Learn What it means to "Eat Clean"

BeachGingerOnTheRocks

eating clean gave me ebola.

eating pizza and pop tarts cured me.

my anecdotal evidence is just as good as anyone else's.

I just ate a whole frozen Kashi pizza.

I feel clean and dirty all at the same time.

jvbrooks

Reminds me of a conversation I heard in a store.

Customer: "The package says all natural?"
Clerk: "Yeah?"
Customer: "So why do you add sodium chloride? And what the hell is sodium bicarbonate!?!"
Clerk: "Salt. And Baking Soda."

Everyone knows salt isn't natural! It's da devil.

OP has a point, though. Why we haven't banned dihydrogen monoxide yet is a mystery.


Dihydrogen monoxide:

is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
is fatal if inhaled.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of Styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

Cranquistador

In with a mouthful of chocolate.

LiftAllThePizzas

Clean eating is just a euphemism for orthorexia.

Cranquistador

Honestly, I think that is up to the individual, dont you? What sort of means do you have or are willing to do? How important or unimportant are making beans?
I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.
Everyone situation is different. I know plenty of friend who were not raised in an environment that did not consume twinkies, doritos or cheese puffs on a continual basis and there for need a bit of guidance when looking to make a change in eating habits.
I agree with what you are saying, and i think giving a good baseline is what is important. A basic understanding of what it means to eat healthy - if you dont like the term, leave it out:)

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

lolNO

gabbygirl78

I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.

Hey, I get it. You have an opinion about this. But let's just agree that this statement is highly debatable. Please don't communicate it as if it's Truth.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds..

For the sake of avoiding arguments, let's just leave it at eating whole foods. We can all agree that nutrient-dense foods are generally preferable.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

I'm honestly shocked that organic chemists live past 40.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

Again, at best this is debatable.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

The whole rev'ing up your metabolism thing has been debunked into massive oblivion by now. But it if helps you control your meals and feel sated, go for it.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

All in for cooking at home. I dislike doing it, but it's much easier to log things accurately when I'm the one weighing things out.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you.
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I'm sorry but it really seems like you may be trying to get this thread locked. Was this necessary? To give a negative between every "quote" just to end it with " Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you" These forums are generally to share what has worked for others and it is common knowledge that what works for one may not work for others. It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up! My comment starts at I'm sorry... I don't know why the other stuff isn't in quotes... the

are on there before i posted it....

TheSlorax

thanks so much OP, I was really needing an explanation on "clean eating." :flowerforyou:


unfortunately I think I am excluded from this magical diet. everyone keeps mentioning eating Whole Foods, but that place is much too expensive for me to shop at.

ThickMcRunFast

I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.

Hey, I get it. You have an opinion about this. But let's just agree that this statement is highly debatable. Please don't communicate it as if it's Truth.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds..

For the sake of avoiding arguments, let's just leave it at eating whole foods. We can all agree that nutrient-dense foods are generally preferable.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

I'm honestly shocked that organic chemists live past 40.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

Again, at best this is debatable.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

The whole rev'ing up your metabolism thing has been debunked into massive oblivion by now. But it if helps you control your meals and feel sated, go for it.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

All in for cooking at home. I dislike doing it, but it's much easier to log things accurately when I'm the one weighing things out.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you.

I'm sorry but it really seems like you may be trying to get this thread locked. Was this necessary? To give a negative between every "quote" just to end it with " Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you" These forums are generally to share what has worked for others and it is common knowledge that what works for one may not work for others. It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up!

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seriously! How dare you be so mean as to bring facts to this thread?

BrainyBurro

magerum

I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.

Hey, I get it. You have an opinion about this. But let's just agree that this statement is highly debatable. Please don't communicate it as if it's Truth.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds..

For the sake of avoiding arguments, let's just leave it at eating whole foods. We can all agree that nutrient-dense foods are generally preferable.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

I'm honestly shocked that organic chemists live past 40.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

Again, at best this is debatable.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

The whole rev'ing up your metabolism thing has been debunked into massive oblivion by now. But it if helps you control your meals and feel sated, go for it.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

All in for cooking at home. I dislike doing it, but it's much easier to log things accurately when I'm the one weighing things out.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you.

I'm sorry but it really seems like you may be trying to get this thread locked. Was this necessary? To give a negative between every "quote" just to end it with " Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you" These forums are generally to share what has worked for others and it is common knowledge that what works for one may not work for others. It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up!

There's nothing "negative" in their response. Disagreement =/= negativity. Dissenting opinions are just as valid as OPs and in a public forum just as welcome. You, I think, as you said need to lighten up.

PikaKnight

I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.

Hey, I get it. You have an opinion about this. But let's just agree that this statement is highly debatable. Please don't communicate it as if it's Truth.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds..

For the sake of avoiding arguments, let's just leave it at eating whole foods. We can all agree that nutrient-dense foods are generally preferable.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

I'm honestly shocked that organic chemists live past 40.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

Again, at best this is debatable.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

The whole rev'ing up your metabolism thing has been debunked into massive oblivion by now. But it if helps you control your meals and feel sated, go for it.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

All in for cooking at home. I dislike doing it, but it's much easier to log things accurately when I'm the one weighing things out.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you.

I'm sorry but it really seems like you may be trying to get this thread locked. Was this necessary? To give a negative between every "quote" just to end it with " Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you" These forums are generally to share what has worked for others and it is common knowledge that what works for one may not work for others. It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up!

So we can't disagree or point out where things are wrong? Also, this is Food and Nutrition..not Motivation and Support. Either way, it is a public forum and people are allowed to express themselves as they want. If you take it personally/negatively - that's all on you.

SideSteel

I think that more people know how dangerous it is to consume things like diet soda and Lean cuisines to lose weight.

Hey, I get it. You have an opinion about this. But let's just agree that this statement is highly debatable. Please don't communicate it as if it's Truth.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds..

For the sake of avoiding arguments, let's just leave it at eating whole foods. We can all agree that nutrient-dense foods are generally preferable.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

I'm honestly shocked that organic chemists live past 40.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

Again, at best this is debatable.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

The whole rev'ing up your metabolism thing has been debunked into massive oblivion by now. But it if helps you control your meals and feel sated, go for it.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

All in for cooking at home. I dislike doing it, but it's much easier to log things accurately when I'm the one weighing things out.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you.

I'm sorry but it really seems like you may be trying to get this thread locked. Was this necessary? To give a negative between every "quote" just to end it with " Again, this is really just personal preference, but I'm glad it works for you"

His statement was correct. Whether or not you need some certain meal frequency or special combination of macronutrients on a per-meal basis in order to lose weight is largely preferential.

These forums are generally to share what has worked for others and it is common knowledge that what works for one may not work for others.

1) These forums are for exchanging information and the person you are quoting offered intelligent counterpoints to the OP. I didn't see any personal attacks, I saw disagreement and in my opinion, rightfully so.

2) The phrase "what works for one might not work for others" is a slippery slope. There are plenty of things that are preferential as far as weight loss goes, but it's quite easy for someone to miss the mark when it comes to identifying which of those things are entirely preferential. And it's important to recognize which items fall into that preference bucket, because quite often people will post something as if it's accepted fact, when it's clearly not.


See here for a good read on this:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up!

It upsets me even more when I see someone who can't handle a disagreement. No personal attacks were made by the person you are quoting. If someone can't handle an exchange of information without getting their feelings hurt, they shouldn't be posting. And if you'll notice, I'm not attacking you with my reply. I'm disagreeing with your information.

Have a lovely day, and good luck with your fitness goals.

Achrya

I don't get clean eating. I mean if I buy and eat



That's bad. But if I make



With stuff from whole foods or the organic section it's okay? Is it not the same damn muffin?

KelGen02

I was put on a "clean" eating regimen 6 weeks ago when the Dr took me off my Cholesterol Medication because it was causing my joints and muscles severe pain. I eat all plant food and fish... I do eat a yogurt and eggwhites but other than that it's all clean healthy eating. It was hard at first but now it's just habit and I have no desire to eat the crap or junk food. I don't eat processed foods, breads, meats or pasta... I do however, love pizza and will cheat once in a great while and have a slice or two and wash it down with a couple beers. I am by no means perfect but I am feeling much better, my skin feels good and I am sleeping like a rock!! Oh and yeah I lost 17.4lbs in 6 weeks so I am all for Clean Eating and would LOVE some recipes and meal plans if you care to share, so friend me if you want!

Thanks!
Kelly

magerum

I was put on a "clean" eating regimen 6 weeks ago when the Dr took me off my Cholesterol Medication because it was causing my joints and muscles severe pain. I eat all plant food and fish... I do eat a yogurt and eggwhites but other than that it's all clean healthy eating. It was hard at first but now it's just habit and I have no desire to eat the crap or junk food. I don't eat processed foods, breads, meats or pasta... I do however, love pizza and will cheat once in a great while and have a slice or two and wash it down with a couple beers. I am by no means perfect but I am feeling much better, my skin feels good and I am sleeping like a rock!! Oh and yeah I lost 17.4lbs in 6 weeks so I am all for Clean Eating and would LOVE some recipes and meal plans if you care to share, so friend me if you want!

Thanks!
Kelly

So egg whites and yogurt aren't even considered "Clean"? :huh:

KMasz

OP has a point, though. Why we haven't banned dihydrogen monoxide yet is a mystery.


Dihydrogen monoxide:

is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
is fatal if inhaled.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of Styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

I feel like you are missing a few uses for this "dihydrogen monoxide" you speak of. That's okay though, yes, ban away! Is there a petition I can sign?

EvanKeel

It just upsets me to see completely negative people on these threads. Everyone has an opinion and whether it is right or wrong negativity isn't going to change that persons opinion. Lighten up!

My only guess is that tone is difficult to interpret in text, and that the way you heard what I was "saying" was different than the way I intended it. I'm not going to apologize for anything because I don't feel I had done anything that merited the strength of your response, but I can see where I might have a similar response if the roles were reversed.

As far my comments go, the OP may not realize it, but much of what she said ends up being inflammatory here. I was attempting to find common ground where it existed and to agree to disagree where common ground didn't exist.

Oh well. Can't win 'em all.

KMasz

I was put on a "clean" eating regimen 6 weeks ago when the Dr took me off my Cholesterol Medication because it was causing my joints and muscles severe pain. I eat all plant food and fish... I do eat a yogurt and eggwhites but other than that it's all clean healthy eating. It was hard at first but now it's just habit and I have no desire to eat the crap or junk food. I don't eat processed foods, breads, meats or pasta... I do however, love pizza and will cheat once in a great while and have a slice or two and wash it down with a couple beers. I am by no means perfect but I am feeling much better, my skin feels good and I am sleeping like a rock!! Oh and yeah I lost 17.4lbs in 6 weeks so I am all for Clean Eating and would LOVE some recipes and meal plans if you care to share, so friend me if you want!

Thanks!
Kelly

So egg whites and yogurt aren't even considered "Clean"? :huh:

Not unless you have some chickens & cows in your backyard!

Serah87

" that what works for one may not work for others"

Wish they had a *rolling eyes* smiley. JS :ohwell:

LiftAllThePizzas

I don't think you're supposed to eat miracle gro. Besides, plants eat poop.

Mr_Knight

The term “Eat Clean” has been thrown around throughout the Fitness and Bodybuilding Community for some time. Fitness competitors are known for their strict diet to gain muscle mass in order to achieve their desired results.

But what does this mean..? Eating clean is simply the practice of avoiding processed and refined foods and basing your diet on whole foods.

Right.

That's why the bodybuilding community is rampant in its use of whole, unprocessed foods like protein powders.

LiftAllThePizzas

I was put on a "clean" eating regimen 6 weeks ago when the Dr took me off my Cholesterol Medication because it was causing my joints and muscles severe pain. I eat all plant food and fish... I do eat a yogurt and eggwhites but other than that it's all clean healthy eating. It was hard at first but now it's just habit and I have no desire to eat the crap or junk food. I don't eat processed foods, breads, meats or pasta... I do however, love pizza and will cheat once in a great while and have a slice or two and wash it down with a couple beers. I am by no means perfect but I am feeling much better, my skin feels good and I am sleeping like a rock!! Oh and yeah I lost 17.4lbs in 6 weeks so I am all for Clean Eating and would LOVE some recipes and meal plans if you care to share, so friend me if you want!

Thanks!
Kelly

So egg whites and yogurt aren't even considered "Clean"? :huh:

Not unless you have some chickens & cows in your backyard!

http://www.backyardchickens.com/

Who doesn't?

Mr_Knight

Weightloss is 80% nutrition, 10% Fitness and 10% Genetics!

I've actually quantified this for my own case. My caloric deficit comes half from diet and half from exercise, so it's 50% nutrition, 50% fitness for me.

jvbrooks

OP has a point, though. Why we haven't banned dihydrogen monoxide yet is a mystery.


Dihydrogen monoxide:

is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
is fatal if inhaled.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of Styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

I feel like you are missing a few uses for this "dihydrogen monoxide" you speak of. That's okay though, yes, ban away! Is there a petition I can sign?

Contact your elected officials! On average, more than ten people die every day due to dihydrogen monoxide inhalation.

ndj1979

So first the mythological "toxins" get tossed around, then the (completely false) rev your metabolism garbage gets tossed in, and on and on.

I think I just filled my diet myths bingo card on this topic.

OOooooo! Someone needs to put up the MFP bingo card so we can check.

in that case, we hit a trifecta with this thread...

delicious_cocktail

Wow everyone what's with all the arguing? The lady said learn what it means to eat clean and it IS confusing.

Like, whole foods would be brown rice and not white rice because its less processed. I think what she's saying is that by eating whole foods we'll be in better shape.

And it's clear that there a LOT of dirty eaters on this website. You filthy eaters should be eating whole foods and YOU'RE NOT. I see a list of database entries like this, and it just drives me nuts:



Whole foods, people. Stop processing your stuff into the simplest sugars you can.

ndj1979

I was put on a "clean" eating regimen 6 weeks ago when the Dr took me off my Cholesterol Medication because it was causing my joints and muscles severe pain. I eat all plant food and fish... I do eat a yogurt and eggwhites but other than that it's all clean healthy eating. It was hard at first but now it's just habit and I have no desire to eat the crap or junk food. I don't eat processed foods, breads, meats or pasta... I do however, love pizza and will cheat once in a great while and have a slice or two and wash it down with a couple beers. I am by no means perfect but I am feeling much better, my skin feels good and I am sleeping like a rock!! Oh and yeah I lost 17.4lbs in 6 weeks so I am all for Clean Eating and would LOVE some recipes and meal plans if you care to share, so friend me if you want!

Thanks!
Kelly

clean eating makes you sleep like a rock...who knew..?

Mr_Knight

The lady said learn what it means to eat clean and it IS confusing.

It's confusing because it's completely arbitrary and non-fact-based. That's why there is so much arguing - it's not a rational discussion, it's a religious argument.

Just sit back with a bag of popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.

bcattoes

OP, I think maybe you need a lesson in "clean eating". While I realize it's a made up term, your descrition does not fit the definition the term was orginial made up to mean.

1) Eat Whole Foods - whole fruits and vegetables, whole grains, grass-fed and free-range meats, low fat dairy products, unsalted nuts, and seeds.

Yes and no. Low fat dairy is not "clean". Salt is clean, so no reason nuts can't be salted. Wild caught fish should be on this list.

2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.

No. Pronunciation has nothing to do with it. The more the food has been altered from it's natural state, the less clean it is.

3) Eliminate Refined Sugar – refined sugar is nothing but calories. You can use sweetners like Stevia, but avoid aspartame, Splenda, Sweet N Low and similar.

No. Stevia the plant is clean. Stevia the product bought at the grocery is not.

4) Eat 5-6 small meals per day - By eating smaller meals throughout the day you can help rev up your metabolism and reduce the chance that you’ll eat some Doritos or Oreos rather than that whole grain cracker with nut butter and strawberries. You never get so hungry on this plan that you’ll feel deprived or feel the need to cheat.

Frequency of meals or hunger has nothing to do with whether the food is clean. Whole grain crackers are not very clean.

5) Cook your own meals - Instead of buying meals in a box, cook meals from scratch. That’s not as hard as it sounds! Clean, whole foods need little preparation beyond chopping and sautéing to make satisfying, delicious meals your family will love.

No. "Clean" doens't matter who cooks the meals. It matters what ingredients were used.

6) Combine protein with carbs - When you do snack or eat a meal, make sure that meal is balanced. For the most satisfaction from your diet, and so you’ll be less tempted to eat junk food, combine protein with carbs or carbs and fat. This simple act will fuel your body and quash hunger pangs.

No. Clean is not about macros. It's about how natural the food is.

PJ64

Weightloss is 80% nutrition, 10% Fitness and 10% Genetics!

I've actually quantified this for my own case. My caloric deficit comes half from diet and half from exercise, so it's 50% nutrition, 50% fitness for me.

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS MATH!!!:mad: :explode: :devil: