would, be temperature 89, Detroit 68, Rel Humiddity 50.
I try to plan on only short races in the heat - marathons as early or late in the year as I can - my preferred temp for running is 40 degrees. AND I LOVE my treadmill! I pretty much stick to indoors after it warms past 60, unless it's pouring rain. I LOVE to run in the rain!1 -
Broke in some new shoes today (Hoka Cliftons)... first time in about 15 years I've gone with a shoe dramatically different than what I was used to.
Guess what... today's run sucked. Cognitively I know it's due to a variety of factors, but emotionally it's hard to not blame the shoes.
Stupid Hokas.0 -
whooooo summer running in the N. Texas heat is no joke 😅 Although it definitely motivates me to get my *kitten* out of bed on the weekends so I can hit the pavement before the temp and humidity hit 90 lol3
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SwtHedgehog wrote: »At what temperature/humidity/dewpoint do people start taking their runs indoors? I am currently training for Ironman 70.3 WI in September. I'm not sure if running outside is better to train for conditions, or if it's better to run indoors where I cou,could, have a better run. The un wou,would, be temperature 89, Detroit 68, Rel Humiddity 50.
I'm currently training for Ironman Chattanooga in Sept. Temps on race day average in the mid to high 80's with 70% humidity. Temps in the 90's are fairly common. With that info, most of us are doing our long bike and run sessions in the heat to prepare for race day conditions. Beyond reducing your pace while in the heat, the key is managing nutrition, hydration and electrolytes when temps are very warm. This requires some planning before your training session, perhaps with "aid stations" set up to supplement what you can carry on the bike or in your run vest.
If you haven't already done so, you might also want to do a "sweat test" to understand your fluid loss so you can mitigate with proper fluid intake.
With that said, the 70.3 mile triathlon is my favorite distance to race. Good Luck!2 -
Looking to connect with other runners. I’m a distance runner who prefers the marathon distance boy looking to run some more half marathons, 10ks, 5ks, and maybe some ultras. Current goal is to run a 2:30 by then end of next year. It will be a lot of work, but a fun challenge 👍🏻👍🏻 Feel free to reach out if you want to connect.1
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MikeRunsDaily2021 wrote: »Looking to connect with other runners. I’m a distance runner who prefers the marathon distance boy looking to run some more half marathons, 10ks, 5ks, and maybe some ultras. Current goal is to run a 2:30 by then end of next year. It will be a lot of work, but a fun challenge 👍🏻👍🏻 Feel free to reach out if you want to connect.
I'm glad you're back!!!1 -
MikeRunsDaily2021 wrote: »Looking to connect with other runners. I’m a distance runner who prefers the marathon distance boy looking to run some more half marathons, 10ks, 5ks, and maybe some ultras. Current goal is to run a 2:30 by then end of next year. It will be a lot of work, but a fun challenge 👍🏻👍🏻 Feel free to reach out if you want to connect.
I'm glad you're back!!!
Glad to be back. Good to be back with positive and motivated people 😁😁😁1 -
Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
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SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
I get it. I don't want the attention from random people who intend to encourage me and offer support, either. In my brain, I understand that they mean well. In my heart, I just don't want them butting into my efforts. It's another one of those mental challenges that goes along with running. On my better days, I can retort to "You got this!" (most often said when I'm taking a planned walk break) with "Yeah, I know." On my worse days, I have both earbuds plugged firmly in, and I can pretend I don't even hear them.
I've been guilty of offering the same sort of encouragement, too - memorably, a girl in a race was walking, and I told her "You're not going to WIN like that!" (Honestly, neither of us were ever in the running. We were started way back in the slow people corrals at a race of 30k people.) and she didn't reply, but did start running again. She finished ahead of me, and I told myself "that's what you get." I hope she wasn't offended. I was just joking around. I was in a good mood. But I didn't know her, and I have no idea what she thought of it. But it seems like most people are more receptive to the well wishes than I am, so at the worst, she's probably forgotten all about it.
Just trying to commiserate. It's totally us, though. People mean well, mostly. I recognize that it's easier to accept the support when I'm in a better headspace, but when I am not in a good headspace at all, it tends to bring me down even further. I'm pretty sure if I want it to change, I'm going to have to work on my own things, rather than expecting the rest of the world to know that I don't want their comments.2 -
SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
They saw you struggling and thought by offering some words of encouragement it would cheer you up and give you a boost to keep going.They thought they were doing a good thing. I think that's nice, and most people wouldn't mind. Personally i wouldn't do it, but that's just me, i don't do this sort of things.
However yesterday, after having spent 2 days feeling crappy (fever, chills,headache) from having the COVID vaccine,before i went for my long run , i asked my husband to tell me i can do it, cause i felt i would probably give up half way and would have to walk the rest of the way home.He told me i could do it ,and off i went. Would i have done it anyway even if he hadn't told me?Yes .Did i feel better knowing he believed in me? yes i did..
And i did consider stopping multiple times, but i'm so lazy that i didn't want to have to walk all that way back home (it was a chilly morning).
So i'd say,if a comment is well meant, accept it and move on doing your thing.
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I just started running again for the first time since 2010 after a pretty horrific knee injury left me in permanent pain. Starting slowly but realising I was wrong when I thought I'd never run again is so thrilling!3
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lottiecatte wrote: »I just started running again for the first time since 2010 after a pretty horrific knee injury left me in permanent pain. Starting slowly but realising I was wrong when I thought I'd never run again is so thrilling!
Congrats! Happy for you!1 -
SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
All I can say is that you better grow thicker skin if you ever run a long race because you will hear alot of that. I appreciate it, because at least they're noticing that I'm still in the race. I ran a trail Marathon in June and I had about 30 people, at least, makes comments. I don't take offence to it and I'm not embarrassed by myself, though, either. Sounds like it's your issue, not theirs. You could always ignore them if it bothers you so much.
Edited to add: These comments were from other runners, but add even more to that when you factor in the spectators' comments.1 -
I've been in races and am quite used to people commenting/cheering/etc, and understand this, but this was a training run, not a race. I guess I was seeing it as being at the gym; I wouldn't go up to someone during their workout and start commenting to them about their workout. Maybe I need to get a treadmill to have my workout to myself, but I also like to be outside.0
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@SwtHedgehog - If you've got a place to put a treadmill, and can afford it, absolutely I'd recommend it. Go do other outdoor things for the vitamin D. My treadmill is the best investment I've ever made! This winter the bearings in the roller went out, and I was DEVASTATED for the 3 weeks I waited for Amazon to deliver new bearings. I had to run out in the ice and snow! I was nearly hit by a car! I really enjoyed the temperature, though - surprisingly. I thought it might be too cold, but it turns out I have more tolerance for cold while exercising than I previously thought. The bearings from Amazon didn't last too long, and I wound up buying a replacement roller from Sole. But I've just bought another set of bearings, too - to have on hand, so I can quickly repair the roller, even if it's a short-term fix. It will last long enough to get another new roller!0
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I usually run outside and it's been amazing for my immune system, i haven't been sick in years. But yeah, i've been at it for years and my body is used to it, still a good way to burn some calories. I'm slow runner and i usually run 7-10 km 3-5 times a week, more when i got time and less when it's really bad weather.
Running is awesome and it saved my life in many ways. Mentally i'm improved a lot too so it's not just physical.2 -
Started running at the ripe old age of 43 March of this year (barely could run a 0.25 mile continuously) and did my first 10K in June and it was hot. Going to try for a half marathon in October... Longest run so far is just over 10K.. so got to step it up...3
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I love running outside in the winter; one of my favorite races is the St. Paul Securian Run the last weekend in January. I didn't make it this year because of Covid, but I'm looking forward to it next year.1
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I haven't raced in the winter, yet. The first race of the season is usually the Bank of America Shamrock Shuffle, in Chicago - it's generally pretty chilly for standing around in the corrals, but I've always enjoyed the race itself. My last race of the season is usually a Turkey Trot - on Thanksgiving Day. The past few years, I've run in Palatine, because they host a 5 mile run - the longest distance I can find locally on Turkey Day, itself. I am disappointed in Roselle, who named their race "Exploding Turkey Trot" because it was intended to fund their 4th of July Fireworks - but renamed it after only a few years. Now it's the "Turkey Tango" which I just can't get excited about. Last year I ran a virtual 10k. It wasn't the same, at all.
I guess maybe I should look for some winter races. Something that I can do packet pickup the day before and not stand around before the race for too long...
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SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
@SwtHedgehog Reading this the entire time I thought that was helpful. I know I’ve offered “supportive” comments to other runners and have always considered them coming from a positive place. It’s entirely up to the listener on if it’s positive or not. I guess my thought is that it’s nice to see people out there working (some days they are having great days, other days not) but as long as they are making effort they are winning. I know when I’m struggling on a run it’s nice to hear a supportive comment from someone else working at their goals. They could be faster, slower, sprinting, walking, it’s just nice to hear them saying positive things. Hopefully you can find a place to run that supports you.
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@jennypapage 💯 agree with thisjennypapage wrote: »SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
They saw you struggling and thought by offering some words of encouragement it would cheer you up and give you a boost to keep going.They thought they were doing a good thing. I think that's nice, and most people wouldn't mind. Personally i wouldn't do it, but that's just me, i don't do this sort of things.
However yesterday, after having spent 2 days feeling crappy (fever, chills,headache) from having the COVID vaccine,before i went for my long run , i asked my husband to tell me i can do it, cause i felt i would probably give up half way and would have to walk the rest of the way home.He told me i could do it ,and off i went. Would i have done it anyway even if he hadn't told me?Yes .Did i feel better knowing he believed in me? yes i did..
And i did consider stopping multiple times, but i'm so lazy that i didn't want to have to walk all that way back home (it was a chilly morning).
So i'd say,if a comment is well meant, accept it and move on doing your thing.
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@lottiecatte congrats. Enjoy every mile of it 😁😁lottiecatte wrote: »I just started running again for the first time since 2010 after a pretty horrific knee injury left me in permanent pain. Starting slowly but realising I was wrong when I thought I'd never run again is so thrilling!
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dethstar77 wrote: »Started running at the ripe old age of 43 March of this year (barely could run a 0.25 mile continuously) and did my first 10K in June and it was hot. Going to try for a half marathon in October... Longest run so far is just over 10K.. so got to step it up...
@dethstar77 that’s awesome. Congrats on your progress and keep at it 👍🏻👍🏻😁😁
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@SwtHedgehog That’s cool, I almost tried that race two years ago 😁😁SwtHedgehog wrote: »I love running outside in the winter; one of my favorite races is the St. Paul Securian Run the last weekend in January. I didn't make it this year because of Covid, but I'm looking forward to it next year.
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MikeRunsDaily2021 wrote: »
@SwtHedgehog That’s cool, I almost tried that race two years ago 😁😁SwtHedgehog wrote: »I love running outside in the winter; one of my favorite races is the St. Paul Securian Run the last weekend in January. I didn't make it this year because of Covid, but I'm looking forward to it next year.
It's a fun race, and too be superficial, the race packet is awesome. Before the race, you get your bib and shirt (always very nice). After the race, you get a bag and go down the line, like Halloween.
The only thing I still haven't figured out is the chili samples before the race. I have never had any, it just feels like a bad idea.0 -
SwtHedgehog wrote: »MikeRunsDaily2021 wrote: »
@SwtHedgehog That’s cool, I almost tried that race two years ago 😁😁SwtHedgehog wrote: »I love running outside in the winter; one of my favorite races is the St. Paul Securian Run the last weekend in January. I didn't make it this year because of Covid, but I'm looking forward to it next year.
It's a fun race, and too be superficial, the race packet is awesome. Before the race, you get your bib and shirt (always very nice). After the race, you get a bag and go down the line, like Halloween.
The only thing I still haven't figured out is the chili samples before the race. I have never had any, it just feels like a bad idea.
@SwtHedgehog that’s awesome. Very good sounding race. Want chilli before the races??? 🤣🤣🤣 I don’t think so 🤣🤣🤣
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SwtHedgehog wrote: »Sorry that this is probably more of a vent, but why do people think it's okay to comment on my run performance (or lack of) when I'm out on the bike/run/recreation trail? I was on my long run today and it already wasn't going well as I was having stomach issues before starting the run, and my shoe was rubbing me the wrong way and my heart rate was spiking.
A woman who was walking of all things, decided to comment to me that I'm moving faster than her and then later, a biker had to tell me something along the lines of keep at it or you'll get there or something like that.
I'm sure (or hoping) they were thinking they were doing well by giving me encouragement, but it only makes me feel worse because it just feels like pitty talk, like they think I'm going to just give up. It just draws attention to my many years of bad experiences with running.
But out of all this, I found out that I feel much more at peace when running the offshoot grass/dirt trails; my heart rate stays down, my legs don't hurt as much, I forget about everything else, and I don't constantly look at my Garmin to see how much longer my run segments is. I just get lost in the moment and go with the flow.
During the Pittsburgh Marathon a few years ago my knee had enough by mile 18 and I was forced to run/walk (mostly walk) the last 8 miles. It took me as long to finish the last 6 as it did to run the first 18 (and they were slower than normal). Now I'm used to finishing races in the top 10-15% of the pack. This day I was nearly last. As I was making my way thru the streets I heard all kinds of 'encouragement'. All it really did was piss me off. This was the worst run/race of my life and all I could do was smile and nod.
This year after dealing with injury and lack of motivation, I ran a mile race in my home turf. I must have heard people shouting my name 50 times over that mile. I loved it. The encouragement made me faster. I'm sure of it.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is 'it depends'. It depends on the situation how encouraging words are taken. Sometimes they really can help while other times they don't. The problem is that random strangers do not know what kind of day your having.
I'll keep giving out encouragement and nodding when others give it too me. At the end of the day I think it helps more than anything. It builds the community2 -
I’m coming up to two years after fracturing my patella and I’m still pacing pretty strong. I was so lucky it didn’t end up being too serious.
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@amorfati601070 I’d say that’sa great pace 👍🏻👍🏻amorfati601070 wrote: »I’m coming up to two years after fracturing my patella and I’m still pacing pretty strong. I was so lucky it didn’t end up being too serious.
Couple days ago.
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