diet sadness
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All these smug peoplegoing on about how they don't experience this should just go away and stop rubbing it in. It is like someone saying to me 'I have terrible insomnia, it is a nightmare' and me saying 'Oh well, as it happens, I don't get that at all... I sleep soundly and easily for 8 hours every night... you should be like me, then you'd not be an insomniac' the skip away smugly.
This is really not helpful or contributing anything. Perhaps you should fuel your negativity into a person blog.
OP, you CAN have what you want! You had your piece, and so many people feel sad because they cut everything out. It's great you're practicing moderation. If you feel legitimately sad about portions, it could help to talk to someone. Otherwise, try making room in your day to have more than one slice.0 -
I am not rude, little or a hater. I just hate when people write about problems they are having and people come in all smug just to say they don't experience it, like they so perfect. I think that is the real rudeness! But whatever, since you aren't reading this.
I am reading this. No one is being rude at all except for you :frown:0 -
Too much smug for my liking. People who restrict portion control don't always manage to restrict their greasetastic food choices.0
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I disagree. I am not a rude person. I just think we should acknoweldge how people feel without dismissing it, or revelling in the fact that we personally may not experience the same thing.0
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I am not rude, little or a hater. I just hate when people write about problems they are having and people come in all smug just to say they don't experience it, like they so perfect. I think that is the real rudeness! But whatever, since you aren't reading this.
I am reading this. No one is being rude at all except for you :frown:
???? You just called somebody a 'rude little hater'. Which REALLY isn't especially polite. Just sayin...0 -
Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.0 -
Did this topic make anyone else want banana bread?0
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Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.
This is getting ridiculous. Why did the person who you say DID understand the question say she DIDN'T understand the question in the first place?
Yours, genuinely confused,
Hildy, Liverpool
PS I have never been out of the healthy BMI range (very ,VERY close either end but not quite) and yes I have always had to restrict myself and yes I do envy my friends who just go for it every. single. meal. And they complain about how easy it is for me to be slim. There's a payoff to everything. As my dear old Nan used to say: 'You can't have the penny and the bun'.0 -
I totally get it. I miss being able to just go and eat whatever I want. There are things I love that I haven't had in ages, just because I can't realistically fit them in my daily calories (like cheesecake, although those Trader Joe's cheesecake wedges are helping with that craving). To be fair, it's been harder and harder though. It was much easier when I started. Now I'm getting close to maintenance but when I get there, I'll pretty much maintain at what I'm eating right now, so it's not like you can really tell yourself that it will be better once you're at maintenance, lol.
But obviously the results are a great trade off. I passed on cupcakes at a birthday party yesterday, and it was hard, but really, I don't know about you but I never regret not eating something.0 -
Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.
This is getting ridiculous. Why did the person who you say DID understand the question say she DIDN'T understand the question in the first place?
Yours, genuinely confused,
Hildy, Liverpool
exactly. Sorry if i overeacted, but come on, this person wasn't sayng'hey i used to experience that but now i found a way to overcome it, which i will tell you...'. They were saying 'Huuuh? I don't even begin to understand about this 'wanting to eat more than is good for you' thing you speak of.' If they don't understand the issue, then their contribution don't help.It seemed like only a boast to me. But sorry if I overeacted, if is hard to convey sentiment online sometimes, so maybe we both picked each other up wrong.0 -
I feel exactly the same as the OP - and I've just had an epiphany - I used to feel that food was my best friend - always there if I was sad or happy now I feel that it is my worst enemy (and always has been really). I know I have issues with food and find it hard to control binges and to eat properly (and I do get that this is my fault, not the foods). Some people find it easier to cope with controlling portion sizes I don't. I find it hard and in a silly way mourn the way I used to be - eating what I wanted, when I wanted (and often large quantities of it). I have also recently realised that i don't think I'll ever be able to relax about food, I'm always going to have to 'keep an eye' on myself. I really hope one day that things change, I've taken steps to improve, I've lost some weight (still a long way to go) but I want to be able to have one biscuit/cookie or chocolate and be happy that I'm not going back for one handful.
I want to be one of the people saying they are happy because they can have what they want - just in moderation, that losing weight makes them feel happier than the food and that nothing tastes as good as skinny feels - I'm really not there yet, and sometimes doubt I ever will be.
But I can hope
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Ahhh. I get it. Good comprehension Joselo.
And don't worry. Overreacting is the norm on the forum, rather than the exception.
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Eat what you want... Just in a more responsible way.
What was it that silly cross-eyed model said? "Nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels"? She was completely wrong. Nothing tastes as good as pizza, and banana bread, and other goodies in moderation feels.
If you ate the whole thing, you would've made yourself sick.0 -
There will always be a point where you have to draw the line, and choose not to eat something you want, regardless of approach (aside from dirty bulking). Have to desire and value the results more than the food. Good luck.0
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Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.
This is getting ridiculous. Why did the person who you say DID understand the question say she DIDN'T understand the question in the first place?
Yours, genuinely confused,
Hildy, Liverpool
exactly. Sorry if i overeacted, but come on, this person wasn't sayng'hey i used to experience that but now i found a way to overcome it, which i will tell you...'. They were saying 'Huuuh? I don't even begin to understand about this 'wanting to eat more than is good for you' thing you speak of.' If they don't understand the issue, then their contribution don't help.It seemed like only a boast to me. But sorry if I overeacted, if is hard to convey sentiment online sometimes, so maybe we both picked each other up wrong.
Here is what she said: "What I meant was - why do you feel that you are giving everything up - when it is obvious that you understand and allow yourself to still have some of these things? You are right to just have smaller portions. I totally get how sometimes you just want to eat the whole thing. But you're not really denying yourself from having these things ever again - if you are actually letting yourself just have smaller portions.
self-control and moderation are beautiful and Im glad you are on the right track "
Sorry you're both confused. I understood the point she was making and I agree with it. My contribution and her contribution to the thread were meant to share what works and to congratulate her on getting over the hurtle of the mindless eating that some of us do. I don't come into threads to just attack other posters.0 -
I totally understand what you’re saying. I’m all for IIFYM, but sometimes you want MORE and it just doesn’t fit after having one normal sized portion. It can be sad, it can be frustrating, but you have think what would be worse. Not eating or eating and feeling bad about it later? Most likely the later. Especially since it’ll be there tomorrow
I might suggest a skinnier version of banana bread? I’m not about eating skinny foods per say since I eat whatever I want in moderation, but skinny taste has a kicking banana bread that I make a lot (as in usually once a week).0 -
Yep.
Have to ditch the turkey sammich I was going to eat for supper because the turkey has too much sodium in it.
It's never the calories I can't fit in, it's the f***ing sodium. HBP sucks.0 -
No, this has not happened to me.0
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Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.
This is getting ridiculous. Why did the person who you say DID understand the question say she DIDN'T understand the question in the first place?
Yours, genuinely confused,
Hildy, Liverpool
exactly. Sorry if i overeacted, but come on, this person wasn't sayng'hey i used to experience that but now i found a way to overcome it, which i will tell you...'. They were saying 'Huuuh? I don't even begin to understand about this 'wanting to eat more than is good for you' thing you speak of.' If they don't understand the issue, then their contribution don't help.It seemed like only a boast to me. But sorry if I overeacted, if is hard to convey sentiment online sometimes, so maybe we both picked each other up wrong.
Here is what she said: "What I meant was - why do you feel that you are giving everything up - when it is obvious that you understand and allow yourself to still have some of these things? You are right to just have smaller portions. I totally get how sometimes you just want to eat the whole thing. But you're not really denying yourself from having these things ever again - if you are actually letting yourself just have smaller portions.
self-control and moderation are beautiful and Im glad you are on the right track "
Sorry you're both confused. I understood the point she was making and I agree with it. My contribution and her contribution to the thread were meant to share what works and to congratulate her on getting over the hurtle of the mindless eating that some of us do. I don't come into threads to just attack other posters.
OK.... so was the 'I don't understand the question' comment not a boast, or a put-down, do you think? Why didn't she say the second, reasonable thing first. The first thing was just meaningless... or at least open to interpretation. I'm English, is that what Americans say to be snarky: 'I don't understand the question'. If you said that here, you'd get somebody politely explaining it to you at great length. We are a literal people.
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You can eat whatever you want, just don't eat too much of it.
The fact you want to eat an entire banana bread loaf is a psychological problem, not a hunger problem, or a diet diversity problem. You've decided you want to binge eat, indulge in a treat in a self-gratuitous manner. Address why you want to do that, overcome it, progress.0 -
It's not that you "can't" eat that way any more... You never could in the first place. Look where it got you.0
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@Hildy - I was confused, and then reread and i expanded on my answer, congratulating the OP because I really think she IS doing the right thing- while that lady was yelling at me for being wholesome, but i think she was being sarcastic and rude, then you came in here and told me to stop being so rude, too.
so basically - good job OP -thumbs up- you're on the right path and I'm glad that you are listening to your own instincts instead of fixating on the actions or habits of other people! You know yourself better than anyone. You can handle it
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We are all different but I'm never sad about not being able to eat whatever I want in whatever amounts I want to eat it. Being fat made me sad.Does it ever make you SAD that you can't eat whatever you want???0 -
Your contribution isn't needed then. Whoopydoo for you that you don't experience this, aren't you wholesome an everything.i dont understand the question
That's a little harsh. Everyone on this site has had issues with food at one time or another. The ones you are directing your comment at, are the people who have found a way to have treats, but not binge on them. That's a skill that everyone must learn to lose the weight and KEEP it off. We have ALL experienced this and more.
The OP has obviously learned that and is in the process of working through the feeling she has about not being able to have the whole loaf of banana bread. Good for her. She may be sad now, but the future healthy her is cheering her on every minute of every day.
This is getting ridiculous. Why did the person who you say DID understand the question say she DIDN'T understand the question in the first place?
Yours, genuinely confused,
Hildy, Liverpool
exactly. Sorry if i overeacted, but come on, this person wasn't sayng'hey i used to experience that but now i found a way to overcome it, which i will tell you...'. They were saying 'Huuuh? I don't even begin to understand about this 'wanting to eat more than is good for you' thing you speak of.' If they don't understand the issue, then their contribution don't help.It seemed like only a boast to me. But sorry if I overeacted, if is hard to convey sentiment online sometimes, so maybe we both picked each other up wrong.
Here is what she said: "What I meant was - why do you feel that you are giving everything up - when it is obvious that you understand and allow yourself to still have some of these things? You are right to just have smaller portions. I totally get how sometimes you just want to eat the whole thing. But you're not really denying yourself from having these things ever again - if you are actually letting yourself just have smaller portions.
self-control and moderation are beautiful and Im glad you are on the right track "
Sorry you're both confused. I understood the point she was making and I agree with it. My contribution and her contribution to the thread were meant to share what works and to congratulate her on getting over the hurtle of the mindless eating that some of us do. I don't come into threads to just attack other posters.
OK.... so was the 'I don't understand the question' comment not a boast, or a put-down, do you think?
Back to confused now :sad:
Sometimes, you will just be confused in this life. Maybe her first comment was because she didn't understand the question. She then went on the clarify. Out - this conversation is not adding to the discussion.0 -
You are not alone. I had a coworker who underwent gastric stapling in order to lose weight. She did lose weight and was very happy with that, but it was 8-9 months before she was allowed to eat "real" food, and, obviously, even when she could eat real food, it would never be the way it was before she had surgery. There will be a period of grieving for the "Old Way." I asked my coworker how this fetl to her. She said that, indeed there was a mourning period of a (forced, intentional) lost lifestyle. I confront that on a daily basis and I wonder when I will be able to adopt the beneficial habits and forget about yummy stuff. It is sad that we have to discard the practice of eating just because it tastes good and just for the sake of tasting. The sensory input we get from food is what many of us get caught up in and don't stop because we like that more than the fact that food is supposed to be sustanence more than a source of pleasure. It needs to be pleasurable for us to want to eat to sustain ourselves, but we need to find other ways to stimulate our senses. I know it's difficult. I struggle with it, too.0
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Maybe her first comment was because she didn't understand the question. She then went on the clarify.
That makes NO sense. 'I do understand' does not clarify 'I don't understand'. It just confuses us stupid people and that's not good!
Or perhaps she had a mid-thread Damascean moment of clarity. Highly irregular....0 -
You are not alone. I had a coworker who underwent gastric stapling in order to lose weight. She did lose weight and was very happy with that, but it was 8-9 months before she was allowed to eat "real" food, and, obviously, even when she could eat real food, it would never be the way it was before she had surgery. There will be a period of grieving for the "Old Way." I asked my coworker how this fetl to her. She said that, indeed there was a mourning period of a (forced, intentional) lost lifestyle. I confront that on a daily basis and I wonder when I will be able to adopt the beneficial habits and forget about yummy stuff. It is sad that we have to discard the practice of eating just because it tastes good and just for the sake of tasting. The sensory input we get from food is what many of us get caught up in and don't stop because we like that more than the fact that food is supposed to be sustanence more than a source of pleasure. It needs to be pleasurable for us to want to eat to sustain ourselves, but we need to find other ways to stimulate our senses. I know it's difficult. I struggle with it, too.
This is one of my main reasons why i'd not consider gastric surgery, to be honest0 -
Maybe her first comment was because she didn't understand the question. She then went on the clarify.
That makes NO sense. 'I do understand' does not clarify 'I don't understand'. It just confuses us stupid people and that's not good!
Or perhaps she had a mid-thread Damascean moment of clarity. Highly irregular....
No, I said I didnt understand because I thought she was saying she cant have these things at all anymore, but she was eating them, then I realized it was just the portion sizes she was getting accustomed to, so i came back to tell her good....
you know what - who cares, you cant win for losing on here.
Good job OP. Sorry for those who want to derail your thread by trying to find conflict anywhere they can. I wish you all the best.0 -
I totally get what you mean, OP. I sit here right now as my growing teenage son is munching on microwave popcorn, the smell wafting right over to me. My tummy is rumbling. I feel sad and grumpy, and I want to be rude to him, and I just hate that I feel this way.
So just now, I tried filling my senses up with some deep smelling. My son kind of looked at me funny just now as I leaned toward him with nostrils flaring. But whatever.
And now I'm going to go get a drink of water, because I'm thirsty after sniffing all that salty buttery popcorn. Just kidding. I'm going to go drink because water is all I get this late in the evening.
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My son bought some Costco Muffins the other day - they're over 600 calories for one muffin. That last delicious yummy poppy seed muffin is mocking me today - eat me! Eat me. Makes me so sad I can't. I did have 1/4 of one the other day and 1/8 of a blueberry today - but it's just not the same as gobbling up that whole (or even half) tasty muffin.0
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