Keyboard Warriors
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I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
The mods delete your posts if you tell people to just stay fat.
Ask me how I know.
now I'm going to start saying just break up.... with the idea of ever being not fat. is that more positive and/or supportive?
I'm the last person anyone should ever ask about positive support. I don't even know how to apply those words to real life.
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I can't even answer questions about supportive bras. from MFP I have learned this is because I am "pear shaped." I believe I even used the correct type of fruit there.
Be careful too much fruit is no good for you. :laugh:0 -
Failure to plan on their part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
It's easy, track calorie intake, exercise, be patient. Consume less energy than you expend, your body burns the reserves. Now, what exactly are people needing help with again?0 -
I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
In the context of the last thread I was in, that was what the author was saying. The OP hadn't asked for advice, another member replied and attacked the way he was eating. The OP said he hadn't asked for his opinion and the member basically said he wouldn't keep the weight off and would fail. I think that's a crummy ****ing thing to say to someone on a health site who never asked for opinions.0 -
When you go to a doctor and ask for his advice and in return you start yelling at him and stay in denial, the doctor is bound to tell you that you are stupid and crazy.0
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Anyone?
Is it an 'either or', really? So people can EITHER have friendly, polite, encouraging replies OR honest feedback. They can't have both? Why?
A lot of people, myself included tend to be straight forward and honest...blunt if you will..it's not unfriendly...being honest and straight forward can often be perceived as mean or unfriendly. Ultimately I don't care...much of this stuff is in deed science and fact but too many people think they're special little snow flakes and that their opinions matter as much as those facts, and they don't.0 -
I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
In the context of the last thread I was in, that was what the author was saying. The OP hadn't asked for advice, another member replied and attacked the way he was eating. The OP said he hadn't asked for his opinion and the member basically said he wouldn't keep the weight off and would fail. I think that's a crummy ****ing thing to say to someone on a health site who never asked for opinions.
If you make a thread on a public forum...you are opening yourself to opinions, critiques, etc. If you didn't want opinions, then next time use the blog feature or stick to your friends feed where you can better moderate/delete responses that don't suit you.0 -
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Seriously. I came here for tacos and all I got was this silly ticker. I put a pokemon in it.
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OMG i looooooooooooove tacos! just sayin0 -
I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
The mods delete your posts if you tell people to just stay fat.
Ask me how I know.
now I'm going to start saying just break up.... with the idea of ever being not fat. is that more positive and/or supportive?
I'm the last person anyone should ever ask about positive support. I don't even know how to apply those words to real life.
:smokin:
I can't even answer questions about supportive bras. from MFP I have learned this is because I am "pear shaped." I believe I even used the correct type of fruit there.
I'm sure we can find someone who is willing to support your fruit.0 -
Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail.
My boss said that to me today. I didn't know I was supposed to be upset, so I made fun of him for his "originality". I should have read this earlier.0 -
I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
The mods delete your posts if you tell people to just stay fat.
Ask me how I know.
now I'm going to start saying just break up.... with the idea of ever being not fat. is that more positive and/or supportive?
I'm the last person anyone should ever ask about positive support. I don't even know how to apply those words to real life.
:smokin:
I can't even answer questions about supportive bras. from MFP I have learned this is because I am "pear shaped." I believe I even used the correct type of fruit there.
Hahaha. I always thoguht pear shaped applied to my general mentality pretty well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear-shapedThe third meaning is mostly limited to the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australasia. It describes a situation that went awry, perhaps horribly wrong. A failed bank robbery, for example, could be said to have "gone pear-shaped". The origin for this use of the term is in dispute. The OED cites its origin as within the Royal Air Force; as of 2003 the earliest citation there is a quote in the 1983 book Air War South Atlantic.[1] Others date it to the RAF in the 1940s, from pilots attempting to perform aerial manoeuvres such as loops. These are difficult to form perfectly, and are usually noticeably distorted—i.e., pear-shaped0 -
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
We? Can I gently remind you that you don't speak for me.0 -
Then why don'[t you say it in that thread instead of here, where it isn't relevant and you don't even know if anyone it is directed toward will actually read it?I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
In the context of the last thread I was in, that was what the author was saying. The OP hadn't asked for advice, another member replied and attacked the way he was eating. The OP said he hadn't asked for his opinion and the member basically said he wouldn't keep the weight off and would fail. I think that's a crummy ****ing thing to say to someone on a health site who never asked for opinions.0 -
That's me. 2 row on the left. <nods>0 -
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Anyone?
Is it an 'either or', really? So people can EITHER have friendly, polite, encouraging replies OR honest feedback. They can't have both? Why?
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When you go to a doctor and ask for his advice and in return you start yelling at him and stay in denial, the doctor is bound to tell you that you are stupid and crazy.
I think she just wrote "patient is non-compliant" on my chart .....0 -
I think I'm going to eat a cookie.0
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Anyone?
Is it an 'either or', really? So people can EITHER have friendly, polite, encouraging replies OR honest feedback. They can't have both? Why?
Usually, it's because when someone offers honest advice, or asks for more information, the OP will get defensive and attack, resulting in the person trying to help getting defensive and snarky, and it perpetuates until a thread like this, or a "Mean bullying" thread is generated. Those threads then generate a large number of parody threads, and then my head explodes because of the derp level.0 -
If people don't want honest feedback that could potentially be something less than purely motivational handholding, then they shouldn't ask for advice in a public forum.
Are 'honesty' and 'motivational handholding' mutually exclusive?
They are when the recipients claim they want honesty but really only want validation for some cockamamie plan and view all honesty (either tactful or blunt) as non-supportive, trolling or bullying.0 -
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one...0 -
. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
Y'know I have been wondering about this statement for a long time. I usually let it go, or get hung up on the "all here for the same reason" or bullying aspect of this statement that gets thrown around a lot.
Where does it ever say we need to support everybody who is here? I support the people on my FL. I offer advice on occasion on the forums. I try to be supportive of those who are making healthy choices, or that are earnestly seeking help and advice. I do not remember ever seeing anything in the TOS that stated that i was required to offer supposrt to every person who has an account on this site. There are some I just absolutely refuse to. I will not support the pro-ana folks. I will not support the folks who are being unhealthy on purpose, or those who just seek validation for unhealthy practices. I just refuse.0 -
Then why don'[t you say it in that thread instead of here, where it isn't relevant and you don't even know if anyone it is directed toward will actually read it?I just saw this and was kind of upset about it. Like I said in that thread, giving a different opinion can be done in different ways. Sarcastically saying to someone, "Have a nice trip. See you next fall" is purposely being immature and expecting that person to fail. If MFP's community is about support (and it is, or it should be), then maybe everyone should grow up a little.
It's not like we say things like "just stay fat"
In the context of the last thread I was in, that was what the author was saying. The OP hadn't asked for advice, another member replied and attacked the way he was eating. The OP said he hadn't asked for his opinion and the member basically said he wouldn't keep the weight off and would fail. I think that's a crummy ****ing thing to say to someone on a health site who never asked for opinions.
I did say it in that thread. I was just pointing out something I had noticed on the forums, that's all.0 -
I'm so sick of these sort of threads. Just log of if you don't like it here. This is the best site ever and there are very few on here that aren't here to honestly help others, not our fault if people don't like the truth.0
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If people don't want honest feedback that could potentially be something less than purely motivational handholding, then they shouldn't ask for advice in a public forum.
Are 'honesty' and 'motivational handholding' mutually exclusive?
They are when the recipients claim they want honesty but really only want validation for some cockamamie plan and view all honesty (either tactful or blunt) as non-supportive, trolling or bullying.
Truth is truth, it doesn't have to be 'the brutal truth'. My main concern is that this environment, for whatever reason, is not inclusive. That is not a good thing.0 -
is there cake here?0
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A day in the life of an MFP poster:
1) Post something wondering why you're not having the success expected.
2) Get responses saying that you need to open diary, weigh and measure food, etc.
3) Get bent out of shape and proclaim that you weren't asking about diet, that you strictly want exercise advice.
4) Get told that success is keyed in to eating less and monitoring what is consumed, can't outrun a bad diet, etc.
5) Get bent out of shape some more.
6) White knights and "mean people" threads to follow.
Rinse, repeat.0 -
Someone can't tell the difference between being "incorrect" and "lie."0
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So...how about when people are asking for help DON'T berate them or call them liars just because their food diary doesn't look like yours and they are doing things DIFFERENTLY.
>> OP uses uppercase (internet form of giving strong emphasis) to scold people for berating others.
definition of berate:
verb (used with object), be·rat·ed, be·rat·ing.
to scold; rebuke: He berated them in public.There are MANY ways to get the job done. If people are asking for help in SPECIFIC areas, don't leave comments berating their slow progress because they are doing it differently.
We are all here supposedly for the same reason. To be healthy.
>> OP criticizes others for making assumptions (that people are doing it the same way), while assuming we are all in it for the same reason.We don't know each person's history...or personal struggles/issues that can interfere with weight loss.
Just because TODAY you are more motivated and handling it...doesn't mean you are perfect either.
>> OP seems to think that by offering suggestions and guidance, those making the suggestions think they are perfect, motivated, AND handling it.
My comment:
Some people are kind and have valid points to consider - there's stuff to learn from them
Some people are blunt and have valid points to consider - there's stuff to learn from them
Some people are rude and have valid points to consider - there's stuff to learn from them
Some people are rude and sarcastic, with little value to add - there is still stuff to learn - even if it is how to be sarcastic, how NOT to be rude, or how to ignore the jerkfaces that you run in to from day to day0 -
You know what I do? In a contentious thread, I peek at people's profile and listen to the ones that have been most successful.0
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is there cake here?
No, but I'm about to go buy an ice cream cake. You want me to save you some?0
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