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I've had TWO coffees and I still don't understand PAV's post.
Anyway...the biggest problem with all these posts that are meant for the RD....
The OP never comes back to any of them. People are responding and trying to help, but I don't know that the OP is seeing any of it.2 -
You are SOOOOO RIGHT!!!!!!!! And the *BEST* Calories to eat back are the ones MFP has already assigned for daily activity during the same time frame! That's like your double eat back bonus! Rhymes with the reverse of Apple Watch's ability to integrate with MFP but almost the same when it comes to absolute values!
Let's see if my coffee works 🙀🤷🏻♂️🤞
We're together on eating back the exercise calories assigned to the time frame as opposed to doing something silly like discounting your exercise calories to the actual amount of extra ones that you spent.
I called that double eat back bonus, but for many people it will work to eating twice the base calories for the time frame.
Apple watch when synchronized directly seems to often list the exercises correctly, but because the value they send to mfp is not TDEE the final integration result of the increased exercises is a reduction in total calories to eat. The more you exercise the less you get to eat. So this is the reverse.
But as an absolute value almost the same size of an effect.... not exactly same size; but close👍
Hmm.... I've given me a headache!😹
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I've had TWO coffees and I still don't understand PAV's post.
Anyway...the biggest problem with all these posts that are meant for the RD....
The OP never comes back to any of them. People are responding and trying to help, but I don't know that the OP is seeing any of it.
Y'know, I don't mostly worry about that. Maybe the OP reads it. Maybe some other person reads it, gets some good out of what we post.
Maybe no one reads it, all it does is clarify and reinforce issues around eating/activity in my own silly brain. (I have a firm belief that my routine thinking patterns become more internalized in who I am day to day - like ruts in the cognitive road that it's easier to stay in than drive out of into unexplored and unfamiliar territory. That "ruts" effect can be a good thing, or bad, depending on the specifics.)
I didn't understand PAV, either, unless all he meant by "the *BEST* Calories to eat back are the ones MFP has already assigned for daily activity during the same time frame! That's like your double eat back bonus!" was that getting the right calories is good, and timing them around activity can have benefits. Dunno. That was opaque, to me. PAV often thinks things my brain isn't subtle enough to handle.
Zero idea by what he meant by "Rhymes with the reverse of Apple Watch's ability to integrate with MFP but almost the same when it comes to absolute values!". I try not to think about Apple any more than minimally necessary. Based on my career background, I think they're extra-special techno-fascists, and I don't want to encourage them. (Yes, that's extreme. I have reasons.)1 -
You are SOOOOO RIGHT!!!!!!!! And the *BEST* Calories to eat back are the ones MFP has already assigned for daily activity during the same time frame! That's like your double eat back bonus! Rhymes with the reverse of Apple Watch's ability to integrate with MFP but almost the same when it comes to absolute values!
Let's see if my coffee works 🙀🤷🏻♂️🤞
We're together on eating back the exercise calories assigned to the time frame as opposed to doing something silly like discounting your exercise calories to the actual amount of extra ones that you spent.
I called that double eat back bonus, but for many people it will work to eating twice the base calories for the time frame.
Apple watch when synchronized directly seems to often list the exercises correctly, but because the value they send to mfp is not TDEE the final integration result of the increased exercises is a reduction in total calories to eat. The more you exercise the less you get to eat. So this is the reverse.
But as an absolute value almost the same size of an effect.... not exactly same size; but close👍
Hmm.... I've given me a headache!😹
Are you talking about the extra 1 MET MFP applies via the values in the exercise database? I'm still confused.
Sometimes, posts here go beyond the bounds of audience comprehension. It can be the post, the audience, or a combination. In this case, I'm still a little fuzzy about intent.
Communication is a two (or more) party dance. Can we dance?1 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »I am pretty new here, but I read carefully and I have already figured out that if you eat it really really fast you can take some of the calories off for exercise (that’s what everyone means when they say “eat back calories”)
You're a quick learner!
Maybe I'm the one who's gonne off the reservation because of course that's entirely possible as we all know.
But all my suggestion were along the lines of suggesting that eating really fast results in exercise calories.
So yes I am talking about the double count of 1.25 to 1.8 MET (depending on selected activity level) when it comes to exercise.
And about removing exercise from sedentary values instead of TDEE when it comes to the watch1 -
I unfortunately know exactly what @PAV8888 means cause MFP hit me for a 386 calorie “negative calorie” deduction yesterday because I had a full exercise schedule.
Yet Sunday, when I had a day of rest, and just did a few walks, it only hit me for 35.
It’s a massive brain *kitten* for some of us.
That being said, chai and pastry calories don’t count when your dog dragged you in to the bakery in the first place for a doggy squirrel cookie.
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Dang. I always forget that it's an extra "activity level worth" of METs. You're right, as always. It is. Not just one.
I know what the Apple thing does, more or less. I just didn't get the "rhymes with" thing. Was that literal, or a metaphor?0 -
I think I'm having a whoosh. I went so often to the loo last night and today that it's unreal. I guess the restless sleep and all the loo-walking accounts for a few 100 kcal extra, right? Right? I don't want to hear anything else than Yes from you all.3
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Yes, Yes, YES!1
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I think I'm having a whoosh. I went so often to the loo last night and today that it's unreal. I guess the restless sleep and all the loo-walking accounts for a few 100 kcal extra, right? Right? I don't want to hear anything else than Yes from you all.
Yes...whoosh away, my leetle green lambie.
@springlering62 this is the cutest!!! 2 -
@yirara
Sorry, only if your not menopausal or pre menopausal. But on to more important and metaphysical things …. Does a cheat day count if I don’t write it down?
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That is the most patient dog…clearly burning concentration calories for both of you.springlering62 wrote: »I unfortunately know exactly what @PAV8888 means cause MFP hit me for a 386 calorie “negative calorie” deduction yesterday because I had a full exercise schedule.
Yet Sunday, when I had a day of rest, and just did a few walks, it only hit me for 35.
It’s a massive brain *kitten* for some of us.
That being said, chai and pastry calories don’t count when your dog dragged you in to the bakery in the first place for a doggy squirrel cookie.
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But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯3 -
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And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….2
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Left handed Barbie you're one astute and clearly "on the ball" individual; albeit without a squirrel cookie 'cause that one went to the tethered fluffy above!0
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Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔0 -
Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »@yirara
Sorry, only if your not menopausal or pre menopausal. But on to more important and metaphysical things …. Does a cheat day count if I don’t write it down?
SO basically it counts as I'm on the contraceptive pill that hides all menos, pause or not. Win!1 -
But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯
Wait. There are actually non-R-rated threads in Chit Chat? I have had it blocked for years. Maybe I need to give it another chance.
What about calories sleep-walking? I'm sure that one has been covered.
Now for a real question. Why do people have so much trouble logging eggs, pasta and rice? It seems to be a super common issue...maybe I'll ask the dietician. Is today the day she answers??
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cmriverside wrote: »But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯
Wait. There are actually non-R-rated threads in Chit Chat? I have had it blocked for years. Maybe I need to give it another chance.
What about calories sleep-walking? I'm sure that one has been covered.
Now for a real question. Why do people have so much trouble logging eggs, pasta and rice? It seems to be a super common issue...maybe I'll ask the dietician. Is today the day she answers??
Oh please ask and come back to us. At least I'm super curious because I must be doing something wrong as I've not encountered these problems yet.1 -
Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔
It depends if you put peanut butter on it or not.5 -
Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔
It depends if you put peanut butter on it or not.
You are a quick study. Well played.1 -
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cmriverside wrote: »But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯
Wait. There are actually non-R-rated threads in Chit Chat? I have had it blocked for years. Maybe I need to give it another chance.
What about calories sleep-walking? I'm sure that one has been covered.
Now for a real question. Why do people have so much trouble logging eggs, pasta and rice? It seems to be a super common issue...maybe I'll ask the dietician. Is today the day she answers??
The "ask the dietician thread" has been locked for new questions.
Anyone notice an amusing trend in her answers?1 -
cmriverside wrote: »But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯
Wait. There are actually non-R-rated threads in Chit Chat? I have had it blocked for years. Maybe I need to give it another chance.
What about calories sleep-walking? I'm sure that one has been covered.
Now for a real question. Why do people have so much trouble logging eggs, pasta and rice? It seems to be a super common issue...maybe I'll ask the dietician. Is today the day she answers??
Carrot cake at 5 AM definitely has no calories.
In fact, the whole cake has no calories because my brother ripped into it before I could frost and weigh it >.<2 -
Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔
Is that like a pecan log?
Far too many, I’m afraid.2 -
springlering62 wrote: »Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔
Is that like a pecan log?
Far too many, I’m afraid.
Good news! Pecans are zero calories these days!
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kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »But is that pre or post menopausal concentration calories? Because we've clearly established in another thread that premenopausal hormonal behaviors are absolutely known and taken into account by their body owners 😹😘
OMG, maybe this is why the chit-chat section exists🤔 🙀🥺🤬🤯
Wait. There are actually non-R-rated threads in Chit Chat? I have had it blocked for years. Maybe I need to give it another chance.
What about calories sleep-walking? I'm sure that one has been covered.
Now for a real question. Why do people have so much trouble logging eggs, pasta and rice? It seems to be a super common issue...maybe I'll ask the dietician. Is today the day she answers??
The "ask the dietician thread" has been locked for new questions.
Anyone notice an amusing trend in her answers?
Didn't read it, but noticed that Vanilla went kerflooey for a while. I wondered if the servers got overloaded.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »And perhaps a cheat day is excused if the dog ate my calorie log ….
I wonder how many calories there are in a calorie log? 🤔
Is that like a pecan log?
Far too many, I’m afraid.
Good news! Pecans are zero calories these days!
Important Notation: Those are chopped nuts. Must be chopped to be zero.
Nuts, 1 cup 280 calories2
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