ARE CARBS BAD
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No infact sometimes when lifting they actually are helpful. Carbs are fine if you pair them with a Protein and a Veggie then it will keep your blood sugar stable. But if you are just eating all carbs or too much portion wise of them then they can raise your blood sugar n you will gain weight. Just make sure to pair them with an equal amount of protein and a veggie and you will be fine.0
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I google What are complex carbs and here's my answer: (PS: i NEVER knew carrots fell under the starchy carbs!!!
Complex carbohydrates are those carbohydrates that are made of three or more sugar molecules linked together. These carbohydrates are found vegetables, nuts, fruits, seeds and grains. They differ from simple carbohydrates, like sugar, that are made of only one or two linked sugar molecules. Complex carbohydrates take longer for your body to break down than simple ones, which helps to maintain a steady blood sugar level.
Which Foods Are Complex Carbohydrates?
Complex carbohydrates should make up a large portion of your diet. You should aim for roughly half of your daily caloric intake to be derived from complex carbohydrates, with over half of these coming from whole grains. Starchy carbohydrates include foods such as:
Bread
Cereal
Rice
Pasta
Corn
Carrots
Dry beans
Potatoes
Additionally, green vegetables contain less starch and more fiber, making them a great choice to fulfill your complex carbohydrate needs. This includes vegetables such as:
Green beans
Broccoli
Spinach
Include these healthy choices in your diet, and increase you energy levels and health.
Copying and pasting from others' blog entries and presenting it as your own is lame. Just link to the site.
While I agree that a link to the site is a good idea, mostly so people can decide for themselves whether the source is knowledgeable or not. This poster did not present this as their own. They clearly stated it was the internet and even mentioned that some of the information was surprising to them.
Ya, thank you! lol. Also, why isn't fruit listed as a complex carb? im confused......0 -
NO! (well you did ask!)0
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I google What are complex carbs and here's my answer: (PS: i NEVER knew carrots fell under the starchy carbs!!!
Complex carbohydrates are those carbohydrates that are made of three or more sugar molecules linked together. These carbohydrates are found vegetables, nuts, fruits, seeds and grains. They differ from simple carbohydrates, like sugar, that are made of only one or two linked sugar molecules. Complex carbohydrates take longer for your body to break down than simple ones, which helps to maintain a steady blood sugar level.
Which Foods Are Complex Carbohydrates?
Complex carbohydrates should make up a large portion of your diet. You should aim for roughly half of your daily caloric intake to be derived from complex carbohydrates, with over half of these coming from whole grains. Starchy carbohydrates include foods such as:
Bread
Cereal
Rice
Pasta
Corn
Carrots
Dry beans
Potatoes
Additionally, green vegetables contain less starch and more fiber, making them a great choice to fulfill your complex carbohydrate needs. This includes vegetables such as:
Green beans
Broccoli
Spinach
Include these healthy choices in your diet, and increase you energy levels and health.
Copying and pasting from others' blog entries and presenting it as your own is lame. Just link to the site.
While I agree that a link to the site is a good idea, mostly so people can decide for themselves whether the source is knowledgeable or not. This poster did not present this as their own. They clearly stated it was the internet and even mentioned that some of the information was surprising to them.
Ya, thank you! lol. Also, why isn't fruit listed as a complex carb? im confused......
"Fruit" isn't a carb. Fruit tends to contain a lot of fructose, which is a simple carb, as well as things like fiber and other complex carbs.0 -
I don't think carbs are bad, but I think refined carbs are not conducive to weight loss.
And, I also think lifestyle factors into it.
I lost weight eating tons of carbs (even refined ones) in my 20's when I was working out an hour a day. Fast forward 18 years, 2 kids, a desk job, and some physical issues that prevent me from working out like I used to, and yes, carbs factor into it much more than they used to.
The people I find, on here, who say it matters not tend to be younger, work out a lot, or have more weight to lose.
Take someone with a little age, who is not doing CrossFit or PX90, and who doesn't have a whole lot to lose, and yes, I think it matters more.
Also, I know there is 1200 calorie hatred, but again (for the reasons stated above) there are those who need to eat in that range and carbs don't always factor "into the macros" as easily.
****The above opinion is not based on scientific evidence is derived fully from speculation and personal experience****
Amen. I think when most folks say "different things work for different people" they are referring more to lifestyle than diet plans. And there is nothing wrong with adjusting our plans to suit our lives as long people we don't go to dangerous extremes.
OP, carbs in general are not bad. The types of carbs you eat, and the amount, can impact your health overall though.0 -
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THIS.I google What are complex carbs and here's my answer: (PS: i NEVER knew carrots fell under the starchy carbs!!!
Complex carbohydrates are those carbohydrates that are made of three or more sugar molecules linked together. These carbohydrates are found vegetables, nuts, fruits, seeds and grains. They differ from simple carbohydrates, like sugar, that are made of only one or two linked sugar molecules. Complex carbohydrates take longer for your body to break down than simple ones, which helps to maintain a steady blood sugar level.
Which Foods Are Complex Carbohydrates?
Complex carbohydrates should make up a large portion of your diet. You should aim for roughly half of your daily caloric intake to be derived from complex carbohydrates, with over half of these coming from whole grains. Starchy carbohydrates include foods such as:
Bread
Cereal
Rice
Pasta
Corn
Carrots
Dry beans
Potatoes
Additionally, green vegetables contain less starch and more fiber, making them a great choice to fulfill your complex carbohydrate needs. This includes vegetables such as:
Green beans
Broccoli
Spinach
Include these healthy choices in your diet, and increase you energy levels and health.
Copying and pasting from others' blog entries and presenting it as your own is lame. Just link to the site.
While I agree that a link to the site is a good idea, mostly so people can decide for themselves whether the source is knowledgeable or not. This poster did not present this as their own. They clearly stated it was the internet and even mentioned that some of the information was surprising to them.
And I can pick up a sentence from it and find the blog. She never said it was hers. she CLEARLY stated that she googled it.
But yeah, easier if she linked the site (that I disagreed with).0 -
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I completely agree that it's a bigger challenge to lose when you're older etc. And yes, the fewer calories you "get" the fewer carbs fit in it, simply put. I have my macros set at 30c/40p/30f (when I'm counting) and on non running days that puts my carbs at about100. Not a lot to play around with if you eat fruit and veg as I do.I don't think carbs are bad, but I think refined carbs are not conducive to weight loss.
And, I also think lifestyle factors into it.
I lost weight eating tons of carbs (even refined ones) in my 20's when I was working out an hour a day. Fast forward 18 years, 2 kids, a desk job, and some physical issues that prevent me from working out like I used to, and yes, carbs factor into it much more than they used to.
The people I find, on here, who say it matters not tend to be younger, work out a lot, or have more weight to lose.
Take someone with a little age, who is not doing CrossFit or PX90, and who doesn't have a whole lot to lose, and yes, I think it matters more.
Also, I know there is 1200 calorie hatred, but again (for the reasons stated above) there are those who need to eat in that range and carbs don't always factor "into the macros" as easily.
****The above opinion is not based on scientific evidence is derived fully from speculation and personal experience****0 -
OP, carbs in general are not bad. The types of carbs you eat, and the amount, can impact your health overall though.
How so?
You don't think there is a difference between a bag of dorritos and a bag of baby carrots nutritionally? The OP has health issues that she is just learning about. You don't think she should try to eat the most nutritionally sound foods? I would think eating empty carbs (i.e. chips and sugary/processed foods) would negatively impact the health of someone with a thyroid condition who is also trying to lose weight. Just my .02, based on my experiences as a diabetic who has to watch not only the type of carbs but the amount. Your mileage may vary <shrug>.0 -
I think the general consensus is that 30% should be protein, 25% should be fat, and the rest filled with carbs. But all articles/research I have seen says that of course, people are different and each person should adjust as necessary based on how their body processes/reacts to that combo.
One school of thought is to stay away from "fast carbs" like the breads, pastas, even bananas. I've recently read other information that says "fast carbs" are fine as long as you pair them with a "slow carb" like the green veggies, and berries.0 -
I think the general consensus is that 30% should be protein, 25% should be fat, and the rest filled with carbs.
General consensus??0 -
Diabetic or thyroid condition or not, I think if one routinely chooses doritos as their go to carb and fills their 40% (or whatever their magical macros are set to) to highly processed foods like doritos they'll see some health issues... but then, I'm sure that would be called a conspiracy theory or some such thing.OP, carbs in general are not bad. The types of carbs you eat, and the amount, can impact your health overall though.
How so?
You don't think there is a difference between a bag of dorritos and a bag of baby carrots nutritionally? The OP has health issues that she is just learning about. You don't think she should try to eat the most nutritionally sound foods? I would think eating empty carbs (i.e. chips and sugary/processed foods) would negatively impact the health of someone with a thyroid condition who is also trying to lose weight. Just my .02, based on my experiences as a diabetic who has to watch not only the type of carbs but the amount. Your mileage may vary <shrug>.
cheers!:drinker:0 -
I don't think carbs are bad, but I think refined carbs are not conducive to weight loss.
And, I also think lifestyle factors into it.
I lost weight eating tons of carbs (even refined ones) in my 20's when I was working out an hour a day. Fast forward 18 years, 2 kids, a desk job, and some physical issues that prevent me from working out like I used to, and yes, carbs factor into it much more than they used to.
The people I find, on here, who say it matters not tend to be younger, work out a lot, or have more weight to lose.
Take someone with a little age, who is not doing CrossFit or PX90, and who doesn't have a whole lot to lose, and yes, I think it matters more.
Also, I know there is 1200 calorie hatred, but again (for the reasons stated above) there are those who need to eat in that range and carbs don't always factor "into the macros" as easily.
Yep... which is why IMO the answer to just about every diet question is... it depends.0 -
Nope.
If consumed properly they are a benefit.
Are they an essential macro, I would say no......
But again, to have some energy and not be grouchy, they do help.
The problem with carbs comes from people getting to much, and then their bodies are not able to oxidize/burn off the fat they consume.
So the body will work to get rid of all the carbs, and by doing so, oxidizing the fat takes a back seat, so the fat gets stored.....thus people start getting fat.
So eat the amount of carbs you need, but don't go overboard.
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hi to all,
a question to all people who have lost weight succesfully
does it really matter how many carbs, protein and fat do we eat.
i mean we live in different countries and we have our own foods.
so i see a lot of people advocating low carbs.
i dont have enough budget to replace my carbs with protein and fats.
i am especially concerned about bread.
i have hypothyroidism if that matters.
and if bread/carbs are bad for me is there any medical test that can be carried out to know this!!
Need proper guidance
Yeah you need to go to a doctor and get on a medical diet. There are huge complications when you have thyroid problems.
"Huge complications" ... Uh, no ... Properly medicated (preferably T3/T4 combo, natural or synthetic), you should be fine ...
I am hypothyroid (euthyroid with medication) as well.
The only food that is a big NO, NO for thyroid patients is SOY ... STAY FAR, FAR AWAY FROM SOY ...
And be sure to cook your cruciferous veggies ...0 -
Case in point re: macros. I have mine set to 60 carbs. Other than plain greek yogurt, 2 tbs coconut milk creamer, and 1 tbs of pure maple syrup, I am pretty much left with 1 carb. There isn't room for bread or anything refined.
This makes my 2 glasses of wine tonight sort of hard to fit in there even though I have the calories for it. I think the "fit it in your macros" only works if you have a much higher calorie range.0 -
Perhaps why I am always left with those pesky last pounds is b/c I don't care enough to not drink the wine. So, there is that!0
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Nope. Not gonna argue that. As long as we are, in fact, talking about MODERATION. I look at diaries here where I see NO carbs coming from fruits or vegetables. Only from the so-called "starchy carbs" and usually quite processed (minute rice and the like). Day after day. Will that lead to a problem? Time will tell, but my bet is yes.
Diabetic or thyroid condition or not, I think if one routinely chooses doritos as their go to carb and fills their 40% (or whatever their magical macros are set to) to highly processed foods like doritos they'll see some health issues... but then, I'm sure that would be called a conspiracy theory or some such thing.OP, carbs in general are not bad. The types of carbs you eat, and the amount, can impact your health overall though.
How so?
You don't think there is a difference between a bag of dorritos and a bag of baby carrots nutritionally? The OP has health issues that she is just learning about. You don't think she should try to eat the most nutritionally sound foods? I would think eating empty carbs (i.e. chips and sugary/processed foods) would negatively impact the health of someone with a thyroid condition who is also trying to lose weight. Just my .02, based on my experiences as a diabetic who has to watch not only the type of carbs but the amount. Your mileage may vary <shrug>.
cheers!:drinker:
That example is just a bit extreme don't you think? No one is saying to fill 40% carbs with doritos. But if an individual has a well planned out day, in caloric deficit, targeting macros then honestly your going to argue that a bag of doritos vs a bag of carrots is going to make a big difference health wise?
Link me to some readings where keeping all the things I mentioned in consideration and eating some processed carbs leads to this big list of health issues you speak of.0 -
Wine doesn't have many carbs, fwiw. Two 5oz pinot grigios would have about 7 grams of carbs. But yes, the smaller the window between BMR and TDEE the fewer discretionary calories and therefore, the fewer discretionary carbs one has, if one goes by macros.Case in point re: macros. I have mine set to 60 carbs. Other than plain greek yogurt, 2 tbs coconut milk creamer, and 1 tbs of pure maple syrup, I am pretty much left with 1 carb. There isn't room for bread or anything refined.
This makes my 2 glasses of wine tonight sort of hard to fit in there even though I have the calories for it. I think the "fit it in your macros" only works if you have a much higher calorie range.
I have mine set to 30%c/40%p/40%f, but still, one good sandwich kinda does it, unless you ignore all fruit as many do on here.
(I plan to have 2 or 3 glasses of dry white wine tonight. And will come in under calories, (though I'm not counting these days) thanks to a good run, and a bike commute!) Enjoy yours as well!!0 -
I think the general consensus is that 30% should be protein, 25% should be fat, and the rest filled with carbs.
General consensus??
I should clarify - most of the articles I've read this week suggest some kind of similar ratio. Some articles were written by fitness buffs, some by personal trainers, some by health professionals, and some just posted on websites - not sure about who the author is.0 -
Ditto!I don't think carbs are bad, but I think refined carbs are not conducive to weight loss.
And, I also think lifestyle factors into it.
I lost weight eating tons of carbs (even refined ones) in my 20's when I was working out an hour a day. Fast forward 18 years, 2 kids, a desk job, and some physical issues that prevent me from working out like I used to, and yes, carbs factor into it much more than they used to.
The people I find, on here, who say it matters not tend to be younger, work out a lot, or have more weight to lose.
Take someone with a little age, who is not doing CrossFit or PX90, and who doesn't have a whole lot to lose, and yes, I think it matters more.
Also, I know there is 1200 calorie hatred, but again (for the reasons stated above) there are those who need to eat in that range and carbs don't always factor "into the macros" as easily.
Yep... which is why IMO the answer to just about every diet question is... it depends.0 -
The body requires no carbs for life but you will die if you don't get sufficient protein and fat.
According to my human biology class, you are very wrong. You need carbs to live. They get broken down into glucose, which you need for cellular respiration, which you need for everything.
Before you tell others how wrong they are maybe you should take a good look at yourself? Have they covered the definition of "essential nutrient" or gluconeogenesis in your class yet? I am not advocating no or even low carb. But it the interests of accuracy, you clearly are confused. We do not need carbs to live. We need glucose which can be synthesized via gluconeogenesis. It good to understand the subject before calling others wrong.0 -
It matters for body composition, not so much for weight loss.0
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Just letting you all know that I'm still alive. Didn't even wake up super obese either. Cool bananas. Therefore, carbs are not bad.0
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The body requires no carbs for life but you will die if you don't get sufficient protein and fat.
According to my human biology class, you are very wrong. You need carbs to live. They get broken down into glucose, which you need for cellular respiration, which you need for everything.
Before you tell others how wrong they are maybe you should take a good look at yourself? Have they covered the definition of "essential nutrient" or gluconeogenesis in your class yet? I am not advocating no or even low carb. But it the interests of accuracy, you clearly are confused. We do not need carbs to live. We need glucose which can be synthesized via gluconeogenesis. It good to understand the subject before calling others wrong.
Yes our bodies have the ability to create glucose (gluco-neogenesis) but remember, that function is also a stressor on the body. It is an adaptation to the perception of starvation which going too low carb for too long induces. Our bodies can do it if they have too... but the question is, do they have to.0 -
It matters for body composition, not so much for weight loss.
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The body requires no carbs for life but you will die if you don't get sufficient protein and fat.
According to my human biology class, you are very wrong. You need carbs to live. They get broken down into glucose, which you need for cellular respiration, which you need for everything.
Before you tell others how wrong they are maybe you should take a good look at yourself? Have they covered the definition of "essential nutrient" or gluconeogenesis in your class yet? I am not advocating no or even low carb. But it the interests of accuracy, you clearly are confused. We do not need carbs to live. We need glucose which can be synthesized via gluconeogenesis. It good to understand the subject before calling others wrong.
Yes our bodies have the ability to create glucose (gluco-neogenesis) but remember, that function is also a stressor on the body. It is an adaptation to the perception of starvation which going too low carb for too long induces. Our bodies can do it if they have too... but the question is, do they have to.
Agreed! And I am not in any way a proponent of low carb. However the condescension of one who is taking a "class" in telling someone who made a correct statement that they are "very wrong" I found pretty ironic. Why avoid carbs if you have no medical condition like diabetes or insulin resistance? I can't think of a single reason. There is no research that indicates that carb restriction is superior to other forms of diet for weight loss if calories and protein are held constant. Just one macro to be managed and not even the highest priority one, though that would be hard to believe based on the attention carbs get around here!0 -
NO CARBS ARE NOT BAD!
Eating too many carbs is bad!
Eating more calories than you expend is going to make you gain weight!
Carbs are NEEDED for energy.
They are in fruit and veggies!
Don't be afraid of carbs!0
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