Learn What it means to "Eat Clean"
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Wow everyone what's with all the arguing? The lady said learn what it means to eat clean and it IS confusing.
Like, whole foods would be brown rice and not white rice because its less processed. I think what she's saying is that by eating whole foods we'll be in better shape.
And it's clear that there a LOT of dirty eaters on this website. You filthy eaters should be eating whole foods and YOU'RE NOT. I see a list of database entries like this, and it just drives me nuts:
Whole foods, people. Stop processing your stuff into the simplest sugars you can.
So my "USDA banana" I found in the database INCLUDES the peel?!? Damn. I've been doing it wrong.0 -
...may be laced with HFCS...
HFCS is nutritionally no different than honey.
What is your source for this info? I believe it is different. I believe different honeys even vary nutritionally.0 -
...may be laced with HFCS...
HFCS is nutritionally no different than honey.
What is your source for this info? I believe it is different. I believe different honeys even vary nutritionally.
I take it back - since the food item in question was a baked good, those typically use HFCS-42, which actually has a superior glucose-fructose ratio than honey.
Neither is a whole food, both are processed foods, both are basically pure sugar. Now, if you wanted to talk about eating actual *honeycomb*, then there might be something there...
PS Someone mentioned Stevia - Stevia the sweetener is not a whole food, it is a processed, manufactured product, and any definition of "clean" that includes Stevia must also include HFCS.0 -
Thanks for putting the post up.
Unfortunately, I am unable to complete reading the responses due to idiots with their opinionated opinions. Just not to sure as to how politely say to them 'blow it out of your a_ _!
Please let me know if you start a group. I would be interested.
so...do you have an answer as to which 'toxins' are removed when you eat stevia rather than sugar?0 -
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"I just ate a whole frozen Kashi pizza.
I feel clean and dirty all at the same time."
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You know you can cook those, right?
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So someone's offered to help others and everyone is showering her with abuse. What a cool bunch of people on MFP. This is why I don't go into the forums.
Correcting incorrect information=/=abuse
And there's a nice way you can do it and a not-so-nice way. I've definitely seen the latter.
No one is obligated to be nice while telling someone that they're wrong, especially when that wrongness is passed off as 'helpful advice/fact'
I want to add that disagreeing in a blunt, snarky or not so nice way =/= abuse.
It irks me when people use such words to describe miniscule things (like a small disagreement) because it belittles those that have been abused. Same with the words bullying and stalker (in a non-joking sense).
I agree with the last post. And I'm not going to get out a dictionary. But when so many people do it, it can certainly come off that way.
BE NICE GUYS!!! It never hurt anyone.
Some people are just blunt. And either way, it is a public forum. Who are you to dictate how someone should be? if they are blunt, snarky, cranky, grumpy - then they have every right to be.
It's all on the person getting butthurt to let it insult them or to take negativity from text.0 -
I still maintain the position that people, in general, are entirely too sensitive. Especially for the interwebz. I blame the don't hurt my feelings, don't say anything I don't want to hear or it's rude, everyone gets a participation trophy attitude that has been wildly adopted.0
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I still maintain the position that people, in general, are entirely too sensitive. Especially for the interwebz. I blame the don't hurt my feelings, don't say anything I don't want to hear or it's rude, everyone gets a participation trophy attitude that has been wildly adopted.
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I still maintain the position that people, in general, are entirely too sensitive. Especially for the interwebz. I blame the don't hurt my feelings, don't say anything I don't want to hear or it's rude, everyone gets a participation trophy attitude that has been wildly adopted.
Here's the thing, though: the OP has no problem saying we're all "dirty" eaters, but if you call them on it, you're suddenly a brute? It's so absurd that people think they can make pseudo-scientific claims and not have to defend them to proper scrutiny.0 -
Ok, I will add you to the list of people who will be expected to rush in to any thread where misinformation exists and type up a very nice correction. If anyone runs into a thread that needs information corrected, you're ok with people PMing you a link to the thread, right?So someone's offered to help others and everyone is showering her with abuse. What a cool bunch of people on MFP. This is why I don't go into the forums.
Correcting incorrect information=/=abuse
And there's a nice way you can do it and a not-so-nice way. I've definitely seen the latter.
I look forward to reading all of your friendly, helpful, non-butthurt-inducing corrective posts.0 -
That's enough derpage for one day.
*burp*
Sorry, but I'm full.
Time for pizza and whiskey.0 -
Hmm...I honestly don't know what to think about the 'clean eating' movement. I just try to eat more whole foods and stay clear of processed stuff.0
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Damn, I was hoping there was a Stevia shrub I could plant in my garden. Then I could harvest Stevia packets, content in the knowledge that I am so much better than all those plebes who eat bread and chemicals.
I've grown it (Stevia rebaudiana) on my back porch, but the fiber is fully mixed in, instead of being just on the outside like with the little stevie.packets. The plant tastes better too... I think the ink on the packets or something tastes a little off.0 -
I still maintain the position that people, in general, are entirely too sensitive. Especially for the interwebz. I blame the don't hurt my feelings, don't say anything I don't want to hear or it's rude, everyone gets a participation trophy attitude that has been wildly adopted.
Versus the "My thoughts are so important they MUST be shared, and anyone who has a problem with it needs therapy."
SO much more functional.
Most people fall into the middle ground, but for some reason the Internet makes everyone think everyone else falls into an extreme.0 -
Being that I competed in the 80's, I learned what it means to eat "clean". It basically meant restriction from foods I actually like and foods from my culture when prepping for a contest. I'm not willing to keep that type of restriction for life. I've basically kept the same physique (but not at single digits on bodyfat) eating basically anything I want, but meeting my macros/micros and being aware of calorie intake. If those that want to eat the way like it, more power to them, but saying by not eating clean that people won't achieve goals or feel like crap is subjective. There's also lots of broscience that the OP touts, so take it for what it's worth.
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2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.
"Avoid processed foods"? *kitten*. That's gonna be hard.
Whoa, wait a minute..."if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it"? Now THAT I can do. Avoiding processed foods is hard, but learning to pronounce words is so deliciously easy. Thanks, OP!0 -
Being that I competed in the 80's, I learned what it means to eat "clean". It basically meant restriction from foods I actually like and foods from my culture when prepping for a contest. I'm not willing to keep that type of restriction for life. I've basically kept the same physique (but not at single digits on bodyfat) eating basically anything I want, but meeting my macros/micros and being aware of calorie intake. If those that want to eat the way like it, more power to them, but saying by not eating clean that people won't achieve goals or feel like crap is subjective. There's also lots of broscience that the OP touts, so take it for what it's worth.
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Now this is interesting to me. What changes did you make to your diet for competitions and what effect did they have on your physique? Did you knock out whole food groups, like diary? If so, what did you eat instead to keep your energy up?0 -
People ask me all of the time what Clean Eating is, like its this foreign notion or new Fitness Craze!
The term “Eat Clean” has been thrown around throughout the Fitness and Bodybuilding Community for some time. Fitness competitors are known for their strict diet to gain muscle mass in order to achieve their desired results.
But what does this mean..? Eating clean is simply the practice of avoiding processed and refined foods and basing your diet on whole foods. But there’s much more to this plan. You can structure your diet to get proper nutrition, help manage diseases, avoid developing diseases in the first place, lose weight, remove toxins, and just feel better.
Eating clean involves not only choosing the right foods to eat but also avoiding all of the junk foods and processed foods that are so readily available.
It got me thinking that there may be more people on MFP that could benefit from a little bit of Clean Eating 101 and help with meal planning and recipes.
If you think that you could use a little bit of help in this area, let me know. We could create a little Accountability Group and work together to try and achieve your health & fitness goals a little bit faster with this change to your nutrition.
Weightloss is 80% nutrition, 10% Fitness and 10% Genetics!
I do not take 'clean' eating advice from someone who sells supplements and shakes, since that kind of defeats the whole clean/whole foods/non processed idea :huh:
I eat a mostly whole foods, plant based diet and follow Michael Pollan's simple philosophy of eat food, not to much of it and mostly plants. However, I also have lost over 50lbs and now am maintaining with occasional non-whole foods (like the all you can eat pizza buffet I hit up for lunch yesterday), and my 4 cans of Cherry Coke Zero every day. I could cut it out, but why? I feel great, look great and I'm healthy. And I enjoy what I eat and no longer feel guilt about the food choices I make. I focus on whole foods and enjoy everything in moderation :drinker:0 -
Weightloss is 80% nutrition, 10% Fitness and 10% Genetics!
Yes but remember weight loss = 10%
Body composition = 100%0 -
No. "Clean" doesn't mean one ingredient only. But I'd choose bread with a handful of pronounceable ingredients over Sara Lee fluffily bread like substance with 20 ingredients I can't pronounce.I'd love to see what meal plans and recipes you have! Also, is wheat bread considered clean? I'm thinking not, right? Are only natural foods (one ingredient) considered "clean". I'm sure I sound like a tool, but hey, it's an honest question. lol
Ezekiel is a good choice.0 -
No. "Clean" doesn't mean one ingredient only. But I'd choose bread with a handful of pronounceable ingredients over Sara Lee fluffily bread like substance with 20 ingredients I can't pronounce.I'd love to see what meal plans and recipes you have! Also, is wheat bread considered clean? I'm thinking not, right? Are only natural foods (one ingredient) considered "clean". I'm sure I sound like a tool, but hey, it's an honest question. lol
Ezekiel is a good choice.
It's also pretty easy to make bread/rolls, especially if you have a bread maker. I make sweet breads in the oven (this week I made a great cinnamon carrot bread), and then loaves and rolls in my bread maker. We rarely eat loaf bread though, since my kid's prefer their school lunch sandwiches to be on rolls for some reason lol.0 -
To me it's not binary. It's a goal toward eating foods that are less processed, have fewer unnecessary additives. To me it's more of a lifestyle than a diet (in a different sense).My issue with this is where do you draw the line at "processed" and inevitably everyone has a different line...which is why I think the term is pretty ridiculous. Am I "bad" because I opened up a can of black beans instead of buying dry beans and spending all day cooking them? They're processed and canned afterall. How about bread...any bread you get, whether it's whole grain or white bleached flour with HFCS is processed. How about those protein shakes and recovery shakes...almost everyone I know who touts "clean eating" also consumes these supplements which are highly processed foods. Is my quinoa that comes in a package from Costco any different than the bulk Quinoa at Sprouts Market?
I definitely agree that a nutrient dense diet that is rich in naturally occuring whole foods is the way to go...but these terms like "clean" are incredibly arbitrary and open to ones personal interpretation. And when I look at my can of black beans (beans, salt, dried onion) the ingredients aren't any different than if I were to do it myself...save for I'd probably use fresh onion. So where is the line drawn at processed, "unclean" food?
It ends up being about 80/20. I read labels. I choose the beans that don't include HFCS or any other added sugars. I choose the catsup with less sugar and no unpronounceable ingredients.
I choose bread with ingredients more like what I would make at home.
Again, it's not binary. And, fwiw, I had never heard the phrase "clean eating" til I came here. I don't love the phrase. But I do love the lifestyle.
(I had also never heard of "eating back", or "eat more (more than what?) to weigh less".)
If someone can come up with a good phrase, I'll go with it.
I know what it means to me. I don't get why we focus on the name, and berate (not you) folks who choose to orient their food choices (diet, in the broad sense of the word) toward whole, minimally processed foods).0 -
Absolutely. I said that in another post: pick breads that resemble home made breads. We make our own breads as well, not as often as we could...but Ezekiel is a good compromise.
No. "Clean" doesn't mean one ingredient only. But I'd choose bread with a handful of pronounceable ingredients over Sara Lee fluffily bread like substance with 20 ingredients I can't pronounce.I'd love to see what meal plans and recipes you have! Also, is wheat bread considered clean? I'm thinking not, right? Are only natural foods (one ingredient) considered "clean". I'm sure I sound like a tool, but hey, it's an honest question. lol
Ezekiel is a good choice.
It's also pretty easy to make bread/rolls, especially if you have a bread maker. I make sweet breads in the oven (this week I made a great cinnamon carrot bread), and then loaves and rolls in my bread maker. We rarely eat loaf bread though, since my kid's prefer their school lunch sandwiches to be on rolls for some reason lol.0 -
Damn, I was hoping there was a Stevia shrub I could plant in my garden. Then I could harvest Stevia packets, content in the knowledge that I am so much better than all those plebes who eat bread and chemicals.
You asked - so here you go: http://seedrack.com/indiv/stevia.html?gclid=CK-65uyD1bkCFeIRMwodJkIAHg
And here's how to use the fresh leaves as sweetner:
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/use-stevia-leaves-6944.html0 -
No. "Clean" doesn't mean one ingredient only. But I'd choose bread with a handful of pronounceable ingredients over Sara Lee fluffily bread like substance with 20 ingredients I can't pronounce.I'd love to see what meal plans and recipes you have! Also, is wheat bread considered clean? I'm thinking not, right? Are only natural foods (one ingredient) considered "clean". I'm sure I sound like a tool, but hey, it's an honest question. lol
Ezekiel is a good choice.
It's also pretty easy to make bread/rolls, especially if you have a bread maker. I make sweet breads in the oven (this week I made a great cinnamon carrot bread), and then loaves and rolls in my bread maker. We rarely eat loaf bread though, since my kid's prefer their school lunch sandwiches to be on rolls for some reason lol.
^^ Um. I don't think that means what you think it means. 0 -
Damn, I was hoping there was a Stevia shrub I could plant in my garden. Then I could harvest Stevia packets, content in the knowledge that I am so much better than all those plebes who eat bread and chemicals.
You asked - so here you go: http://seedrack.com/indiv/stevia.html?gclid=CK-65uyD1bkCFeIRMwodJkIAHg
And here's how to use the fresh leaves as sweetner:
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/use-stevia-leaves-6944.html
So again...what makes stevia extract (which is processed using ethanol or methanol) more clean than sugar cane extract?
eta: my point being: Stevia is a plant, sure. So is sugar cane. The labeling of something as 'processed' or 'clean' is just completely arbitrary and seemingly based on current trends. Sugar cane has to be processed. It can also be used raw. Same for Stevia, but one is touted and the other demonized.0 -
Prepping for a contest (in the 80s no less) is a bit different. I've seen friends prep (in the 90s primarily). Eliminating cultural foods wouldn't be a goal of anyone I know who "eats clean". Foods that have been passed down from one's culture ARE typically minimally processed foods. If my family were of Mexican heritage, for example, why would I need to remove traditional Mexican foods to eat clean? I may decide not to eat the fast food version of those foods... but can't think of any traditional mexican food I'd need to dump. Unless I'm misunderstanding you...Being that I competed in the 80's, I learned what it means to eat "clean". It basically meant restriction from foods I actually like and foods from my culture when prepping for a contest. I'm not willing to keep that type of restriction for life. I've basically kept the same physique (but not at single digits on bodyfat) eating basically anything I want, but meeting my macros/micros and being aware of calorie intake. If those that want to eat the way like it, more power to them, but saying by not eating clean that people won't achieve goals or feel like crap is subjective. There's also lots of broscience that the OP touts, so take it for what it's worth.
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Glad you can keep eating what you want.
2) Avoid Processed Foods – Put simply, if you cant pronounce it, don’t eat it.
"Avoid processed foods"? *kitten*. That's gonna be hard.
Whoa, wait a minute..."if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it"? Now THAT I can do. Avoiding processed foods is hard, but learning to pronounce words is so deliciously easy. Thanks, OP!0 -
That's enough derpage for one day.
*burp*
Sorry, but I'm full.
Time for pizza and whiskey.
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In to learn from the OP.0
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