Rude and Unsupportive Posts.
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Nutella PIE? Is that a real thing? I want that thing!
(though I made 'mac and cheese' with spaghetti squash last week [and it was delicious])
I want that mac and cheese recipe! Take a jar of Nutella, add 4 eggs, blend and put in a pie shell, or so I read!0 -
Again with the drama.... so much DRAMA on this forum... *scary background music* 'BEWARE The Dangers Of Juicing!'.
What's the worst that could happen - the lid falls off the juicer and the kitchen is pebbledashed with blueberries? :laugh:
Oh, I see. So the actual dangers are a joke to you.
Got it.
There are ACTUAL dangers from juicing? *strokes beard* *raises eyebrow* Tell me more...
Yes, there are actual dangers.
"Juicing" involves extremely low calorie intake, and virtually zero protein and fat intake. It's incredibly bad for the body. It's starvation.
Your cavalier, mocking attitude towards eating disorders is disgusting.0 -
What's funny is this thread isn't even about juicing/detoxing. It was just used as an example. I love it when people don't take the time to read the entire thread and feel they are an expert on what is being talked about.
I've read every post on this thread, and mentioned nothing specific.
I wasn't saying you didn't. I agree with what you said. I was talking about the one you quoted.
ETA: Sorry I should have differentiated before.0 -
I saw ketones and or raspberry referenced; bumping....0
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Again with the drama.... so much DRAMA on this forum... *scary background music* 'BEWARE The Dangers Of Juicing!'.
What's the worst that could happen - the lid falls off the juicer and the kitchen is pebbledashed with blueberries? :laugh:
Oh, I see. So the actual dangers are a joke to you.
Got it.
There are ACTUAL dangers from juicing? *strokes beard* *raises eyebrow* Tell me more...
Yes, there are actual dangers.
"Juicing" involves extremely low calorie intake, and virtually zero protein and fat intake. It's incredibly bad for the body. It's starvation.
Your cavalier, mocking attitude towards eating disorders is disgusting.
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Some people will just argue for the sake of arguing, especially those who are uneducated in a topic. ** before I get hate mail I just want to clarify, I said in a topic as in a specific topic, not in general **0
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Everyone has to find out for themselves. There are those that may agree with you and there are those who will not agree! It goes with the territory. I try to be supportive of everyone,
But I mat not agree with what people say. We are all individuals with our own minds!! Don't take it personal0 -
There are ACTUAL dangers from juicing? *strokes beard* *raises eyebrow* Tell me more...
...sigh... in spite of the fact that I'm sure you already know this:
Lack of fat in diet
Lack of protein in diet
Lack of fiber in diet
How is starving the body anything BUT dangerous? C'mon!
(apologies, this is not the thread for this)
*eta* That it's one thing to supplement your diet with fresh juices, it's another entirely to make juice your entire diet. That's just asking for trouble.0 -
Laughing at a person and laughing at ideas are not the same thing. The problem is you fail to see the difference.
You clearly don't know what bullying is.
It's a site full of human beings, some of whom possess a sense of humor.
And there's that word again ....By the title, I thought you were talking about how someone is nice enough to post a recipe, then 10 people pick it apart and jump down their throat because it's not to their liking. Lots of trolls on this site...it's like being back in grade school.
Soeey, but if you post a recipe for pasta sauce poured over lettuce and call it lasagna, people are going to laugh at you.
This is a site where people are trying to lose weight. Why should you "laugh" at someone or "bully" someone because you don't like the recipe? That's being childish....move on. When I see a new recipe, I like to see if people have made it as well and hear their honest opinion, not some bs and grade school humor. This site is to help people lose weight, I don't want a recipe for a nutella pie or full fat lasagna.
People who bully always think they are funny, being humorous is something altogether different.
If you "laugh" at someone and basically call them a dork (in so many words) how is that humorous?
If I say something stupid in front of a friend or family member, I'm going to get called out. It happens. I have this odd ability to laugh along with that person when I realize how stupid what I said was. This place is no different. Just because people have sticks up their rear ends doesn't make something less funny.
I hear what your saying, but the women who posted a recipe for "cauliflower breadsticks" did not have a stick up her rear and no one needed to call her out. She was simply posting a recipe, (as an example) which was creative and could be diet friendly. But instead all she got was flack by a bunch of whiny crybabies. If they wanted to be funny, make it humorous, not derogatory. I like a good laugh too.0 -
There are ACTUAL dangers from juicing? *strokes beard* *raises eyebrow* Tell me more...
...sigh... in spite of the fact that I'm sure you already know this:
Lack of fat in diet
Lack of protein in diet
Lack of fiber in diet
How is starving the body anything BUT dangerous? C'mon!
(apologies, this is not the thread for this)
High five.
You brought logic to the table. I think it'll be lost on someone.0 -
Laughing at a person and laughing at ideas are not the same thing. The problem is you fail to see the difference.
You clearly don't know what bullying is.
It's a site full of human beings, some of whom possess a sense of humor.
And there's that word again ....By the title, I thought you were talking about how someone is nice enough to post a recipe, then 10 people pick it apart and jump down their throat because it's not to their liking. Lots of trolls on this site...it's like being back in grade school.
Soeey, but if you post a recipe for pasta sauce poured over lettuce and call it lasagna, people are going to laugh at you.
This is a site where people are trying to lose weight. Why should you "laugh" at someone or "bully" someone because you don't like the recipe? That's being childish....move on. When I see a new recipe, I like to see if people have made it as well and hear their honest opinion, not some bs and grade school humor. This site is to help people lose weight, I don't want a recipe for a nutella pie or full fat lasagna.
People who bully always think they are funny, being humorous is something altogether different.
If you "laugh" at someone and basically call them a dork (in so many words) how is that humorous?
If I say something stupid in front of a friend or family member, I'm going to get called out. It happens. I have this odd ability to laugh along with that person when I realize how stupid what I said was. This place is no different. Just because people have sticks up their rear ends doesn't make something less funny.
I hear what your saying, but the women who posted a recipe for "cauliflower breadsticks" did not have a stick up her rear and no one needed to call her out. She was simply posting a recipe, (as an example) which was creative and could be diet friendly. But instead all she got was flack by a bunch of whiny crybabies. If they wanted to be funny, make it humorous, not derogatory. I like a good laugh too.
I didn't see that particular post, so I can't comment on what happened in it. It's possible it was as you say, but I do tend to see people say something was said that was never said and then call people mean and bullies over it. It happens a LOT around here.
What I will point out is the cauliflower thing is a bit of a running joke because what started as replacing mashed potatoes has turned into replacing EVERYTHING with cauliflower.0 -
If you suggest replacing some food with a cauliflower substitute, some people will laugh at you.
You can either whine and cry at that point, or you can be a big boy/girl and ignore those people.0 -
How is starving the body anything BUT dangerous? C'mon!
Quel horreur!
It's like something from a bad movie script. Or something from a good movie script - but with the line delivered by Keanu Reeves.0 -
If you suggest replacing some food with a cauliflower substitute, some people will laugh at you.
You can either whine and cry at that point, or you can be a big boy/girl and ignore those people.
Or a brownie recipe with applesauce as one of the ingredients. Ick...I'll take my 225 calorie Betty Crocker one and just budget my calories for the day. Geez! :laugh:0 -
Laughing at a person and laughing at ideas are not the same thing. The problem is you fail to see the difference.
You clearly don't know what bullying is.
It's a site full of human beings, some of whom possess a sense of humor.
And there's that word again ....By the title, I thought you were talking about how someone is nice enough to post a recipe, then 10 people pick it apart and jump down their throat because it's not to their liking. Lots of trolls on this site...it's like being back in grade school.
Soeey, but if you post a recipe for pasta sauce poured over lettuce and call it lasagna, people are going to laugh at you.
This is a site where people are trying to lose weight. Why should you "laugh" at someone or "bully" someone because you don't like the recipe? That's being childish....move on. When I see a new recipe, I like to see if people have made it as well and hear their honest opinion, not some bs and grade school humor. This site is to help people lose weight, I don't want a recipe for a nutella pie or full fat lasagna.
People who bully always think they are funny, being humorous is something altogether different.
If you "laugh" at someone and basically call them a dork (in so many words) how is that humorous?
If I say something stupid in front of a friend or family member, I'm going to get called out. It happens. I have this odd ability to laugh along with that person when I realize how stupid what I said was. This place is no different. Just because people have sticks up their rear ends doesn't make something less funny.
I hear what your saying, but the women who posted a recipe for "cauliflower breadsticks" did not have a stick up her rear and no one needed to call her out. She was simply posting a recipe, (as an example) which was creative and could be diet friendly. But instead all she got was flack by a bunch of whiny crybabies. If they wanted to be funny, make it humorous, not derogatory. I like a good laugh too.
I didn't see that particular post, so I can't comment on what happened in it. It's possible it was as you say, but I do tend to see people say something was said that was never said and then call people mean and bullies over it. It happens a LOT around here.
What I will point out is the cauliflower thing is a bit of a running joke because what started as replacing mashed potatoes has turned into replacing EVERYTHING with cauliflower.
I just read that thread, and no one was bullying or being derogatory. Just the usual messing around when cauliflower recipes pop up on this site. We should all calm down and watch a Rick Astley video together (sorry couldn't help myself).
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How is starving the body anything BUT dangerous? C'mon!
Quel horreur!
It's like something from a bad movie script. Or something from a good movie script - but with the line delivered by Keanu Reeves.
Pretty funny, right Hildy? You know this is how many eating disorders start, right? Crazy diet plans like juicing?0 -
I'm sorry to hear that they are attacking you. I tend to put aside those posts that don't support me in what I'm trying to do. Sure, there will always be someone who doesn't agree with my diet or my choices, but they are mine. The only advice I can give is to pick and choose your "friends" carefully, and if you don't want to hear the negative, be sure to post that as well.0
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Millions of people believe in homeopathy. Says it all really. Never underestimate the stupidity of people.0
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bump for gifs and general silliness0
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I've heard people say things like "i'm doing a juice cleanse to rid me of the toxins!" Then 5 minutes later say "also I'm eliminating sugar from my diet" That's probably my favorite. :huh:0
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The OP? No one's attacking him.I'm sorry to hear that they are attacking you. I tend to put aside those posts that don't support me in what I'm trying to do. Sure, there will always be someone who doesn't agree with my diet or my choices, but they are mine. The only advice I can give is to pick and choose your "friends" carefully, and if you don't want to hear the negative, be sure to post that as well.0 -
What I often see is someone posts anything about cauliflower or changing a recipe, with ANYTHING, not just cauliflower, and then reply after reply after reply after reply mocks them. And then those same folks defend themselves in other threads and say they are "educating".
Laughing at a person and laughing at ideas are not the same thing. The problem is you fail to see the difference.
You clearly don't know what bullying is.
It's a site full of human beings, some of whom possess a sense of humor.
And there's that word again ....By the title, I thought you were talking about how someone is nice enough to post a recipe, then 10 people pick it apart and jump down their throat because it's not to their liking. Lots of trolls on this site...it's like being back in grade school.
Soeey, but if you post a recipe for pasta sauce poured over lettuce and call it lasagna, people are going to laugh at you.
This is a site where people are trying to lose weight. Why should you "laugh" at someone or "bully" someone because you don't like the recipe? That's being childish....move on. When I see a new recipe, I like to see if people have made it as well and hear their honest opinion, not some bs and grade school humor. This site is to help people lose weight, I don't want a recipe for a nutella pie or full fat lasagna.
People who bully always think they are funny, being humorous is something altogether different.
If you "laugh" at someone and basically call them a dork (in so many words) how is that humorous?
If I say something stupid in front of a friend or family member, I'm going to get called out. It happens. I have this odd ability to laugh along with that person when I realize how stupid what I said was. This place is no different. Just because people have sticks up their rear ends doesn't make something less funny.
I hear what your saying, but the women who posted a recipe for "cauliflower breadsticks" did not have a stick up her rear and no one needed to call her out. She was simply posting a recipe, (as an example) which was creative and could be diet friendly. But instead all she got was flack by a bunch of whiny crybabies. If they wanted to be funny, make it humorous, not derogatory. I like a good laugh too.
I didn't see that particular post, so I can't comment on what happened in it. It's possible it was as you say, but I do tend to see people say something was said that was never said and then call people mean and bullies over it. It happens a LOT around here.
What I will point out is the cauliflower thing is a bit of a running joke because what started as replacing mashed potatoes has turned into replacing EVERYTHING with cauliflower.
And, usually the cauliflower seeker isn't in on that "joke" and just feels like a whole board is mocking them.0 -
everyone has their own way of weight loss, and you may not agree, and no they may not be presenting true facts but they aren't going to quit posting about what they feel is right, neither are you so, why not be an adult agree to disagree or just not read their posts!! Problem solved
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This is inappropriate....Troll post.
it most certainly is not and your response is both inappropriate and inaccurate.
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This is inappropriate....Troll post.
it most certainly is not and your response is both inappropriate and inaccurate.
That is NOT a flattering picture. Just think of how proud her kids will be in 20 years!0 -
I haven't read his bio, so I wont speak more on that. I do know the official story changed from time to time.
just making a general comment. sorry for the confusion. had just read the "he was a smart man who made many stupid decisions" and it stuck in my head as I read the rest of the comments.
From what I've read the cancer returned after the liver transplant and that the survival rate then is quite low.... he did many "traditional treatments" and many alternative treatments.
Here's a bit more detailed info about it. The five-year survival rate is still quite low: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/isletcell/healthprofessionalSteve Jobs died for the same reason. he had a good prognosis because his cancer was caught very early, but he decided to try alternative cures for a few years before he came to his senses. by that time, it was too late.
I thought he tried both?
Either way, pancreatic cancer has something like a 2% survival rate after five years. I knew someone who had it, caught VERY early and was declared cured. It came back after a year and killed him within weeks. And he was very aggressive with his treatment.
Jobs probably would have died no matter what.
But breast cancer I think now has a 95% survival rate.
the article i linked said he had one of the rare forms that was likely to be curable, especially since they discovered it so early.
55% is quite a high survival rate, actually. And it can even be as high as 61% according to this cancer.org article. http://www.cancer.org/cancer/pancreaticcancer/detailedguide/pancreatic-cancer-survival-rates
He died. I'd say let's stop second guessing him now.
?? I think you have me confused with someone else.
Good luck to your friend!
Thanks for the well wishes Sabine. I said what I did, because according to the Forbes article, he did no treatment for 9 months! 'Alternative' methods and changing his diet could not have possibly been effective, and he himself came to realize it eventually. My saying that doesn't mean I am 'second guessing' his treatment. I am pointing out that he effectually did NOTHING about his cancer for 9 months. That's not smart.
Have you seen his commencement address? It's quite nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UF8uR6Z6KLc0 -
If you suggest replacing some food with a cauliflower substitute, some people will laugh at you.
You can either whine and cry at that point, or you can be a big boy/girl and ignore those people.
Or they could put on their big boy/girl pants and ignore the post that clearly they are not interested in. It's tiring to rifle through so much negativity. Maybe they could take the time to post something better.0 -
So much arguing over... people arguing.
Ah... only MFP!0 -
You have an interesting perspective on yourself.I am truly disappointed that so many MFP members are not being supportive of me (and others) in our efforts to prevent people from doing something stupid to themselves, like a starting a cleanse or detox.
Dramatic, much? Relax. I think it's a little patronising all this: 'We're saving you from yourselves', 'We're stopping you jumping off a cliff'. It belies a superior and arrogant attitude, imo, like people aren't capable of making their own decisions. Respect other people's choices, man.
If you feel the need to argue issues, join a debating society, study law, become politically active... or act as an advocate for someone who REALLY needs it?
Peace out. :glasses:
i mean this in the nicest possible way, but...
sometimes, you have to read the whole thread before responding in order to understand if the thread is really about what you think it's about.
this thread is not about whether i've been arguing with people (i haven't) and whether they've been ignoring my advice (they haven't) or even whether i care anymore if people starve themselves on cleanses and detoxes (i don't). that was all used to illustrate a larger point in my OP. this thread is about that larger point, which is the notion that bad ideas which are not met with universal applause is NOT equivalent to people being unsupportive. that conclusion (that it is) is flawed reasoning and it happens in here a lot.
if the person defending a bad idea has the right to demand unconditional "support" from members on here who are not paid to give support, then the people attacking the bad idea have every bit as much right to demand that same "support" as well.
Here's an oldie but a goodie
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1114757-do-sugarphobes-also-avoid-drinking-any-alcohol
To me you often come across as helpful (if someone wants to know what you believe to do what you believe). And you often come off as an arrogant know it all (who really, really really doesn't).
And other times your username is eponymous.
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If you suggest replacing some food with a cauliflower substitute, some people will laugh at you.
You can either whine and cry at that point, or you can be a big boy/girl and ignore those people.
Or they could put on their big boy/girl pants and ignore the post that clearly they are not interested in. It's tiring to rifle through so much negativity. Maybe they could take the time to post something better.
Well my way involves the person getting upset deciding not to be upset anymore.
Your way involves the person being upset sitting around wishing everyone else would change.
Guess which way is more likely to be effective.0
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