Weight loss help

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  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Thanks I'll reduce sodium....

    Christ. In the post that tells you to eat more, all you glean is the part that tells you to eat less. :noway:
  • ShadeBlossom
    ShadeBlossom Posts: 99 Member
    Thanks I'll reduce sodium....

    Christ. In the post that tells you to eat more, all you glean is the part that tells you to eat less. :noway:

    I was JUST about to say this. Heck with it... I'm getting the popcorn now.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Thanks I'll reduce sodium....

    Christ. In the post that tells you to eat more, all you glean is the part that tells you to eat less. :noway:

    I was JUST about to say this. Heck with it... I'm getting the popcorn now.

    :drinker:
  • natalia616
    natalia616 Posts: 34 Member
    I honestly didnt realise that at all... Alright I'll try to eat more...
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I think everyone in this thread has shown genuine concern, OP. I know it's often hard to hear answers that don't mesh with the kinds of comments we thought we were going to get, but nobody in here is trying to steer you wrong or insult you. What you've described is quite concerning, and people on this site do think about the health of other members.

    I just got over a stomach virus. I spent 2 days vomiting and nauseated, barely managing to make myself eat anything and just barely holding down anything I did eat. I ended up consuming about 700 calories that first day. That's 700 calories on a day when I feel like I barely ate anything. That was 1/4 cup of soup, a couple pieces of bread, some crackers, some Gatorade, and a bowl of cereal in the morning before I'd gotten sick. That's an empty day. It was awful. To think that you're limiting yourself to even fewer calories than I ate as a sick person is very confusing. And alarming.
  • Sparlingo
    Sparlingo Posts: 938 Member
    5'0" and still losing weight eating 1500-1700 net calories a day (though in truth 1670 is my maintenance goal).

    Was losing eating 1200, too, but was hungry and tired and a little cranky.

    You can eat more and lose weight. Truthfully, you need to eat more regardless of what your weight loss goals are. You cannot sustain what you are doing long term.

    Eat to fuel your body day to day. If you gain a little weight at first (water weight, most likely), so be it. It will start to come off again in time. And you'll have the added benefit of not damaging your metabolism, not feeling like a zombie, and not being at risk of losing your hair or your periods.

    Plus, if you kept up 600 calories a day for the duration of your weight loss, when you return to somewhat normal eating habits you will likely rebound. It is better to eat with a more reasonable deficit so that your weight loss is something you can sustain long term.
  • natalia616
    natalia616 Posts: 34 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful

    Go see your doctor and a registered dietitian.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    There is no metabolic slowdown or hormone imbalance known to science that would cause someone not a midget to stop losing weight at 600 calories a day, unless they already have the physique of a holocaust survivor.

    If the OP is not losing weight, then all the concern about "600 calories is too little" is unfounded and misdirected, because the OP is simply not eating 600 calories a day.
  • Sparlingo
    Sparlingo Posts: 938 Member
    What I'm saying is you should gradually increase your intake *now*. I promise you won't gain back everything because you'll still be eating in a deficit.

    I should have spoke more clearly but I work night shifts right now and I'm too tired to get into it. I'm saying it's way better for you long term to eat a smaller calorie deficit (still a deficit!) than to have such an extreme deficit. It's easier on your body and WAY easier to maintain down the road.

    It's not too late - just eat a little more every day. Keep logging accurately. Aim for about 1200 calories. That's probably still a pretty significant deficit but still gets you the nutrients you need to function.

    You'll gain a little at first (just water weight, probably), then it should level off and you'll lose again. I'd honestly recommend putting the scale away for two weeks while you slowly increase your calories and log accurately, and then start tracking your weight again when you're eating what an adult should eat.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful

    If you jump from 600 to what you were eating before (not sure what that is) then yes, you will rebound. If you start with a healthier deficit that is closer to maintenance, you have a better chance at making the change permanent.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful

    She said that if you continue this 600 calorie thing, and then suddenly go back to normal eating, that might lead to a rebound. Not that upping your calories a bit right now is going to make you gain all the weight back in full.

    It's not awful. It's healthy. You do not have to lose all your weight in some set record time. You do not have to damage your body in order to lose weight. You do not have to meet some predetermined goal by unhealthy methods. What you do have to do is take care of yourself. At this calorie consumption, you're going to start having damage to your internal organs, you'll start losing your hair, your teeth will get loose in their sockets, you skin will lose it's vibrancy, etc. What good is it to be slim if you have patchy hair and no teeth and have to be connected to medical equipment all the time?
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful

    She said that if you continue this 600 calorie thing, and then suddenly go back to normal eating, that might lead to a rebound. Not that upping your calories a bit right now is going to make you gain all the weight back in full.

    It's not awful. It's healthy. You do not have to lose all your weight in some set record time. You do not have to damage your body in order to lose weight. You do not have to meet some predetermined goal by unhealthy methods. What you do have to do is take care of yourself. At this calorie consumption, you're going to start having damage to your internal organs, you'll start losing your hair, your teeth will get loose in their sockets, you skin will lose it's vibrancy, etc. What good is it to be slim if you have patchy hair and no teeth and have to be connected to medical equipment all the time?

    I like you. You say it very well.
  • natalia616
    natalia616 Posts: 34 Member
    Im sorry I'm irritating you, but she said I would rebound.... Does rebound specifically mean only water weight? If it does then I didnt know thats what it meant... And I'm not a troll... I was sincerly confused to why I havent lost Weight in month, rather gained some. So if I eat 1200cal. Without exercise I will still lose weight? Or is this including exercise?
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    So I'm going to rebound 30pounds? Thats basicallly throwing away everything ive worked for 6 months for ... Id honestly rather just eat less then rebound...this is awful

    She said that if you continue this 600 calorie thing, and then suddenly go back to normal eating, that might lead to a rebound. Not that upping your calories a bit right now is going to make you gain all the weight back in full.

    It's not awful. It's healthy. You do not have to lose all your weight in some set record time. You do not have to damage your body in order to lose weight. You do not have to meet some predetermined goal by unhealthy methods. What you do have to do is take care of yourself. At this calorie consumption, you're going to start having damage to your internal organs, you'll start losing your hair, your teeth will get loose in their sockets, you skin will lose it's vibrancy, etc. What good is it to be slim if you have patchy hair and no teeth and have to be connected to medical equipment all the time?

    I like you. You say it very well.

    :-)
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Im sorry I'm irritating you, but she said I would rebound.... Does rebound specifically mean only water weight? If it does then I didnt know thats what it meant... And I'm not a troll... I was sincerly confused to why I havent lost Weight in month, rather gained some. So if I eat 1200cal. Without exercise I will still lose weight? Or is this including exercise?

    1200 cals without exercise. If you do exercise, eat those calories back.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    Im sorry I'm irritating you, but she said I would rebound.... Does rebound specifically mean only water weight? If it does then I didnt know thats what it meant... And I'm not a troll... I was sincerly confused to why I havent lost Weight in month, rather gained some. So if I eat 1200cal. Without exercise I will still lose weight? Or is this including exercise?

    You can lose weight without working out. All you need is a deficit. However, working out strengthens your heart, maintains your muscle mass and it can be relaxing, depending on what you're doing.
  • natalia616
    natalia616 Posts: 34 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    I second that motion. Either get yourself a sandwich OR down some peanut butter until your intake is 1200. Peanut butter has healthy fats and protein.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Im sorry I'm irritating you, but she said I would rebound.... Does rebound specifically mean only water weight? If it does then I didnt know thats what it meant... And I'm not a troll... I was sincerly confused to why I havent lost Weight in month, rather gained some. So if I eat 1200cal. Without exercise I will still lose weight? Or is this including exercise?


    Try not to worry too much about starts and stops, or small gains and losses. That's just how it goes. Very few people actually lose one pound per week like clockwork. That's just not how the body works. For me, I tend to lose one pound, then gain three pounds of water with my period, then lose those three pounds a week later, then lose one pound for real. So it ends up being more like I'm losing one pound per month. And then there are some months where I just stall completely and lose nothing at all for 8 or 9 weeks. Oh well. Then it starts declining again. Water weight is going to happen. The body needs water, it's important. That will fluctuate, and you just need to learn what's normal for your own body.

    You can eat 1200 calories a day and lose weight with no exercise. Exercise will help you maintain strength and flexibility as you lose the weight and as you age, and it will help keep your heart healthy. If you do exercise, you'll need to eat a bit more to fuel the activity level.

    You might not lose as quickly as you'd hoped, but you'll do it in a more healthy and more permanent way. And honestly, most likely by upping your calories, you'll actually lose quicker because your body will know that it's healthy enough to let go of those calories and burn the stored fat away.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.

    I can agree with you that it is unlikely OP is eating only 600, though not impossible. If she is, though, do you think she should stay that way?
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.
    Ok, then how about this?

    OP, log accurately and consistently, meaning, weigh your foods, measure drinks, etc. and make sure you are eating at least 1200 calories.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.


    She's said over and over that she eats 600 calories a day.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.

    Better than trying to tell her to stay at a 600 cal goal.

    OP, are you weighing everything? If not....invest in a food scale. Up your cal goal to 1200 for 2 weeks. Then up to 1400 for another 2-3 weeks and then 1600. stay there for 4-6 weeks and then reasses your tdee and figure if you need to stay there or up a little more.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.


    She's said over and over that she eats 600 calories a day.

    It doesn't matter. If she isn't losing weight she is clearly eating a whack more than 600 calories. You're telling someone to eat more when they don't even know how much they're eating right now.

    This is terrible advice. :(

    The first step is to "really" figure out daily intake, everything else is supposition and projection.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.


    She's said over and over that she eats 600 calories a day.

    It doesn't matter. If she isn't losing weight she is clearly eating a whack more than 600 calories. You're telling someone to eat more when they don't even know how much they're eating right now.

    This is terrible advice. :(

    The first step is to "really" figure out daily intake, everything else is supposition and projection.

    I'm saying she should at least eat 1200 calories. Do you agree?
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Alright... So if how much should I raise my intake by and for how long should I keep it that intake before raising it again until reaching 1200cal..?

    1200 cals is still a deficit, and you need the fuel. I'd say raise it now. Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal. Will someone second?

    Nope. I disagree. We clearly DO NOT KNOW how much this person is eating. The advice to eat more is IMO completely misguided.


    She's said over and over that she eats 600 calories a day.

    It doesn't matter. If she isn't losing weight she is clearly eating a whack more than 600 calories. You're telling someone to eat more when they don't even know how much they're eating right now.

    This is terrible advice. :(

    The first step is to "really" figure out daily intake, everything else is supposition and projection.

    No, we're telling her to eat more than 600. If she already is eating more than 600, she's not logging it, and people have told her to log it properly. But she has said that her goal is 600, and people are urging her to change that goal. That's not terrible advise.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I'm saying she should at least eat 1200 calories. Do you agree?

    What you said was "Like ASAP. Like go eat a meal."