I Ate 1500cals at Once Last Night - WTH?
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I have symptoms of hypoglycemia if I don't eat regularly, though I am not a diabetic. While I can understand how the OP felt, I also agree with taking responsibility. It causes me to plan better.
It's just one day. Deal with it, move on, and plan better in the future.
FYI for the people who keep commenting on logging what i ate. Take a look - it's been logged!0 -
[quoteNothing to do with that. When u have a low blood sugar, you're brain doesn't function properly. You can cry, laugh and get mad all in 2 minutes together. But u do know that you have to eat to get your sugar back up and sometimes diabetics go crazy and eat alot to get the sugar up. To avoid this, drinking oj or apple juice works best because it works fast. Last night i didn't have access to that.
I'm not hypoglycemic or nothin, but I'm pretty sure that having low blood sugar doesn't mean you need to eat until you puke.
Ur right, it doesn't BUT it's really hard to control when u are basically out of your mind - a fellow diabetic would understand completely.
I wonder if there are any groups for diabetics on MFP that you can post in...They may be able to understand and help you better:flowerforyou:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/9731-weight-loss-for-diabetics
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/1772-type-2-diabetes-support-group
there were pages upon pages of groups like this. if you want feedback from people who "understand" then this is a topic better aimed at those people.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/512-diabetes-prediabetes-and-insulin-resistance
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/1357-young-and-diabetic
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/9637-the-skinny-on-obesity
JOIN ONE OR ALL OF THESE GROUPS AND POST THERE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH WHAT YOU DEAL WITH CAN GIVE YOU ADVICE. I AM SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
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the only relevant group to me is the first one. Thanks0 -
Some one said that if i cook the meat myself then it's not processed???? My butter ball turkey was cooked by me......the only way i see that turkey processed is from the grocery store packing it and maybe some added preservatives. i dunno???
Other than the diabetes do you have any diagnosed illnesses? Your hyperfocus on clean eating, your self-flagellation, and your forum posts all concern me.
There are a lot of problems that can come with diabetes.......... as for other diagnosis - hypothyroidism.0 -
FYI for the people who keep commenting on logging what i ate. Take a look - it's been logged!
Good Job? I think you've been given some good suggestions in this topic, so I suggest you take some of them in the very least. FWIW I know diabetics who do similar things to the things that are suggested and they seemt handle things quite well, even in considering such periods of irrational behavior.0 -
Today is new. You haven't done any real harm. You have options to keep this from happening, at least most of the time. I'm sure you don't feel great about it, but it really isn't a big deal. You aren't perfect....even if it wasn't this, you would probably have a day at some point where you didn't meet your goal. I would just move on.
ETA: For the record, I think you made a good choice in logging it. It isn't about shame; it's about tracking. I hope today goes better for you.0 -
First of all, I know why I did it. I got a low blood sugar from too much insulin taken (Im T1 diabetic) and I lost control for treating the low. I went wayyy over board and wasn't thinking right. The only thing on my mind was stuff face until this "low" feeling went away. I know thats not how im supposed to do it but hey, i am still human and i did it. Now, what im wondering is 1500 cal overload gonna set me back anyway? Like have to wait a week longer to reach my goal or just screw it and move on - nothing i can do?
I have hypoglycemia and am prone to those blood sugar bonks from hell as well. Not much you can do. Just start again tomorrow!0 -
My friend no worries, just a slip. I've been way above my allowance at least for the last month. A lot of parties with a lot of alcohol involved and of course trashy food. Anyways my weight has bounced between 94 and 91 Kilos. I gotta be honest I could have lost at least 2 more kilos but I had fun and that's what matters. I worked out everyday tho. It did not battle the extra calories but kept your metabolism up and running.
Sooo bottomline, just pass it and keep on going. I like the analogy with the marathon, just keep going
Cheers0 -
I have symptoms of hypoglycemia if I don't eat regularly, though I am not a diabetic. While I can understand how the OP felt, I also agree with taking responsibility. It causes me to plan better.
It's just one day. Deal with it, move on, and plan better in the future.
FYI for the people who keep commenting on logging what i ate. Take a look - it's been logged!
Good job on being honest with yourself (because it only matters what you think of your food choices). Don't be ashamed of food.
Your diabetes is not going to change. The food industry is not going to significantly change. Both are always going to be there, and you need to learn to come to terms with both, and come to terms with the fact that anything you do is still your responsibility, even if you 'can't help it'.
The people I see racking up huge losses and meeting goal after goal, day after day (I'll include myself in those ranks, if I can be so bold), have two things in common -
1. They admitted to themselves that it was their behavior - not certain foods, not medical conditions - that made them fat.
2. They structured a way of eating that works for their personal situation. They have worked with their body, tastes and schedules, not against them. They have learned to function within the 21st century food environment.
Diabetes must suck. And I've never experienced it, so I can't know exactly what you went through. But I have my own food demons, and I have learned to work my diet around them. I developed coping strategies, and so must you.
Throwing your hands in the air and shouting "I screwed up so bad, but I couldn't help it, have I ruined everything?!" just isn't a constructive attitude. Perhaps instead you should be asking the diabetes forum for advice on how to properly regulate your sugar levels to reduce the chances of it happening again, and how to put together a small 'emergency pack' of appropriate foods to use when it inevitably does happen again.
I genuinely wish you every success, and I hope you take these suggestions to heart.0 -
The problem here isn't that you ate 1800 calories in one sitting, thus blowing by your goal.
The problem is that you're not taking responsibility for it. You're blaming it on low blood sugar, which is absurd. You "weren't in your right mind" or "when you have low blood sugar you need to eat" or whatever.
No. You messed up and binged. It had nothing to do with your blood sugar. You decided to stuff your face. Own that decision.
I guess you have never experienced seriously low blood sugar.
Experiments have now confirmed what the hypoglycemic person experiences. Low blood sugar triggers hunger -- especially carbohydrate craving. In addition, the brain is starved for its preferred fuel: glucose. At rest, the brain consumes one-third of the body's total glucose requirement. The brain is a hungry, rapidly metabolizing organ, and fuel shortages in it create problems with concentration, memory, and mood. A recent study showed that individuals with low blood sugar scored poorly on tasks requiring memory, concentration, and reasoning.
But perhaps most important, low blood sugar triggers an outpouring of counterregulatory hormones (catecholamines) from the adrenals. These hormones oppose the action of insulin and push blood sugar levels back up. Unfortunately for the hypoglycemic person, these "rescue" hormones are the very same ones that produce the adrenaline rush of a fight-or-flight reaction. The results are symptoms like palpitations, sweaty palms, nervousness, tremor, and sometimes even severe panic attacks.
It ain't no picnic. Your brain is starved of glucose and you truly are NOT able to think clearly. Your body is screaming for food and as quickly as possible.0 -
Why are you ignoring the posts to join the groups for diabetics?
Then she'd lose the wide audience that give attention to nonsensical threads.0 -
The problem here isn't that you ate 1800 calories in one sitting, thus blowing by your goal.
The problem is that you're not taking responsibility for it. You're blaming it on low blood sugar, which is absurd. You "weren't in your right mind" or "when you have low blood sugar you need to eat" or whatever.
No. You messed up and binged. It had nothing to do with your blood sugar. You decided to stuff your face. Own that decision.
I guess you have never experienced seriously low blood sugar.
Experiments have now confirmed what the hypoglycemic person experiences. Low blood sugar triggers hunger -- especially carbohydrate craving. In addition, the brain is starved for its preferred fuel: glucose. At rest, the brain consumes one-third of the body's total glucose requirement. The brain is a hungry, rapidly metabolizing organ, and <b>fuel shortages in it create problems with concentration, memory, and mood. A recent study showed that individuals with low blood sugar scored poorly on tasks requiring memory, concentration, and reasoning.</b>
But perhaps most important, low blood sugar triggers an outpouring of counterregulatory hormones (catecholamines) from the adrenals. These hormones oppose the action of insulin and push blood sugar levels back up. Unfortunately for the hypoglycemic person, these "rescue" hormones are the very same ones that produce the adrenaline rush of a fight-or-flight reaction. The results are symptoms like<b> palpitations, sweaty palms, nervousness, tremor, and sometimes even severe panic attacks.
It ain't no picnic. Your brain is starved of glucose and your body over rides your normal cognitive mechanisms in order to procure that glucose.
So what you're saying is . . . I need to stop going to bars to pick up women, but just start carrying candy and looking for hot, symptomatic diabetics?0 -
If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.0 -
If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.
Don't hold back there, say what you really think :laugh:0 -
If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.
You clearly don't understand the guessing game that is diabetes. You eat a meal, and then inject. But if you under or overestimate by even a little your blood sugar shoots up, or you crash. It is a daily ongoing struggle, and I'm dismayed at the lack of basic understanding of the mechanisms at play here.
It is not a matter of fault, except perhaps one could blame the diabetes. But certainly, even the most careful of diabetics run into problems from time to time. Perhaps you learn a little about the disease before you start throwing stones.0 -
I'm a Type 1 diabetic and I would binge whether I had low blood sugar or not. I used to beat myself up over it. I realized, I won't get to my goal if I stress about it, so I evaluated why I got the low blood sugar so it wouldn't happen again. Use it as a learning tool.
I vote for this as the best advice. Both 1) avoid low blood sugar 2) make sure you keep juice around if that's the best way to resolve the issue. If you mess up and aren't able to do 1 and 2 once in a blue moon, then it's a blip and don't worry about it.0 -
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If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.
You clearly don't understand the guessing game that is diabetes. You eat a meal, and then inject. But if you under or overestimate by even a little your blood sugar shoots up, or you crash. It is a daily ongoing struggle, and I'm dismayed at the lack of basic understanding of the mechanisms at play here.
It is not a matter of fault, except perhaps one could blame the diabetes. But certainly, even the most careful of diabetics run into problems from time to time. Perhaps you learn a little about the disease before you start throwing stones.
Everything you've said is completely true, I am sure. I won't question as you clearly know more about diabetes than I do.
But the point remains that everything you do is your responsibility - whatever the reason. Ironically the only person saying that she should be ashamed of what she did, is the OP. We're just saying 'accept that it happened, accept that you could have done something different, and learn from it'. It's the denial, and avoidance of responsibility that has people riled up.0 -
Forgive yourself, because you're worth that. But don't forget, so that the next time this happens (should it happen), you can put a stop to it before you go overboard.
Be good and kind to yourself.0 -
Barbara,
To prevent this fro happeneing again. Keep glucose tablets in your house and take 4-8 depending on your blood sugar. You can also use honey (one tablespoon =15 grams carb) or 8 ounces of skim milk if you don't have juice. I don't think people binge on honey and skim milk.
Good luck to you and try to log everything. Your journal is just for you.0 -
Oh man, a couple weeks back I had a piece of ribeye that was at least 1700 calories on its own.
So good.
Always acceptable to go over for ribeye!!
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If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.
You clearly don't understand the guessing game that is diabetes. You eat a meal, and then inject. But if you under or overestimate by even a little your blood sugar shoots up, or you crash. It is a daily ongoing struggle, and I'm dismayed at the lack of basic understanding of the mechanisms at play here.
It is not a matter of fault, except perhaps one could blame the diabetes. But certainly, even the most careful of diabetics run into problems from time to time. Perhaps you learn a little about the disease before you start throwing stones.
Right, because 90% of diabetes treatment isn't about preparation and understanding. Yes sometimes **** just happens, most of the time however there are any number of steps that can be taken to help someone control their sugar issues. Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"0 -
A bit like flying a plane while refusing to look at some of the instruments. :noway:Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"0 -
Right, because 90% of diabetes treatment isn't about preparation and understanding. Yes sometimes **** just happens, most of the time however there are any number of steps that can be taken to help someone control their sugar issues. Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"
But why log the binge? It serves no purpose. The reason for the binge, was a bottomed out blood sugar episode. She has already addressed why that happened and what kind of drinks she needs to keep on hand for the next time. Logging binge foods is only helpful when you binge due to certain food triggers. A binge after low blood sugar is simply the body's emergency response to a serious medical event. It has nothing to do with food triggers.0 -
But why log the binge?
Because "I'm not logging that because I'm ashamed and scared of it" is such a healthy behavior and attitude.0 -
Right, because 90% of diabetes treatment isn't about preparation and understanding. Yes sometimes **** just happens, most of the time however there are any number of steps that can be taken to help someone control their sugar issues. Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"
But why log the binge? It serves no purpose. The reason for the binge, was a bottomed out blood sugar episode. She has already addressed why that happened and what kind of drinks she needs to keep on hand for the next time. Logging binge foods is only helpful when you binge due to certain food triggers. A binge after low blood sugar is simply the body's emergency response to a serious medical event. It has nothing to do with food triggers.
It serves as a record of how much she ate this week, and she can see any corresponding results in weight gain/loss, etc. Maybe she might want to eat just a little bit less the next few days or exercise more to try to offset the binge. It is still useful to log it even if it is not about identifying a trigger. In several weeks, she can look back and see the record and see how it affected her weight.0 -
I don't lose any weight. My body is stuck between 150-155lbs so i just eat right and lift heavy. See what happens.0
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I would go ahead and delete the "Quick Add Calories" and actually log what it was you ate last night. Be more accountable to yourself.
NO! I don't want too. It bothers me what I ate. I need to try my best to avoid lows because they are what cause my bingeing.
Even though you had a really high calorie dinner, your diary only shows you were over goal by about 1000 calories. That's less than 1/3 lb (3500 cal = 1 lb). Just get back on track and move on.0 -
But why log the binge?
Because "I'm not logging that because I'm ashamed and scared of it" is such a healthy behavior and attitude.
1. She wrote that "it bothers her what she ate". Engaging in a little creative journalism there?
2. She did log it, since everyone was so insistent that she did.
Your point??0 -
If you ate properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you dosed your insulin properly your sugar might not have gone low. If you were properly prepared for lows like a responsible adult then you would not have binged. If you were paying attention to your own damn body you would have realized you were getting low and eaten something before you were out of your mind.
Now, as you did none of the above which are all preventative, the sugar going low was your own damn fault. Own it, learn from it and move on. You have bigger issues than a one night binge.
You clearly don't understand the guessing game that is diabetes. You eat a meal, and then inject. But if you under or overestimate by even a little your blood sugar shoots up, or you crash. It is a daily ongoing struggle, and I'm dismayed at the lack of basic understanding of the mechanisms at play here.
It is not a matter of fault, except perhaps one could blame the diabetes. But certainly, even the most careful of diabetics run into problems from time to time. Perhaps you learn a little about the disease before you start throwing stones.
Right, because 90% of diabetes treatment isn't about preparation and understanding. Yes sometimes **** just happens, most of the time however there are any number of steps that can be taken to help someone control their sugar issues. Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"
Not logging on MFP =/= not being honest with oneself. Her diary is open to the public. Maybe she just doesn't want the judgey people that like to curse at others for their mishaps to jump all over her little mishap.'
She clearly IS been honest. She posted the calories and a post about the binge. What difference does it make which foods she ate?0 -
Right, because 90% of diabetes treatment isn't about preparation and understanding. Yes sometimes **** just happens, most of the time however there are any number of steps that can be taken to help someone control their sugar issues. Part of living with any long term health problem is being honest with yourself and as OP won't even log what the binge was illustrates the whole "bigger issues than just a one night binge"
But why log the binge? It serves no purpose. The reason for the binge, was a bottomed out blood sugar episode. She has already addressed why that happened and what kind of drinks she needs to keep on hand for the next time. Logging binge foods is only helpful when you binge due to certain food triggers. A binge after low blood sugar is simply the body's emergency response to a serious medical event. It has nothing to do with food triggers.
For several reasons -
1. Your diary should be an accurate reflection of what you put in your body. Disassociating the two leads to denial and thinking that only things you logged actually went into your body. That little voice in the back of your head that says that as long as your diary reflects what you wanted to do it's ok - even if you did eat that thousand calories of cookies. And yes, that precise voice has spoken in my head, and I shut it up and logged the cookies.
2. It turns blood sugar into a re-usable excuse. Trust me, the threshold for what will be considered an understandable slip will drop and drop. Eventually you'll be yelling 'blood sugar!' every time you see a piece of cake.
3. Because the OP needs to start coming to terms with food, and having a healthier relationship with it. There is nothing wrong with eating poptarts, if it's within your calorie and macros limits, and you've met your micros through nutritious food elsewhere. I dare say that if the OP had been a little more permissive with food in the past, this binge wouldn't have been half as bad, and would have been easier to stop when the obvious physiological need was met.0
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