Sugar is scary..

hookilau

Your brain can fuel itself just fine on ketones, it doesn't need sugar. But what happens if we don't keep them to once in a while and instead have them daily but in moderation and make it fit into our daily numbers?

:noway: uhh, I trust you have heard of ketoacidosis?

It's ketosis - not the same thing as ketoacidosis. Ketoacidosis is dangerous - ketosis is not.

Disagree - how do you think a state of ketoacidosis occurs? Its from the body being forced to survive off ketones. Ketosis is the body's emergency back up plan so the brain doesn't starve due to the blood brain barrier during times when glucose is scarce. I've seen many an animal deteriorate from ketosis into ketoacidosis due to an unobserved prolonged state of ketogenesis.

:noway: T2D here...in a constant state of ketosis for the last 6 months (give or take a few weeks, learning curves being what they are and all).

Love4ThatCat

Truth don't lie, no matter how old it is....

Cindyinpg

Truth don't lie, no matter how old it is....

I assume you are referring to Sugar Blues
I have not read the book but:

From Wikipedia:

The book's central argument is that consumption of refined sugar is unnatural and damaging to human health, causing major differences in physical and mental well-being. Dufty even goes so far as to suggest that eliminating refined sugar from the diet of those institutionalized for mental illness could be an effective treatment for some. The sugar industry is criticized for misrepresenting the health and safety data of its products..
Censorship analyst Heather Hendershot and librarian historian Mark Pendergrast have criticized the book for comparing sugar to drugs and suggesting its role in a variety of illnesses including bubonic plague.

That does not sound very truthful to me. :noway:

mike_ny

Excess sugar beyond what your body burns is bad. If you burn it, it's gone. It's what doesn't get burned that's the problem. Too much in your bloodstream can cause problems and the excess ends up getting stored as fat.

Just keep your sugar intake within your calorie limits and eat a balanced diet and you'll be fine.

kellyskitties

Excess sugar beyond what your body burns is bad. If you burn it, it's gone. It's what doesn't get burned that's the problem. Too much in your bloodstream can cause problems and the excess ends up getting stored as fat.

Just keep your sugar intake within your calorie limits and eat a balanced diet and you'll be fine.

THIS!

I do make exceptions for folks with metabolic issues like diabetics/PCOS - but this for the rest of us! YES!

VetGirl13

Your brain can fuel itself just fine on ketones, it doesn't need sugar. But what happens if we don't keep them to once in a while and instead have them daily but in moderation and make it fit into our daily numbers?

:noway: uhh, I trust you have heard of ketoacidosis?

It's ketosis - not the same thing as ketoacidosis. Ketoacidosis is dangerous - ketosis is not.

Disagree - how do you think a state of ketoacidosis occurs? Its from the body being forced to survive off ketones. Ketosis is the body's emergency back up plan so the brain doesn't starve due to the blood brain barrier during times when glucose is scarce. I've seen many an animal deteriorate from ketosis into ketoacidosis due to an unobserved prolonged state of ketogenesis.

"Ketosis Vs. Ketoacidosis

If you follow a diet that limits your daily carb intake below 50 g a day, it will promote ketosis. Ketosis simply means that your body mostly utilizes fat and ketones, which correspond to a byproduct of fat burning, as its principal source of energy instead of utilizing sugar derived from carbohydrates. Ketosis is not dangerous and allows your body to better control your blood sugar levels and diabetes, while losing weight if you need to. Ketoacidosis, on the other hand, only happens in diabetics treated with insulin injection when their blood sugar levels gets totally out of control. A diabetic in ketoacidosis has blood ketone levels more than 10 times higher the levels seen in ketosis. Ketoacidosis is a serious condition that requires immediate medical attention."

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/495714-atkins-and-diabetic-ketosis/#ixzz2gyDBRwQV

ketoacidosis requires a saturation of ketones - not very likely to occur. I've taken care of 1000's of patients - and never seen a state of ketoacidosis without the presence of hyperglycemia. I wouldn't declare it impossible to achieve on low carb diet - but unlikely. Still, ketosis and ketoacisosis remain separate things - although possibly related.

http://www.themedicalbiochemistrypage.org/diabetic-ketoacidosis.php

Right you are, thank you. I just thought it was a tad reckless outright stating that the brain will be just fine with just ketones, where as it is definatedly true that an underlying pathology is normally required before it goes into crisis times.

Thanks again - time to leave this thread alone ;-)

ndj1979

First, fat was the enemy. Now, it is sugar. Next, it will be the proteins, then it will be water.

don't forget about carbs...